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[AngryPidgeon]

DGB, why would you hydra with someone who was scum last game?

VOTE: SweatingChessball

And why would you assume they're scum again?

FoS: This

VOTE: dopog

I am scum and trying to push a mislynch.

Okay, you are also town. That said, you're almost certainly right that dopog is a mislynch, soooooo, don't push there.

Vote: sekai no ki.

Because I'm a rebel and Aegor is obviously town. You can random wagon him all you'd like, it's all fun and games and such, but I'd prefer to actually have a random vote that's got a chance of being serious.

While Aegor does seem pretty town so far, I dislike this endorsement.

Mastin I don't think Im willing to call you a scumread yet, but you are par for the course with this wall alone.

[AngryPidgeon]

mastin2 is scum, he's going to have to NK us.

Ok you can be town.

[AngryPidgeon]

VOTE: Aegor

I COUNTERCLAIM

VOTE: Rubicon

This is a legitimate scumclaim, rather than Aegor's faked scumclaim, because it's taking the fun but instead of running with it (voting Aegor), he takes this approach, to avoid drawing attention to himself. Especially since Aegor (having self-voted first) would take the brunt of the blow. It's scum trying to blend in during the RVS, while also trying to avoid becoming part of something they'd rather avoid. (For instance, if Aegor got wagoned to, say, L-1, it'd be something a scum-Rubicon would want to be off of like the plague.)

[AngryPidgeon]

Also I kinda wanna talk about the mechanics a bit.
When would be the good time to talk about it?

In the dead thread

dayvig:GIF

*gasps for breath*

*slumps down*

*flips town*

Thank god you towntold here I was getting nervous.

Also Molla v Nero was lolz.

[ActionDan]

Uhhh. But I claim scum all the time. Like frequently. Multiple times per game. And typically only as town.

[AngryPidgeon]

OMG. You actually employed reasoning to generate a read. I want to reinforce good behavior.

So town.

Innocent Child. not lynch. Ever.

[AngryPidgeon]

Uhhh. But I claim scum all the time. Like frequently. Multiple times per game. And typically only as town.

IM NOT NERO CAIN

[ActionDan]

Don't you deny it

[Majiffy]

Workin a double. Check in tomorrow.

[AngryPidgeon]

This is supicious

Sven's probably scum, because this is the same Sven from Anything Goes.

Its really really not though.

vote rubicon

He OMGUSed mastin with only 3 voets on him and still in RVS. That seems like scum over-reacting.

Guys I think the scum are throwing themselves at each other this game, gonna be easy GG autowin.

whats this shit about AP being the best bird around mastin im the best bird obv

Don't let mastin destroy or masonry. (Im only voting you to distance so when I flip mason-bird scum doesnt figure you out.

[AngryPidgeon]

Thor is town. Im locking that read in 5eva. Post 134 was a masterpiece.

This means Thor has at most a day before I call him scum

[AngryPidgeon]

A whole lot of moonbeams

Too tryhard; didn't read

This post is a scum-claim.

Vote: Rubicon

Town.

[sekai no ki]

That's too bad. it could be the longest post I write all game.

[AngryPidgeon]

Ok I'm through page 7. Gonna get this down:

Town: Aegor, Thor665, zDenek
Probably Town: Bulbazak, GIF

Im forgetting someone,..

[BBmolla]

*raises hand*

[Nero Cain]

Uhhh. But I claim scum all the time. Like frequently. Multiple times per game. And typically only as town.

I kinda dislike how he misquoted AP and is claiming that I said this.

[Thor665]

Chessball is town.

Back at ya.

I don't have a good read on them either way at the moment, but feel that pressure on them and getting people to oppose or support the wagon will be useful to me in reading their alignment and also the alignment of others.

Now it's your turn, why do you think they're town?

Only town has control of the mechanic, so to try and take control of it from those people means you don't trust them and are willing to allow scum to influence their choices.

You are reading the mod's info in the most rose-colored way possible if you believe scum won't be given at least one if not more tools to influence the horde.

Also, last I checked, multiple town players working together tended to have better reads on average - ref: every dead QT ever.

so tell me more about how a proclaimed null behavior makes them scum?

I would submit my statement holds just as much solid evidence as his rebuttal to my previous request, and presented it to show as much. What confuses you there?

Thor is town. Im locking that read in 5eva. Post 134 was a masterpiece.

This means Thor has at most a day before I call him scum

Really? I'll get that long?

[AngryPidgeon]

Really? I'll get that long?

Probably longer. Actually maybe I should start waffling on you anyways cause if I dont you'll think Im scum.

[Thor665]

That's true.
As I recall it was decently accurate as a tell too.

[Toogeloo]

You are reading the mod's info in the most rose-colored way possible if you believe scum won't be given at least one if not more tools to influence the horde.

There is no indication what so ever that scum would have any influence.

First off, people with the Horde Mentality have to pick three names. Of these three names, the host randomly ousts two of them. Then he tallies the names up and the one with the most gets killed. It's practically random in and of itself.

Everyone with the Horde Mentality could put "Toogeloo" down as one of their choices, but if I get ousted from every list, I am not dying. It's just too random of a situation to think that scum would have a power to influence it at this stage.

And furthermore, even if you believe that scum have a way to manipulate the horde, why are you condoning actually giving them more information to work with in order to better utilize said ability?

[Bulbazak]

Vote ActionDan

[Thor665]

There is no indication what so ever that scum would have any influence.

Not overtly, I'll agree.
There are *also* no promises that no PRs can effect the results. So...y'know, go read his last zombie game.

And furthermore, even if you believe that scum have a way to manipulate the horde, why are you condoning actually giving them more information to work with in order to better utilize said ability?

What power do you think they will have that will be dependent on knowing the names people are likely to submit?

Also, I know last zombie game, as scum, I was happy that town was so haphazard in how they used the mechanic.

[pidgey]

Toog mostly on another site that is mostly super role madness shenanigans (still pretty cool games (sometimes))

[SweatingChessball3]

Vote: SweatingChessball

Because based on my last 2 games with you both, you probably won't be around tomorrow.

If you somehow are, we may revisit this.

You're scum AGAIN????

[SweatingChessball3]

Thats a shitty reason to get a scum read on me

Another one that drew scum, again.