Mini 1537: ATTACK ON TITAN (Game Over!)

[BROseidon]

Ah, I misread.

The rest of the case stands, though.

[displaced]

Tracked nowhere does mean something and is worth some towncred based on how many scum are remaining but you are Dr Theory so you know this right?

The point about the comod is mainly you are using modmeta to fit your agenda when the mod in question probably didnt have any imput into the design of the game.

[GuyInFreezer]

VOTECOUNT 6.2

BROseidon (2)

: kthxbye, displaced

displaced (1)

: BROseidon

Not Voting (4)

: Rancid Broderick Drake

With 4 alive, it takes 3 to lynch and 2 to no-lynch.

Day 6 ends in (expired on 2014-03-05 20:00:00)

Mod Comments:

[displaced]

Wow guys, none of you know how time fucking works.

Like, holy shit.

My reads have like completely 180'd over the past few pages. Kagami's turbo-derp and pieguy's hyper-tunnel looks town relative to the shit Pie, Kaze, and Plum are pulling.

VOTE: Plum <- far better than this craptastic Pasch wagon now.

I mean there's a lot more but this has to be a clincher; simultaneously calls Pieguyn town and scum in the same sentence while changing gears onto Plum, who was in his top two town reads prior to this. Avoids the 'craptastic' Pasch wagon although he's had Pasch as a scumread of varying strength the whole while

So you can call this typo abuse but I can call it a scumslip. It's fine, it depends on your perspective. Personally I think it's a pretty standard liars tell.

Even calling it a typo is kinda stretchy tbqh

[Rancid Broderick Drake]

Hey sweet I'm confirmed town.

I'd vote BRO here, but muffin has asked me to wait til he wakes up(damn Aussies).

The jist of our argument is that muffin thinks pitoli might have accidentally flavor cleared BRO through the link and displaced is just the last scum. Meanwhile, I'm hinging more on the universal backup JoAT never being roleblocked. It's odd.

[displaced]

Yeah I dont think staking the game on whether the mod f'd up or not is particularly compelling.

[BROseidon]

Meanwhile, I'm hinging more on the universal backup JoAT never being roleblocked

Did anyone have abilities that failed night 2?

I'm thinking I may have been blocked, but Kaze's commute obfuscated it.

[displaced]

BRO explain why the mechanics of your role imply you and kthx arent cross aligned.

[displaced]

First order of business:

kthnx and BROseidon are town.

I've seen this type of role before. Multiple times. Yes, they're effectively masons, even if they don't have the ability to chat with one another. They're confirmed town.

[BROseidon]

BRO explain why the mechanics of your role imply you and kthx arent cross aligned.

Because it fucking sucks when your reward for catching scum is "oh look, you get punished."

And stop acting like the only reason I have to town read kthx is b/c of my role. I'm obviously not considering the entire thread in my town read of him as well

[displaced]

but the "punishment" isnt harsh at all

The reason you have to townread kthx is to ride this nonsense to the finishing line, obv.

Why did you claim your role was akin gto masons when it clearly isn't?

Why is scummastin conftowning you both before even the claim is clarified?

[displaced]

IN fact if you both are town, Im p sure scummastin reacts in an opposite kind of manner to the above quoted

[Kthxbye]

First order of business:

kthnx and BROseidon are town.

I've seen this type of role before. Multiple times. Yes, they're effectively masons, even if they don't have the ability to chat with one another. They're confirmed town.

Damn, I completely missed this...

IN fact if you both are town, Im p sure scummastin reacts in an opposite kind of manner to the above quoted

I have to agree with this. Scum isn't going to confirm 2 ppl they already know are town if it isnt going to benefit them. If both BRO and I are town and scum mastin knows this, he just made it so he couldnt push either of our lynches with that one post...no gain for him to do that unless 1 of us is a scum partner.

That means flavor was meant to throw me off and nothing more.

Sorry BRO, you had me fooled for a long while though.

[Kthxbye]

Actually, looking back at the full post, mastin calls damn near everyone town. He leaves 4 out saying null or scum...3 of which are conf town. So the question is does scum mastin call both his partners town or does he go 1 and 1?...hmmmmm

UNVOTE:

[BROseidon]

He did 1 and 1 this time. He probably was afraid of me+tammy+whoever else in this game knows his game well going through and lynching in his town reads if he flipped scum.

[displaced]

Actually, looking back at the full post, mastin calls damn near everyone town. He leaves 4 out saying null or scum...3 of which are conf town. So the question is does scum mastin call both his partners town or does he go 1 and 1?...hmmmmm

UNVOTE:

The rest of the post is peripheral, she says so herself. "first order of business". Given the garbled nature of the claim at this point in time and a refusal by you both to clarify, you think scumastin would conftown you both here if BRO wasnt a buddy? He even claims to have seen the role before despite it being up in the air at this point.

[BROseidon]

^He could have mistaken it for my/morph's roles in Touhou mini, since that was very recent at that point.

[displaced]

^He could have mistaken it for my/morph's roles in Touhou mini, since that was very recent at that point.

Why did you claim top secret mason-a-like there also?

[displaced]

...and anyway this just leads back to "why have scum allowed a town PR to live?" except now you are a confirmed town PR. Like that would ever actually happen

[displaced]

Also further digging reveals more...

Day two is mass claim; Pasch claims 1 shot neighbourizer that was interfered with, you claim unibackup -> JOAT, kthx claims "role Im not sure about how to use, or even if it has any value" Day three sees you claim a no visit result from a track on Kaze and kthx claiming he targeted RBD with his role which seems to be a postman role. RBD claims he got no message, which has to be true since he is now conftown, meaning the scum RB targeted kthx on this night.

At this point in the game your stance is to back the idea of Pasch being blocked N1 and kthx being blocked N2, since it provides a reason for you to have a N2 result. Now this is all fine and dandy if you swallow the idea scum would block a mystery role over a JOAT but it doesnt explain your actions the next night. I touched on this being a theoretical mistake earlier but now with the RB spec out so early and you buying into it, you have now cleared Kaze of being 2/3 of the scum team. His %chance of being scum is in single figures, making him an absolutely terrible choice for a vig shot.

Shooting at Kaze is a theory blunder of monumental proportion and one you would not make as town

[Kthxbye]

Yeah....displaced has me convinced.

VOTE: BRO

[BROseidon]

I touched on this being a theoretical mistake earlier but now with the RB spec out so early and you buying into it, you have now cleared Kaze of being 2/3 of the scum team. His %chance of being scum is in single figures, making him an absolutely terrible choice for a vig shot.

Shooting at Kaze is a theory blunder of monumental proportion and one you would not make as town

I honestly didn't think that part through and am upset about having made a blunder. You're right, I should have vigged you.

[Kthxbye]

Slow game is slow....zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

[Rancid Broderick Drake]

So dodge prods until I'm done with my analysis. You've already made up your mind. Pretend the game is over and do something else with your time.

[displaced]

and the rabbit hole goes deeper...

Given mastin flipped scum JOAT on day three, unless you think the JOAT had multiple roleblocks (which would be a stoopid assumption to make) then your track has exonerated kaze completely ... Even if you get a pass for the vigderp, you don't realize your error and participate in his quicklynch the next day.

So in summary for BRO to be town he has to have spazzed out and gone full retard, ignoring basic level role information and making glaring errors in his decisions for night actions. Given he feels the theory side of his game is strong enough to lecture others on the subject how likely is this really?

As an aside BRO town also requires mastin to have gone insane, not killing town PR's that he has ruled out as potential mislynches.

It's a standard scenario; the only explanation for BRO's actions is that he is scum (unless you believe he had his brain transplanted with a cauliflower) and it's pretty bad that this stuff wasnt pulled up on day four.