Left 4 Dead Mafia! (Game Over!)

[AngryPidgeon]

Sven's case on Vezok is bad, sure, I'll give you that. But how is the case scummy?

I suppose I exaggerate. Basically for the same reason you mentioned in this post though.

How do scum lie about a reason and then forget it?

Vezok's post here rang aggressively null to me. I gathered that Vezok found Majiffy's posts scummy and intended to vote him. This doesn't really say anything about either Vezok or Majiffy's alignments. The posts being lost in the server crash and Vezok generally being a lurkaderp leads in to me being less than startled at his inability to recall precisely WHAt he wanted to vote majiffy over.
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Also, Sven felt a bit over the top to me here?

Sven specifically picked out the term "Still scum" from Vezok's ISO, bolded the phrase, and then played it up as if that had more implications than it actually does.

"

Still scum.

" alot of strength, vezok backs this strength up with not remembering what sparked it, but still felt the need to revote

chooo chooo

Call it gut to a degree I guess, but this really reads like someone trying to pin the case on the donkey. In this instance the donkey is Vezok and the case is that he scumslipped by blatantly having his hand in the "mislynch majiffy" cookie jar.

I don't see any progression from Sven here that looks naturally leading into the Vezok read and the case itself reads like someone trying to assign scum motivation to someone doing derp things. Add onto that the fact that Vezok is already a potential wagon today and has been for a while and its just ew.

I don't like it.

Thor: Opinion on Sekai? Im going to go insane if I have to read ffery myself.

[Svenskt Stål]

OR, I was trying to bring light to something i really didnt like and that people was ignoring, I have ZERO motivation as scum to make that fucking qoute post, I have made my case on vezok and i could jsut surf out some time. And I was the first vote on vezok so dont try to sum this up to me going for an easy wagon, your post feels like you are trying to paint me badly here because you dont direct it towards me but to an audience.

I am town this game. I am not getting lynched.

[Zdenek]

Nope. It just sprung out to me as something that shouldn't have been on your list.

This is the entirety of your iso

I wasn't kidding.

And all you did was justify the posts for the reason you made them, when my issue is with

the way

that you actually aren't backing up anything and just posting a bunch of nothing important en masse.

You're guilty of very asymmetrical scum hunting here.

[vezokpiraka]

@RC: I've played some games with thor. When he is town I've seen him crush scum. I've played with him as scum also and I've seen him play incredibly.
My post was a joke and not intended to be taken seriously.
Also Thor has his own way of making people sheep him.

[Thor665]

Actually, I don't care anymore. No scum would want to set themselves up to defend that pile of horse Smurf.

I am not so vitriolic, but I arrive at similar end conclusions. The whole interchange strengthens a Toog town read for me.

I don't understand why this would necessarily preclude a vote though. I mean, that's the whole point of using your vote, Thor. At least, that's how I approach the game as town.

To put it another way, you could vote mastin even though you're not too confident on your current scumread of mastin and be open to the idea of changing your vote should you want to.

Weird post.

That might make sense...if I hadn't had a vote in play elsewhere. So...whut? Seriously, justify why you found this weird some more.

So, I mean, is AD now 100% town because he's taking an SC mislynch off the table? But my greater point is that Thor missed AD's 71, which was much more obvious that mastin's point about dopog.

You note this but it is literally only IIoA. I agree that I didn't note Action Dan's post here or make commentary about it...but what does that say about anything?

thats alot of work rc, me likey

thor <--- sliding cuz lack of activity

Probably my lack of activity is also what caused you to miss/ddge the questions I asked you in my last post.
Want to weigh in on them now?

I suppose I exaggerate. Basically for the same reason you mentioned in this post though.

The reason is the case is bad, not scummy. Now, it might be scummy independent of being bad, yes. But though I'm getting a bit of scummy vibe off Sven it's heavily colored by how useless and newb he's being, which is a tricky bit of distinction to work through.

Thor: Opinion on Sekai? Im going to go insane if I have to read ffery myself.

I've been trying to get a read on Chessball and people are too scared o vote the slot. I suspect the same would happen with the other Hydra and didn't waste time splitting my efforts in any case. Basically people are too intimidated/bad at scumhunting to be willing to pressure either slot, and that will make it hard to read either slot until either slot actually commits to saying something with legit conviction - which neither has. Both slots are pretty mushy middle for me.

Also Thor has his own way of making people sheep him.

I state 'sheep me' over and over again?

[pidgey]

I'll ve going

v/la til sunday

although its semiofficial since i'll be on vacation and will still check the thread now and then and post a thought or a vote.

Anyway reading.

[pidgey]

Ok so some thoughts:

I hadnt really paid attention to BB until a bit and I'm not liking his presence in the game. He is softly defending fucking scummy players like majiffy without any real thought or presence. Just like throwing it out there for adding some substance and posterity to come back too it seems, all the while without actually being talkative about it.
Me no like. i KNOW he might do these at times, but I especially dislike the people he defends (vezok, majiffy) without any reasoning. Bb is scummy now.

I've reread bulba vs sven sudden outburst and I dont really know who to side with. It can be a bad excuse to vote someone for forgetting their reasons but vezok is scummy to me too lol so I kinda wanna side with sven? Even if its indeed a scummy reason to vote... so uhhh i dunno really. I think it could be town v town but for some reason it doesn't feel like it. Just can't put my finger on who is the unnatural one. Will reread both later. TBH bulba seems more town in other posts.

Sven how are excuses scummy lol this guy is making me like him less. Also don't love #501 ugh

Alpakazard lol now thats someone i dont remember in the slightest. Then again no one remembers me either so.

I should have more to think about sekai considering he posts a lot but i really dont fkn get his writing style as any tell, it just reads boring (sorry if this bothers you) and its kinda hard to see where he is coming from. Lemme reread right now some posts in detail. Ok stuff like #444 seems kinda townish.

Zdenek still being town and althout i won't move to sven at the moment since vezok is better its not a super bad vote.

Ok stopping at red coyote's wall but will finish later.

[Toogeloo]

You're guilty of very asymmetrical scum hunting here.

So I can't say I don't like your posts as a whole simply because one post in the bunch is ok?

[Venmar]

Mod

, is the game focused only on Left 4 Dead theme-wise or is it possible that it will have Left 4 Dead 2 elements as well?

Well, the first post is a picture split between L4D and L4D2, and I stated in signups and announcements that it included both, so yes, this game can contain theme and flavor from both games.

[GuyInFreezer]

And you're inclined to think it was the latter? Why? Also, why are you saying that it's semi-serious? Is it or is it not serious? Also also, why single out that play for late confirmation? I know for a fact that both myself and Thor (Thor as evidenced by the OP) were also late to confirm.

I don't know if others were around. But as I said, I did know that pieguy was around after the time role PMs were sent.
By semi-serious, I guess it's more on non-serious side. I was basically trolling fery with it but I did have a minor lingering suspicion there.

Because of the gender stuff? What does that have to do with mastin's alignment?

Your "but then" and "of course this blah blah id possible" kinda posts ring town to me.

A bile bomb depends on if L4D2 flavor would make it into this game or not.

Left 4 Dead Mafia!

I see both titles.

[sekai no ki]

I don't know if others were around. But as I said, I did know that pieguy was around after the time role PMs were sent.
By semi-serious, I guess it's more on non-serious side. I was basically trolling fery with it but I did have a minor lingering suspicion there.

If I had taken your suspicion seriously, I would have pointed out that Venmar didn't cc the role pm to my main account. I didn't confirm until I noticed the game thread was up.

[Zdenek]

You're guilty of very asymmetrical scum hunting here.

So I can't say I don't like your posts as a whole simply because one post in the bunch is ok?

No, I think you are calling me scum for something that many people are doing.

[Thor665]

Vote: Alpakahazard

I don't even remember where my vote was previously and am too lazy to look. Was I still on Chessball? My vain hope dream of scumhunting crushed because people are wimpsacks? I think that was it.
Pretty much I want to do this or mastin right now.

Let's speed lynch him.

[GuyInFreezer]

VOTE: Alphazard

[Toogeloo]

You're guilty of very asymmetrical scum hunting here.

So I can't say I don't like your posts as a whole simply because one post in the bunch is ok?

No, I think you are calling me scum for something that many people are doing.

Yours is what stuck to me. Don't be butt hurt. No one else's spotty posting has pinged my radar in the same manner. It's Day 1, gut rules, and you hurt my gut.

[GuyInFreezer]

Then again no one remembers me either so.

I do!
You're p town to me just like the big bird.

[GuyInFreezer]

Im going to go insane if I have to read ffery myself.

Why?

[Thor665]

@Toog - wanna sheep me? No one cares about your Zdenek side debate right now and that wagon isn't going to get any traction right now, meanwhile I've got something fresh, new, and exciting to get on - you can hop in on the ground floor now. No free cookies though, I ate them all myself.

[Thor665]

Random thought - I want to do another audio mafia and have ffery participate in it so I can hear him say his username out loud.

[GuyInFreezer]

her*

[Svenskt Stål]

and she has a horrible stance on skype mafia

alp wagon is cool but i am going to #rebel and stay on vbezok

[GuyInFreezer]

GIF is town
I'll go BBmolla town, mastin town

post

this entire post feels forced. none of it seems like it's coming from an angle of trying to figure anything out

vote rubicon

He OMGUSed mastin with only 3 voets on him and still in RVS. That seems like scum over-reacting.

this feels like flow-going. anything else you have to say?

Zdenek is town as shit

Bulbazak, you don't feel confident or aggressive because Mastin called you an a-hole?

No, she called me an a-hole awhile ago. I've been reevaluating how I tackle games, since my town win-rate is abysmal. I just feel out of my depth atm.

seems genuine. Bulba is probably town

I hate how Rubicon's reaction to his wagon was to just blatantly ignore it

ok I can't take it anymore Aegor is town as shit

You are reading the mod's info in the most rose-colored way possible if you believe scum won't be given at least one if not more tools to influence the horde.

There is no indication what so ever that scum would have any influence.

First off, people with the Horde Mentality have to pick three names. Of these three names, the host randomly ousts two of them. Then he tallies the names up and the one with the most gets killed. It's practically random in and of itself.

Everyone with the Horde Mentality could put "Toogeloo" down as one of their choices, but if I get ousted from every list, I am not dying. It's just too random of a situation to think that scum would have a power to influence it at this stage.

And furthermore, even if you believe that scum have a way to manipulate the horde, why are you condoning actually giving them more information to work with in order to better utilize said ability?

^probably town? it seems like a genuine attempt to figure shit out and his assumption about the mechanic, while I disagree, seems like smth town would do

what's about it?

TOWN

Chessball====3
Alpazard
Bulbazak
Zdenek
BBmolla
Toogeloo is vanilla town
GIF
Rubicon

MEDIUM RARE

Sven's vezok vote is pretty good.
sekai is townish.
Thor starts bad but posts 175 and 176 aren't cranky, so probtown.
mastin2

SCUM PILE FOR SORTING

ActionDan may be buttering me up.
AngryPidgeon
Peregrine is nervous that I'll catch him being scum again, I have fried his brain.
Aegor
vezok

explain Alpazard, Rubicon, Peregrine, Aegor


anyway
town: GIF, BBmolla, Aegor, Zdenek
null-town: mastin, Toog, Bulba

scum: Rubicon, vezok

vote: Rubicon

wagon ahoy

@AP:

what exactly is your read on mastin?

what's about 53? I don't see it 0.0

and is that the only reason you have him as null-scum? bc I didn't see you bring up any other posts of his. if not, can you elaborate plz

so I assume you don't wanna tell me what the problem with 53 is?

I wanna know cause it seemed like a typical mastin post to me, but this is the first time I'm trying to do a personal read on mastin so idk how much I should actually trust said read

These are probably pie posts (noting)
Dunno if he posted more than this though

[sekai no ki]

Random thought - I want to do another audio mafia and have ffery participate in it so I can hear him say his username out loud.

fer-ihlt, slight emphasis on the 2nd syllable.

[sekai no ki]

@GiF I think those posts are it. We're overdue a synch.

[Thor665]

and she has a horrible stance on skype mafia

alp wagon is cool but i am going to #rebel and stay on vbezok

Why?