"Flavourless Mafia," Mini 1548!

[DOMO]

You're not the one being hammered. Don't be alarmed.

So? I'm guessing 3 scums, which makes it 5:2; if we mislynch today then it's lylo tomorrow. I don't know if I'm obvtown or not, if I am I could be picked off before even posting any thoughts. It's 15 pages, I'll be up to date within a day. Anyone who hammers before I'm up to date is scum.

[DOMO]

Flames, it's not even L-1, why you telling people to hammer?

I'm up to page 5 and kat and uite are town.

So that's hiplop, flames, TSO and lemdget, I expect two scums in there.

[Flames of Disaster]

Flames, it's not even L-1, why you telling people to hammer?

I'm up to page 5 and kat and uite are town.

So that's hiplop, flames, TSO and lemdget, I expect two scums in there.

Read until the part where everyone in this game is hated

[DOMO]

I'm read up. Ok it's effectively L-1 because of hammerer.

I think I've changed my mind on kat, she can still be scum.

Kat is town unless someone can convince me that she somehow knew about "instant rice" without there being a sample role PM.

I thought the instant crumb made kat town too, but kaze posting this certainly killed that idea.

Flames seems scummy as hell, but his hammer of kaze is also something that had me question that read. But that could be a bus, seeing as kaze was fucked at that stage and flames hadn't really pushed kaze all that much at that point.

lemidget and hiplop are both possible scums.

Uite feels town, his push on kaze seemed pretty genuine and at a time when kaze wasn't in the shit. TSO also pushed kaze in a manner that had me thinking he's town.

So I'm looking at kat, flames, lemidget and hiplop.

Also - hammerer - has anyone actually had a look at the wiki page?
http://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?title=Hammerer

A Hammerer is a role that passively hammers players. This effect will occur if a player only needs one more vote to be lynched and the Hammerer's vote is not already on the wagon; the Hammerer's vote will be automatically moved to the wagon to secure the lynch. If the Hammerer's vote is already on the wagon, the passive hammer is not possible.

This role is very rarely Town-aligned.

We should be able to find the hammerer by simple process of elimination - who wasn't on any of the wagons at L-1?

That'll be TSO and hiplop.

vote hiplop

[DOMO]

fwiw if we mislynch today, we're probably at lylo tomorrow with a hammerer in play. Which means L-2 can be seized on by scum. That needs to be considered.

hiplop and kat are both effectively L-1.

[DOMO]

whiskerts my vote was on discode, btw

I'm pretty sure this is some sort of townslip, by the way.

Why is this a townslip? And do you still feel this way after a quick VC analysis shows that the hammerer is one of you or hiplop?

[LeMidget]

DOMO, why am I scummy?

[DOMO]

Simply because I didn't pick up any town vibes off you. You'd be null if I wasn't looking for 2 scum in a pool of 6.

Why are you concerned about my lack of townread on you? Why would you not be more interested in me narrowing down the hammerer pool? Isn't that more important than a vague fos?

[DOMO]

VOTE: Kaze because Marquis and Lambadelta were both town and thought him scum.

Oh yeah I felt this vote was somewhat awkward, almost reluctant.

[Flames of Disaster]

Why am I paying Attention to this game? Oh, right, because all my others are in night.

Please just get stick with the program. Domo's replacement, although 'right thing to do', somehow comes across as an impediment to game momentum.

[Flames of Disaster]

I'm sorry if that came across as rude. I'm just impatient.

And I probably have no motivation to justify my vote too much.

[DOMO]

Please just get stick with the program. Domo's replacement, although 'right thing to do', somehow comes across as an impediment to game momentum.

Yeah this is scum. Why would he feel like I'm impeding game momentum? That's such a strange thing to say when I come in here and basically nail the hammerer (I'm pretty confident it's hiplop). This will be my 9th post, which is one behind the guy I replaced. You'd think flames would be happy the town is rid of someone who isn't interested, and has been replaced by someone who will read the thread and post. Although I can see why scum would prefer things the way they were.

[DOMO]

Please just get stick with the program.

This is really irking me. What programme? Town is in disarray, two mislynches from defeat. Seems to me that we need a change of direction. Why are you resisting this?

Flames and hiplop are the last two scums, that would totally explain why flames isn't liking my entrance.

[Flames of Disaster]

I don't think you know exactly what is going on in the game. Two mislynchea from defeat isn't a bad deal, unless town is full of idiots. Many other games have been in this situation and turned out fine.

Do you think that scum is leading this game? If not, then there is no problem. This looks town led to me.

[Flames of Disaster]

Flames and hiplop are the last two scums, that would totally explain why flames isn't liking my entrance.

yeah, totally. TOTALLY.

[DOMO]

unless town is full of idiots.

Well I hope I'm not offending people, but how long did it take me to figure out what the hammerer is and who is can and can't be? Town is not exactly thriving here. It doesn't matter if it's scum led or town led, I don't know which it is but if it's town led it's poor town leadership. Kat is at L-2, despite her crumb, and despite her interaction with kaze. I'm not suggesting kat is cleared, but she's a bad lynch for today.

You say town is doing well... I see one dead scum who got lynched under sketchy circumstances, and town have done nothing with the information that lynch provided, as evidenced by the kat wagon.

And you're asking for a quickhammer because you want the game over with ASAP.

If you get your way, and if kat dies town today, will you still be saying at lylo that we're in good shape?

I'll be very surprised if you're town flames. You're either bad town who has less of a clue about the state of the game than someone who replaced in a couple of hours ago, or you're scum who feels vulnerable and wants to get to lylo as quickly as possible to take the pressure off.

[Katarina LeBlanc]

I like DOMO replacement, he pretty much put the words in my mouth because apparently I'm scum for some strange reason and that we're putting people at L-1 with the hammerer in game.

Anyways, just read the hammerer thing now which I didn't even really know existed because from my homesite, Mayors which are essentially double voters are extremely prevalent (which immediately clouded my mind because Marquis claimed that who was from my homesite as well)

>If the Hammerer's vote is already on the wagon, the passive hammer is not possible.

ACTUALLY.

[Katarina LeBlanc]

Day 3 hammer DIDN'T have Kat, TSO, Discode and hiplop.
Day 2 hammer DIDN'T have Flames, Marquis, TSO, hiplop, Chamber.
Day 1 hammer DIDN'T have Flames, TSO, Uite, DisCode, GreyICE.

That would mean the passive hammerer was in those piles, because they were

not

on the wagons. That leaves the Hammerer within the lynch pool of TSO and hiplop.

I want to vote hiplop. I

am

voting hiplop.

[Katarina LeBlanc]

err add Le Midget to the pile of Day 1 not hammer and hiplop http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.ph ... 0#p5665210
I derped up my copypaste.

[DOMO]

We should be able to find the hammerer by simple process of elimination - who wasn't on any of the wagons at L-1?

That'll be TSO and hiplop.

vote hiplop

You're not stealing my glory kat. I found the hammerer first!

[Katarina LeBlanc]

Oh what. I had to go ISO the mod and post a bunch because I thought I had some game breaking information v:

[Katarina LeBlanc]

Anyways yeah. I originally had Flames on my auto-town pile because of the hammer but now it's just eeh. I still don't want to disclude the possibility of a third party, like 10-2-1 or something. Maybe it could be 10-3 but that would mean the hammerer was passive and scum just killed their own kin idk.

Actually, TSO had some pretty weird interaction with Kaze during day 2. idk, I'm more confident in lynching hiplop first.

They should both just put their votes on each other.

[Flames of Disaster]

If you get your way, and if kat dies town today, will you still be saying at lylo that we're in good shape?

I'll be very surprised if you're town flames. You're either bad town who has less of a clue about the state of the game than someone who replaced in a couple of hours ago, or you're scum who feels vulnerable and wants to get to lylo as quickly as possible to take the pressure off.

If

you

get your way, and if hiplop dies town today, what are you going to do?

That's beside the point. Leblanc is not going to die town, so let me have my way and try to prove me wrong after the fact.

I care enough about this game to want to win, yet not enough for me to keep up this pointless bickering and definitely not going to post walls of text in response to yours.

Hiplop may flip scum. But Leblanc will.

[Flames of Disaster]

Yes, I'm auto town, thank you Hannah.

I'm sure you're dying to know how I caught you. But I just told you.

[Katarina LeBlanc]

>Knows my name

Who are you, villain. If you read even a lick of the page before you, there won't even be reason to doubt the lynch candidates today. Why in heavens name am I scum rather than you're a tunnelfaced alt-hider.