In post 403, sekai no ki wrote:But, I think the basic idea of looking for town motivations behind posts, especially in the early game is something that either Mastin taught Nacho or Nacho taught Mastin or they both learned from someone else.
A bit of column A, bit of column B, and a bit from a column D not listed. Back in late-2010, Nacho was the first player that I really connected with after my return from 2009. When we hydra'd in Calcifer, Nacho basically laid the foundation for the new-Mastin, because from him, I learned how to be charismatic and also began to hone in on the more important aspects of things. Whereas before, I had walled needlessly, progressively, he helped me wall necessarily. However, while he influenced me greatly, I'm decently certain that he was not the one who taught me about motivations. In fact, I'm fairly certain that I came up with that idea, myself. I've been making MD threads since 2011 (when my play really began to improve), and this was something I learned, basically: that the old me had the right ideas, but completely wrong reasoning, because I was focusing on the wrong aspects of things. In other words, my needlessly-wordy theories were wrong because they had the wrong focus, but the heart of the idea was actually right, and finding that true focus refined these methods into actually-useful tools. Among them being motivation. I think that popped up as early as my revised-MITs. (Insane Tells. Which after the revisions, weren't nearly as insane.) So to some extent, I think I mighta taught Nacho about it at some point. However, largely, I suspect he also came up with the idea by himself. He certainly doesn't strike me as the type to have learned it from others.
Basically, I think we both individually came to the same realization after some amount of time, recognizing the evolving site meta and adapting to it quite well. It makes sense, because both of us had similar styles thanks to me having largely inherited his. (I consider Nacho an equal, but to some extent, I also consider him an honorary-IC of mine, thanks to him having helped define my play so much.)
/rambling.
(I can do insanity as scum, but my natural desire to fulfill my wincon as scum means that eventually, the act fades and you can see the method that was present in the madness.)
