The Fall of Gondolin Mafia: Game Over (The Tale of Gondolin)

[sirdanilot]

^ Panicked scum attempt to derail the wagon to someoen else

Or very very bad bus

How does no one else see this shit?

Espeonage was already on Tierce, so he was doing the

exact opposite

of the thing sirdan is accusing him of doing by voting me.

No.

You are town. I would not support a wagon on you

Sirdan could be scum. I will definitely support his lynch if necessary.

However I believe there is enough support for a PV lynch, and i think the part i quoted is quite damning.

Dude, how ass backwards can you be? Desp is definitely up there scum-wise. And I am as obvtown as can be without claims and stuff like that.

The PV thing is also not remotely a scum tell.

Please. If you are scum just die already, and if you're town please just listen to the bplayers who DONT have ass backwards reads and who are actually ABLE TO PROPERLY READ PEOPLE

[sirdanilot]

I don't get it, is this such a hard game? Or are there just so many scums out there?

Esp is scum, Tierce may be scum, Desp may be scum, CES *might* be scum, els *might* be scum. Scumreading anyone other than those people at this point in time is just stupid. Tomorrow yes we might have other info, but for now these are the obvious lynch candidates. And Tierce and esp are the most viable.

Reading anyone else scum just proves that you are very bad at mafia and should go play smaller games and focus on your reading ability. OR you are just scum, scum and scum.

[shos]

hey hey! hey! hey hey! guys!

have you ever seen sirdanilot defend someone from a wagon?
see his ISO. I'm a goat if you can't find there at least 5 times of a 'that lynch is ok, but hey, THIS is better'. last one happened page 82. meanwhile, see his scumlist, containing

Esp
tierce
desp
CES
elscouta.

that's half the people alive. more, if you don't count him.

[shos]

in another note: I need to catch up from post 1977

[SpyreX]

Espeonage - 2 - SpyreX, sirdanilot
ActionDan - 1 - Tierce
Desperado - 2 - Cogito Ergo Sum, Espeonage
Tierce - 2 - PeregrineV, ActionDan
sirdanilot - 2 - Desperado, shos
PeregrineV - 1 - Elscouta

I think this is right.

And I think it illustrates how retarded ass this game is being.

Lets play: Its almost deadline and we need something to actually happen or we're going to nolynch again and that is primo awesome.

Espeonage has been covered and I am

still waiting

for someone to use their words to explain why he is town.
Desperado wouldn't make me cry except for the fact Esp is there. Which also served to make the Tierce wagon weaker soo I'm not sure how that plays out.
Tierce never was for today and watching in the 11th hour that finally dissemble is both good and unbelievably irritating.
Sirdan isn't getting lynched today. Not on the back of "well maaaybe Majiffy just opted to let it live for shits and giggles"
Even if PV and/or AD were viable wagons they're still not good. Those votes are going to shift everything and need to happen.

@shos:
I'll barter. I'll go through and do a full analysis on sirdan with what you're looking at tomorrow if you help me lynch esp today and he's town.

@tierce:
You know how this is going to play out. Come help me or don't be shocked when its you or nolynch. Both of which are stupid.

@CES:
Your heart is in the right place, but lets negotiate. I'll give you my vote tomorrow if you give me yours today.

Seriously I will write poems or sing songs or whatever else you want in the damn universe to get this done. Today.

[Elscouta]

Sirdan isn't getting lynched today. Not on the back of "well maaaybe Majiffy just opted to let it live for shits and giggles"

Sirdan has not been the n1 target of Majiffy, you are the only one still believing this absurdity.

Espeonage has been covered and I am still waiting for someone to use their words to explain why he is town.

On the other hand, we are still waiting for you to explain why he is scum.

[SpyreX]

You know there's a reason why I didn't even try to play ball with you.

Sirdan has not been the n1 target of Majiffy, you are the only one still believing this absurdity.

There's one scenario where it makes sense to opt to not lynch if you're the decider at that point: if you are 100% sure that the person you are lynching is town. At that point, there is no gain from a dead body. Majiffy and I don't see eye to eye on a lot of things, but that one I'm fine with rolling with.

So, when the cop hesitates on the lynch, I'm not about to just roll over and go well maaybbeee herrrrfff.

On the other hand, we are still waiting for you to explain why he is scum.

Well you can wait forever, because like I said: you're not getting a case on lurking.

You want the bullet list? He claimed VT then put on the shades and has cruised controlled from then on. He promised content today and lo and fuckin behold we've seen a lot of it. He aoked the Tierce lynch under welp we can afford it when if that's the stand someone was going to use welp there's not a better slot that than to be send to the hells where it belongs.

You want a more pragmatic answer? If Esp and I are both town, we will lose this game if we are both here at lylo. Period. Full stop. I, literally, will feel no tears or loss at that point and for every whine in the endgame I will point back to the fact you were explicitly told what was going to happen and then chose to put your heads in the sand about it.

So, before that point if you're town you better stone up and make one of us go.

[Elscouta]

There's one scenario where it makes sense to opt to not lynch if you're the decider at that point: if you are 100% sure that the person you are lynching is town. At that point, there is no gain from a dead body. Majiffy and I don't see eye to eye on a lot of things, but that one I'm fine with rolling with.

So, when the cop hesitates on the lynch, I'm not about to just roll over and go well maaybbeee herrrrfff.

Newsflash:

- Natirasha breadcrumbed MafiaSSK, not sirdan
- This game is fully stoked with arrogant <censored> that believe they are scumhunting gods. Are you

[Elscouta]

Clicked in the middle of the posting:


Newsflash:

- Natirasha breadcrumbed MafiaSSK, not sirdan
- This game is fully stoked with arrogant <censored> that believe they are scumhunting gods. Are you aware that there in this game someone that is voteparking since day 1 just by a matter of principle? So yeah, this kind of behavior is independant of investigations.

[SpyreX]

- This game is fully stoked with arrogant <censored> that believe they are scumhunting gods. Are you aware that there in this game someone that is voteparking since day 1 just by a matter of principle? So yeah, this kind of behavior is independant of investigations.

You mean me?

Nah, I wasn't aware of that.

So, once again:

Why is Esp town.

[SpyreX]

And show me this rock hard breadcrumb because, once again:

Town
{Tierce, Sirdan, Shos, Spyrex}

Town Lean
{CES, Elscouta, Desperado}

Temporary Town Permit (Useful Until Proven Otherwise)
{ActionDan, TIP, JacobSavage, ABR}

Scum
{Espy, Shadoweh}

Outliers (Null and useless)
{PV, MafiaSSK}

N1 NULL READ GABBY FUCKIN JAY GUYS

[SpyreX]

BUT MOOMMM COPS INVESTIGATE POEOPLE AND SAY THEY ARE NULL ALL THE TIME

[Elscouta]

Esp has reasonable odds to be scum. He is far from being town. But he is just that: a potential compromise wagon.

On the other hand, you have someone that seems to believe Majiffy didn't investigate Shadoweh

but let a full game pass ending with Shadow lynch without even giving this opinion, while everyone was lynching Shadoweh because of the crumb

(except sirdan, but it is because he lives (fakes to live?) in his little dream world where he was sooo sure she was scum).

[Elscouta]

BUT MOOMMM COPS INVESTIGATE POEOPLE AND SAY THEY ARE NULL ALL THE TIME

...

Natirasha claimed she should investigate MafiaSSK. After the night, she said nothing, and shortly replaced out. Any logical person would assume that she missed her night target out of boredom for the game. If you want the crumbs of this intent to investigate, they are in ActionDan iso and are completely clear cut.

[Elscouta]

For reference:

Or should I just say guilty until proven innocent? Quite frankly,

I'm going to figure out SSK's alignment

by the end of tomorrow.

Pls don't kill ssk today.

Is he a lurker? Sure, absolutely. But he's also a lurker I have a certain fondness for and once he gets back from his IRL vacation

I will be able to get his alignment down easily

.

Oh look I found the N1 innocent.

[ActionDan]

Elscouta can be town. done wavering on that read

[SpyreX]

Esp has reasonable odds to be scum. He is far from being town. But he is just that: a potential compromise wagon.

On the other hand, you have someone that seems to believe Majiffy didn't investigate Shadoweh

but let a full game pass ending with Shadow lynch without even giving this opinion, while everyone was lynching Shadoweh because of the crumb

(except sirdan, but it is because he lives (fakes to live?) in his little dream world where he was sooo sure she was scum).

What the christ are you on about now?

Majiffy investigated Shadow N2 and that is why he died

.

4. Aegor - Maeglin, House of the Mole, Gondolin Godfather - Lynched Day 1
6. chamber - Egalmoth, House of the Heavenly Arch, Gondolin Vanilla - Removed from Gondolin Night 1
17. TheIrishPope (replacing xRECKONERx) - Voronwë, Gondolin Vanilla - Removed From Gondolin Night 2
5. Majiffy (replacing Natirasha) - Pengolodh, Gondolin Weak Doctor - Died Night 2
18. Shadoweh - Galdor, House of the Tree, Secret Way Conspiracy Shieldrender - Lynched Day 3

And in no universe is "I am able to read SSK well because we play a million games together" = "I am going to investigate SSK"

And Nat posted D2 so if you think somehow they just went "ehh fuck it, not doing an action well" I have no words.

Nat didn't say anything D2 about his action that I can see. However, Majiffy sure as hell did. In both his initial reads and not letting that wagon go through.

[SpyreX]

And its all "compromise wagons" right now.

Although I'm not compromising on moonbeams and butter sauce. Especially when from your own words Esp has "reasonable odds" to be scum.

[Tierce]

PeregrineV tried to claim Majiffy died because he investigated me. Which is hilariously tacked on to the ever-growing pile of bullshit nonsense he's trying to pass off as a case on me.

PeregrineV Tomorrow. "But Tierce whyyyyy aren't you showing your work when you have already done so multiple times sorry too busy skimming xoxo ~PV P.S. why isn't the crumb a guilty on you since it'd totes make sense to bus a better scum player than you and who likely had a decent PR P.P.S. let me add more to the

pile of bullshit

case so people will not even be able to see the bottom anymore"


This is getting so blatant that it's reminding me of a certain person riding the coattails of a fake Mason claim. Probably not, because I do think he's as incompetent as he looks, but hey, I'm all out of bubblegum.
UNVOTE: ActionDan
VOTE: Espeonage

Cue screeching bunny ears.


Final words:

You want a more pragmatic answer? If Esp and I are both town, we will lose this game if we are both here at lylo. Period. Full stop. I, literally, will feel no tears or loss at that point and for every whine in the endgame I will point back to the fact you were explicitly told what was going to happen and then chose to put your heads in the sand about it.

This is no one's fault but yours and Espeonage's if you're both Town. It's the same game all over again and I'm out of fucks to give about apologizing when you're turning around and doing it again.

[Elscouta]

Well if Tierce is voting Esp and not PV, there is indeed no chance that PV gets lynched.

Vote: Espeonage

[ActionDan]

needs some VC

[Tierce]

Well if Tierce is voting Esp and not PV, there is indeed no chance that PV gets lynched.

Vote: Espeonage

Tired of herding cats. Tomorrow.

[SpyreX]

This is no one's fault but yours and Espeonage's if you're both Town. It's the same game all over again and I'm out of fucks to give about apologizing when you're turning around and doing it again.

Thats fine because I never asked for the apology.

The fact it takes

that kind of declaration

to make something happen on a slot like that pisses me off to no end. If I remember in the way back machine after all that me-being-trash talk it was you that talked about combating apathy.

THIS IS HOW YOU COMBAT IT. YOU KILL IT DEAD. YOU DONT BARGAIN WITH IT. YOU DONT HOPE THAT MYSTERIOUSLY ON DAY FUCKING FIVE ITS GOING TO START PLAYING.

And finger point all you want about this being my fault and woebegons but when out of the gate I say thats going to happen, its whats going to happen unless other people decide to make it not happen. If I was "apathetic" about this I'd have just let them lynch you.

[Tierce]

I'm not talking about apathy. I'm talking about the numbers dwindling and us not having the ability to lynch obvPereVscum because YOU WON'T VOTE ANYONE BUT ESPEONAGE. That's what drives me crazy right now.

But fine. Have it your way. I hope I'm wrong and that he'll flip scum because he's driving me up the wall anyway. Maybe if I'm lucky enough I'll also get a pony.

[Tierce]

And while we're all still here and I don't feel like clawing someone's face, I'd like your stance on this, which Elscouta has already brought up + PereV never bothering to bring up the tinfoil about it until when it's convenient:

PeregrineV tried to claim Majiffy died because he investigated me. Which is hilariously tacked on to the ever-growing pile of bullshit nonsense he's trying to pass off as a case on me.