The Fall of Gondolin Mafia: Game Over (The Tale of Gondolin)

[Elscouta]

Was reading the ActionDan iso and I found this:

Wait shos if you voyeur ed ABR and got protective along with role blocker you probably just confirmed js

ActionDan is 100% town. Get off him.

[SpyreX]

Spyrex I said multiple times that I am willing to vote Esp. But if nobody is following, Tierce is the way to go.

No.

Its not like this is a 400 person game where its literally impossible to shift a wagon.

You vote Esp, its 2-3. If Tierce decides she wants to, you know, live she'll get on for selfish reasons at minimum.

Thats all it takes for a tie. Then the party really starts. Because at that point you bet your ass everyone. EVERYONE is committing or the rest of the game will be spent blind voting every spot not on one of those wagons.

I'd also like to, ONCE AGAIN, say that I've asked, and asked and asked for why is Esp town and I get nothing. No one bats a god damn eye at "lynch tierce for free lynch lollz" or anything else he's done.

I'm not saying build a case on Esp scum because

when people dont play the game its kinda hard to build cases.

[shos]

2 days for a lynch. I need to reread from page 80. since we're even, if tierce is the leading lynch come deadline, I'm not hammering.

[PeregrineV]

I have shown proper analysis. Guess you're too busy in your cherry picking skimming fields of happiness.

"In addition to all this other bullshit, here's a list of people Tierce has suspected that does not have any sort of analysis from my end but I'm trying to pass off as relevant."

So I ask

you

for analysis on

your scumreads and townreads

, and you call

me

out for not providing analysis on

your list of scumreads and townreads

?



Um, that response is no response at all. It's some sort of odd deflection.

[PeregrineV]

And make it not based on how someone reads you.

Can I once again bring up ActionDan not making any effort to show differences between this and our last CONCURRENT game together, where I was Town? All this "I usually read Tierce as Town when she's Town" but not a word about that game, we wouldn't want to delve into meta after bringing it up. Let's just try to make sure we can push the alternative mislynch instead, even when D1 is really bloody good evidence that I'm not scum and certainly not with Espeonage.

:sigh:

And how does day1 point to you "not being scum and certainly not with Espeonage."?

[PeregrineV]

Pushing a disingenuous case under convenient circumstances is not Town, attempting to gather gullible voters specifically is not Town, and I have shown that is not my kill pattern. Too bad you can't actually be bothered to connect your reads to the game you're playing.

This part kills me.

The circumstances such as day start? 1843

And the case based on similarity of thought with scum (claim requesting, the result of which derailed the lynch of scum rolecop, and which you NEVER followed up on), and how much it looks like you bussed both Jacob and Shadow?

Tierce votes:

Day1

TheIrishPope- 14 pages & 17 posts
Jacob- 14 pages & 29 posts

Day2

CES- 10 pages & 18 posts
ABR- 10 pages & 18 posts
SirDani- 1 page & 6 posts

Day3

ABR- 1 page & 1 post
(Shadow posts 1464 and votes Jacob)
Shadow- 3 pages & 13 posts
(And I want to note that your Shadow vote was 12 minutes prior to your Shadow "case" of quoting a single Majiffy post, and then, 6 minutes later, giving a select spoilered ISO of Shadow).

Given how Majiffy gave a link-laced case IN-THREAD for Shadow-scum (1146), he could just as easily protected (investigated) you:

Majiffy's correlation of strong players:Townreads is terrible and would lynch too.

I must have you as scum, then, because there's no way you could be a strong player with this shit logic.

Day4

ABR- 8 pages & 25 posts

Yeah, now that I think about it-
Does Majiffy think
"I will kill myself on my scumread, and hope town lynches it the next day!"

or does he think

"I'll protect town-Tierce who stupid scum might try to kill and then the next day lynch scum-Shadow."

Don't really see Majiffy as the whole suicide-type. Do you?

[PeregrineV]

Was reading the ActionDan iso and I found this:

Wait shos if you voyeur ed ABR and got protective along with role blocker you probably just confirmed js

ActionDan is 100% town. Get off him.

Talk me through the HOW this makes ActionDan town.

[Espeonage]

My entire list of people I'm not ok with lynching is shos, CES, Sirdan, PereV. Everyone I will happily vote for given a wagon.

[PeregrineV]

My entire list of people I'm not ok with lynching is shos, CES, Sirdan, PereV. Everyone I will happily vote for given a wagon.

Why CES?

[Plum]

Morgoth had assembled all his most cunning smiths and sorcerers, and of iron and flame they wrought a host of monsters such as have only at that time been seen and shall not again be till the Great End. Some were all of iron so cunningly linked that they might flow like slow rivers of metal or coil themselves around and above all obstacles before them, and these were filled in their innermost depths with the grimmest of the Orcs with scimitars and spears; others of bronze and copper were given hearts and spirits of blazing fire, and they blasted all that stood before them with the terror of their snorting or trampled whatso escaped the ardour of their breath; yet others were creatures of pure flame that writhed like ropes of molten metal, and they brought to ruin whatever fabric they came nigh, and iron and stone melted before them and became as water, and upon them rode the Balrogs in hundreds; and these were the most dire of all those monsters which Morgoth devised against Gondolin.

VOTE COUNT 5:6

Espeonage

- 1 - SpyreX

ActionDan

- 1 - Tierce

Desperado

- 1 - Cogito Ergo Sum

Tierce

- 4 - PeregrineV, sirdanilot, Espeonage, ActionDan

sirdanilot

- 2 - Desperado, shos

Not voting (1)

: Elscouta

With 10 players alive it takes

6

votes to lynch.

Deadline is in

(expired on 2014-02-25 20:05:00)

[Espeonage]

Stances are weird for scum given my view on the game.

[sirdanilot]

We're not going to lynch Tierce (or Spyspy for that matter) when ABR got JKed by the scum N2 and N3.

Desperado is the right lynch; I'd settle for Elscouta but I don't particularly think that's going to happen. ActionDan looks better now in hindsight given that JS claimed to target him, so I'd probably put Esp as the third best bet for scum.

Though I would not be opposed to a desp lynch, an Esp lynch is the best out of these options.

Hey. Hey Espeonage.

There is no reason for you to be voting me if you're Town. I'm Town and I have been making that exceedingly obvious. Off with you and vote ActionDan.

Leave your buddy alone, let him bus you if he wants ! You can bus him too as I said.

[sirdanilot]

VOTE: Espeonage

Pleeease guys, let's hit scum. Pleeeeaaaaaaase

[Espeonage]

Unvote, Vote: Desp

[sirdanilot]

^ Panicked scum attempt to derail the wagon to someoen else

Or very very bad bus

[Espeonage]

Nah, just some clarity.

His position is bad, and less town than his wagonbuddy.

[Espeonage]

Dat Conf Bias tho.

[ActionDan]

you know. when push comes to shove. I'm not sure I really want to vote Esp

[Espeonage]

So I was just thinking. Spy isn't allowed to get to Lylo because parking, so he needs to go either today or tomorrow. I'm completely cool with leaving it until tomorrow, but that's the go if we don't do it today.

[sirdanilot]

you know. when push comes to shove. I'm not sure I really want to vote Esp

No no no no no no

[Elscouta]

Didn't manage to do a proper analysis of Tierce opinions on NK. However, the CES comment about scum having JKed ABR makes sense, so I will accept it. I never really liked PV case, but one of his last post makes me want to flee this wagon as fast as possible.

Talk me through the HOW this makes ActionDan town.

ActionDan seemed to genuinely believe JS would be confirmed. When JS was still flying off the radar, attracting attention on that point caused JS to be lynched. If ActionDan was trying to bus JS, he would have posted something that looked like he was believing sho would NOT confirm JS, not the opposite.

or does he think

"I'll protect town-Tierce who stupid scum might try to kill and then the next day lynch scum-Shadow."

Don't really see Majiffy as the whole suicide-type. Do you?

This is horrible horrible horrible horrible horrible. Horrible enough that this single thing moved you from a decent position in my town reads to a prime scum read. We lynched Shadoweh almost purely based on the crumb, and you never mentionned once that you doubted the crumb. And now that Shadoweh is dead, you try to bullshit that the crumb was false, the lynch was by chance, and that Majiffy actually protected Tierce. Please.

Vote: PeregrineV

[Desperado]

^ Panicked scum attempt to derail the wagon to someoen else

Or very very bad bus

How does no one else see this shit?

Espeonage was already on Tierce, so he was doing the

exact opposite

of the thing sirdan is accusing him of doing by voting me.

[Desperado]

@ Elscouta: now really is not the time to be pursuing a whiplash 180 vanity wagon. What are your reads on Sirdan and I?

[Elscouta]

You are town. I would not support a wagon on you

Sirdan could be scum. I will definitely support his lynch if necessary.

However I believe there is enough support for a PV lynch, and i think the part i quoted is quite damning.

[sirdanilot]

This is horrible horrible horrible horrible horrible. Horrible enough that this single thing moved you from a decent position in my town reads to a prime scum read. We lynched Shadoweh almost purely based on the crumb, and you never mentionned once that you doubted the crumb. And now that Shadoweh is dead, you try to bullshit that the crumb was false, the lynch was by chance, and that Majiffy actually protected Tierce. Please.

I think you are one of the townies in this game that have everything completely ass backwards els. Or you're scum.

I, for one, didn't give a crap about the crumb. Shadoweh was extremely obvscum at that point as I have showed before and had to be lynched. I think htere are more people who are actually GOOD at playing this game with that same insight.

People who did not have that insight (such as tierce) are either very bad at the game or they are scum.