Left 4 Dead Mafia! (Game Over!)

[pidgey]

dammit AP are you town am i correct to assume this?

BBmolla put that hand down this instant

[pidgey]

Kinda agree with sweating cheeseball in that one btw lol.

[pidgey]

(The one regarding sven)

[Aegor]

As for the mechanic, it's my opinion that if you are a VT, just submit your own choices and screw what everyone else thinks. Only town has control of the mechanic, so to try and take control of it from those people means you don't trust them and are willing to allow scum to influence their choices.

That makes no sense. While the mechanic is not deterministic, it still functions like a second chance for a lynch. It is to the town's benefit to take advantage of this. There are 22 players, so the decisions will be made largely by town anyway.

[Zdenek]

AP, SCB3, are hitting nice notes.
Aegor, BBmolla, look town.

[SweatingChessball3]

TOWN

Chessball====3
Alpazard
Bulbazak
Zdenek
BBmolla
Toogeloo is vanilla town
GIF
Rubicon

MEDIUM RARE

Sven's vezok vote is pretty good.
sekai is townish.
Thor starts bad but posts 175 and 176 aren't cranky, so probtown.
mastin2

SCUM PILE FOR SORTING

ActionDan may be buttering me up.
AngryPidgeon
Peregrine is nervous that I'll catch him being scum again, I have fried his brain.
Aegor
vezok

[ActionDan]

I kinda dislike how he misquoted AP and is claiming that I said this.

sorry? it's like it was accidental or something

[AngryPidgeon]

dammit AP are you town am i correct to assume this?

Yes sir.

Ok here are some tentative other townreads in addition to {Aegor, zDenek, Thor, Bulbazak, GIF)::

Pidgey, Peregrine

...

Maybe Molla (actually he might be a Mafia Usurper Traitor this game), mayyybe Sven, mayyyybe The Pie/Ffery thing.

Scummy: Rubicon, Vezko <- These 2 are obvious, should probably go first.
Maybe Scummy: Mastin, Dan?, toogeloo?

[AngryPidgeon]

UNVOTE: ; VOTE: Vezokpiraka

Hilarious scum to the front of the lynch Q!

[ActionDan]

I would submit my statement holds just as much solid evidence as his rebuttal to my previous request, and presented it to show as much. What confuses you there?

I picked out your statement to capture your stance clearly. why do you think DGB hydra is scum from doing something that you say is null?

[pidgey]

Cheeseball forgot to put me in that list lol

Im irrelevant ;_;

Hell yeah vezok vote = good vote

[Venmar]

Votecount 1.3

[0] Majiffy:

[1]

Toogeloo:

BBMolla

[1]

Sekai No Ki:

Mastin2

[2]

SweatingChessBall3:

RedCoyote, Thor665

[0] PeregrineV:

[0] RedCoyote:

[2]

Mastin2:

Nero Cain, Rubicon

[1]

Alpazard:

GuyInFreezer

[1]

Aegor:

SweatingChessBall3

[0] GuyInFreezer:

[1]

Bulbazak:

dopog

[0] Thor665:

[2]

Svenskt Stål:

ActionDan, Alpazard

[4]

Rubicon:

Vezokpiraka, PeregrineV, Zdenek, Toogeloo

[1]

ActionDan:

Bulbazak

[4]

Vezokpiraka:

Svenskt Stal, Aegor, pidgey, AngryPidgeon

[0] BBMolla:

[0] Pidgey:

[0] AngryPidgeon:

[0] Dopog:

[0] Nero Cain:

[0] Zdenek:

Not Voting (2):

• Majiffy, Sekai no Ki

Deadline:

• Saturday, March 8th, 2014

Mod Notes:

• With 22 alive, it takes 12 to lynch.

[Venmar]

For those who it helps, I have put one more category into the first post dedicated to Votecounts, I will try to put every votecount I do there for those who want a quick index to them!

(Quick Link)

Also, I am going to change the shade of orange to the proper one (This one!), because I personally thought the one I was using might have been a bit hard or incovenient to read on certain screens.

[sekai no ki]

GIF is town
I'll go BBmolla town, mastin town

post

this entire post feels forced. none of it seems like it's coming from an angle of trying to figure anything out

vote rubicon

He OMGUSed mastin with only 3 voets on him and still in RVS. That seems like scum over-reacting.

this feels like flow-going. anything else you have to say?

[Majiffy]

Welp, I personally look forward to catching up on 30 pages by the time I get out of work tomorrow.

[sekai no ki]

Zdenek is town as shit

Bulbazak, you don't feel confident or aggressive because Mastin called you an a-hole?

No, she called me an a-hole awhile ago. I've been reevaluating how I tackle games, since my town win-rate is abysmal. I just feel out of my depth atm.

seems genuine. Bulba is probably town

I hate how Rubicon's reaction to his wagon was to just blatantly ignore it

[sekai no ki]

ok I can't take it anymore Aegor is town as shit

You are reading the mod's info in the most rose-colored way possible if you believe scum won't be given at least one if not more tools to influence the horde.

There is no indication what so ever that scum would have any influence.

First off, people with the Horde Mentality have to pick three names. Of these three names, the host randomly ousts two of them. Then he tallies the names up and the one with the most gets killed. It's practically random in and of itself.

Everyone with the Horde Mentality could put "Toogeloo" down as one of their choices, but if I get ousted from every list, I am not dying. It's just too random of a situation to think that scum would have a power to influence it at this stage.

And furthermore, even if you believe that scum have a way to manipulate the horde, why are you condoning actually giving them more information to work with in order to better utilize said ability?

^probably town? it seems like a genuine attempt to figure shit out and his assumption about the mechanic, while I disagree, seems like smth town would do

[sekai no ki]

what's about it?

TOWN

Chessball====3
Alpazard
Bulbazak
Zdenek
BBmolla
Toogeloo is vanilla town
GIF
Rubicon

MEDIUM RARE

Sven's vezok vote is pretty good.
sekai is townish.
Thor starts bad but posts 175 and 176 aren't cranky, so probtown.
mastin2

SCUM PILE FOR SORTING

ActionDan may be buttering me up.
AngryPidgeon
Peregrine is nervous that I'll catch him being scum again, I have fried his brain.
Aegor
vezok

explain Alpazard, Rubicon, Peregrine, Aegor


anyway
town: GIF, BBmolla, Aegor, Zdenek
null-town: mastin, Toog, Bulba

scum: Rubicon, vezok

vote: Rubicon

wagon ahoy

@AP:

what exactly is your read on mastin?

[AngryPidgeon]

@AP: what exactly is your read on mastin?

Maybe Scummy: Mastin, Dan?, toogeloo?

[sekai no ki]

what's about 53? I don't see it 0.0

and is that the only reason you have him as null-scum? bc I didn't see you bring up any other posts of his. if not, can you elaborate plz

[AngryPidgeon]

bc I didn't see you bring up any other posts of his.

DGB, why would you hydra with someone who was scum last game?

VOTE: SweatingChessball

And why would you assume they're scum again?

FoS: This

VOTE: dopog

I am scum and trying to push a mislynch.

Okay, you are also town. That said, you're almost certainly right that dopog is a mislynch, soooooo, don't push there.

Vote: sekai no ki.

Because I'm a rebel and Aegor is obviously town. You can random wagon him all you'd like, it's all fun and games and such, but I'd prefer to actually have a random vote that's got a chance of being serious.

While Aegor does seem pretty town so far, I dislike this endorsement.

Mastin I don't think Im willing to call you a scumread yet, but you are par for the course with this wall alone.

[sekai no ki]

so I assume you don't wanna tell me what the problem with 53 is?

I wanna know cause it seemed like a typical mastin post to me, but this is the first time I'm trying to do a personal read on mastin so idk how much I should actually trust said read

[Bulbazak]

I kinda dislike how he misquoted AP and is claiming that I said this.

sorry? it's like it was accidental or something

There's no way it was accidental. Nero is nowhere in the post you quoted from. You would have had to insert his name manually.

[sekai no ki]

Hi AP. I'm a little surprised and a little concerned that you aren't making more of an effort to interact and maybe sort us.

[sekai no ki]

I kinda dislike how he misquoted AP and is claiming that I said this.

sorry? it's like it was accidental or something

There's no way it was accidental. Nero is nowhere in the post you quoted from. You would have had to insert his name manually.

highlight and quote do bizarre things sometimes.