Left 4 Dead Mafia! (Game Over!)

[GuyInFreezer]

In post 625, GuyInFreezer wrote:
It didn't look forced to be "hur hur gimme towncred" posts.


In post 40, Toogeloo wrote:
Guess I better bus.

Unvote;
Vote: Aegor



In context, this is unquestionably a towncred fish. Click the link, read back from the page before.

I read those when I was hyperactive. I didn't feel any "I wanna towncred" feel on those posts. It just looked smooth and natural, as in town-natural.

[GuyInFreezer]

What's with me sniping pagetop for past 3 pages without trying?

[GuyInFreezer]

Lol fuck you Ap you are probably fkn scum your case on me is "o he has easy targets" what the fuck is that shit and why are they easy no one is even moving their votes to them

In case ppl are doubting pidgey town

What's so town about this?

First of all it is too blatant of a scum move to outright OMGUS him at this point.
Second of all the frustration looks real even though I personally think it's bit too early.

[Zdenek]

RedCoyote, could you explain how you decided on the positions of Alpazard, Sven, SC, Peregine and BB in your ordering?

[Majiffy]

I read those when I was hyperactive. I didn't feel any "I wanna towncred" feel on those posts. It just looked smooth and natural, as in town-natural.

Maybe you should read them again, then. In context. And see how much of an obvious credgrab it was.

Lol fuck you Ap you are probably fkn scum your case on me is "o he has easy targets" what the fuck is that shit and why are they easy no one is even moving their votes to them

In case ppl are doubting pidgey town

What's so town about this?

First of all it is too blatant of a scum move to outright OMGUS him at this point.
Second of all the frustration looks real even though I personally think it's bit too early.

Ok first of all too scummy to be scum is not a real defense.
Second of all scum can be frustrated for being caught herp derp da herp berp kerp.

[BBmolla]

Dopog asking questions and not following through is bleh.

PV is the lurker scum

Idk yet on RC

Alpazard seems kinda town

SweatingChess I can't read

vezok is probably town, scum probably were pushing his mislynch

I think Toog is scum

AD is town?

Aegor is town

Bulba is town

I can't read Thor but if I had to guess at this point I'd say town

I think Pidgey is the big name scum but my read is messed up because he seems kind of like a douche nozzle and he's scum reading me so I'm not putting much money on this read

NC seems town

Rubicon is still scummy

I don't know about Majiffy. I just like him cause he's reading me correctly if I'm being perfectly honest :\ I get the scumreads on him, he's not being his "fuck you I'm majiffy" like normal

I don't know about mastin2, literally same thing as majiffy where they're reading me correctly. The "i'm trying to play differently" could be reactionary to some of the players in this game who know mastin's meta pretty good.

(I don't think mastin and Majiffy are scum together)

I think Zdenek is town

Sven is gut scum

I think sekai is town

I think GIF is town

I can't read AP and have auto assumed he's town

[BBmolla]

My day 1 reads are consistently terrible as I've come to notice. I'll solve the game day 3 if I don't get mislynched before then. But then I'll doubt myself day 4 onwards and lose.

[AngryPidgeon]

Do you remember this post?

I'm a little wary about townreading the hell out of redcoyote again on the basis of an awesome catch-up post.

Yes. I never said I was reading RC for making an awesome catchup wall. I did actually read and parse the contents of it. He feels notably different IMO.

[GuyInFreezer]

I read those when I was hyperactive. I didn't feel any "I wanna towncred" feel on those posts. It just looked smooth and natural, as in town-natural.

Maybe you should read them again, then. In context. And see how much of an obvious credgrab it was.

Lol fuck you Ap you are probably fkn scum your case on me is "o he has easy targets" what the fuck is that shit and why are they easy no one is even moving their votes to them

In case ppl are doubting pidgey town

What's so town about this?

First of all it is too blatant of a scum move to outright OMGUS him at this point.
Second of all the frustration looks real even though I personally think it's bit too early.

Ok first of all too scummy to be scum is not a real defense.
Second of all scum can be frustrated for being caught herp derp da herp berp kerp.

Then I guess it's different opinion stuff then.

Ok let me rephrase myself
What he did is town frustration.

[Majiffy]

[AngryPidgeon]

What he did is town frustration.

[sekai no ki]

Do you remember this post?

I'm a little wary about townreading the hell out of redcoyote again on the basis of an awesome catch-up post.

Yes. I never said I was reading RC for making an awesome catchup wall. I did actually read and parse the contents of it. He feels notably different IMO.

Ok. good.

How do you feel about this part of Mastin's reply?

And if you think that being semi-serious in the RVS is a scumtell for me or for anyone, you can go straight to hell because that's a fundamental scumhunting technique that I've used even when I was a VI in 2009. It's carried over throughout my games over the years, and likely influenced other players to act similarly. (For instance, AP's posting in Anything Goes started out semi-seriously. He was not entirely serious...yet he was not entirely joking, either. It was a mid-way between the two, scumhunting in his own unique way.)

It raised a flag in pieguy's mind. I'm wondering if you see a similar issue.

[Zdenek]

You're guilty of very asymmetrical scum hunting here.

So I can't say I don't like your posts as a whole simply because one post in the bunch is ok?

No, I think you are calling me scum for something that many people are doing.

Yours is what stuck to me. Don't be butt hurt. No one else's spotty posting has pinged my radar in the same manner. It's Day 1, gut rules, and you hurt my gut.

That was really your cue to talk about one of these other people.

[AngryPidgeon]

How do you feel about this part of Mastin's reply?

I disliked his comparison to my RVS approach in Anything Goes mafia.

Hes right that I was being semi-serious, but I often get good reads from P1. Mastin's post in that game made me so I pursued it, mostly seriously.

I certainly didn't call somebody obvious-town who had yet to post and then backpedal over the inherent seriousness of my statement.

[AngryPidgeon]

I miss Bacde. nobody P1 scumclaims as well as that troll : (

[GuyInFreezer]

I miss Bacde. nobody P1 scumclaims as well as that troll : (

Also this guy did it better.

Hey look we actually agree on something

[AngryPidgeon]

http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.ph ... 9#p4772429
^ Imma let you finish, but this is the greatest scum claim ever posted.

[mastin2]

Lol fuck you Ap you are probably fkn scum your case on me is "o he has easy targets" what the fuck is that shit and why are they easy no one is even moving their votes to them

Okay. pidgey's town. Abort pressure wagon plan.

The "i'm trying to play differently" could be reactionary to some of the players in this game who know mastin's meta pretty good.

Screw that. As scum, know what I do in order to try and manipulate players I know? Play to their expectations of a town-me. Experimenting with breaking from a scum-me never works. Obfuscating scumplay by acting differently is--by its very nature--going to backfire.

How do you feel about this part of Mastin's reply?

And if you think that being semi-serious in the RVS is a scumtell for me or for anyone, you can go straight to hell because that's a fundamental scumhunting technique that I've used even when I was a VI in 2009. It's carried over throughout my games over the years, and likely influenced other players to act similarly. (For instance, AP's posting in Anything Goes started out semi-seriously. He was not entirely serious...yet he was not entirely joking, either. It was a mid-way between the two, scumhunting in his own unique way.)

It raised a flag in pieguy's mind. I'm wondering if you see a similar issue.

It was the scummiest part of the reply. It was badly worded. I knew it was badly worded. I knew it was something people would scumread me for. But rather than being a case of "screw that, I'm posting it anyway", in this case it was just that I couldn't think of a non-scummy way to say it, but I needed to say it anyway. (...Okay. I guess that is sorta 'screw that, post regardless' anyway.) It hit a very sensitive note. I couldn't let it go unsaid, even though it would have been easier to have left it gone unsaid.

I certainly didn't call somebody obvious-town who had yet to post and then backpedal over the inherent seriousness of my statement.

There was no backpedaling. My stance never changed. Look at my early posting. And I dare you to tell me that it's either serious or joking. Knowing me as a person, not just some random girl. Tell me that I was not serious. Or tell me that I was completely, 100%, dead-and-entirely-serious on every single thing I said. Can't do it with a straight face? Yeah, because that actually WOULD be something completely and entirely not-me. (In hindsight, I shoulda done that, rather than the semi-serious-meant-to-look-serious. Woulda been entirely foreign. Ah, well. Next game.)

[Majiffy]

http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.ph ... 9#p4772429
^ Imma let you finish, but this is the greatest scum claim ever posted.

Subtlety is the true master.

[dopog]

Oh #663 was pretty g

@AP: Is the redcoyote rather town read "mostly" gut? Reagardless can you explain it because I'm not guaging the confidence of your reads, even if you have the sections?

@BBmolla: If you're referring to the rubicon question I went at it in the downtime lost posts but dunno if @rubicon replied? Also where are you getting zdenek town from?

@sekai: What are your reads on thor, actiondan and PV? And what changed your read on rubicon?

Might head off now cyaaa

[GuyInFreezer]

http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.ph ... 9#p4772429
^ Imma let you finish, but this is the greatest scum claim ever posted.

I was in that game. How did I miss that post?
Oh yeah I replaced in as scumslot.

[GuyInFreezer]

Hey sekai who are you voting

[Zdenek]

I'm pretty dang certain that this is a town-RC.

How did you get to this?

[mastin2]

How did you get to this?

Because, like AP, I read the wall in its entirety, and it comes from a town-RC, not a scum-RC. (Begrudgingly.) It's the same him from Walking Dead.

[Zdenek]

How did you get to this?

Because, like AP, I read the wall in its entirety, and it comes from a town-RC, not a scum-RC. (Begrudgingly.) It's the same him from Walking Dead.

I read it in its entirety and then I got to his list, but we'll see what comes of that.