Mini 1550 - Mean Girls Mafia: The Burn Blog -- Game Over!

[Hanzo_5]

Candillan my play has been sound the entire game. Albeit its a bit rigid but you can clearly tell that I only have town intent in what I do and say. Nothing points to me being scum other than my miller claim! And if thats the case I could have gotten by as far as I have without it. Now give some serious answers to who we should shoot and kill!

Or just shoot me now. I voted for scum so i can die a happy man at this point.

[PrivateI]

Two vigs-one 13P game? That seems plausible...I don't think that the Mafia would be given a Dayvig, so I would like to see the claim proven by having Candy make the kill for today. If it is true, I could almost go for a Neil lynch, but the whole thing seems weird. Like, the whole game.

PEDIT: Marquis, both town and scum are incredibly powerful this game. I would buy it. And why does Bomb not seem real? Hypothetically, if we have a third party in Neil, a bomb would be incredibly useful.

[Hanzo_5]

I think we should vote to shoot the player who everyone is most unsure about their alignment. Also my name is Hanzo_5. Candillan, I expect you to spell it that way from now on.

PEdit:PI is the paragon of towniness this game. Its almost disgusting.

[PrivateI]

*Candi

I forgot.

[Candillan]

Two vigs-one 13P game? That seems plausible...I don't think that the Mafia would be given a Dayvig, so I would like to see the claim proven by having Candy make the kill for today. If it is true, I could almost go for a Neil lynch, but the whole thing seems weird. Like, the whole game.

PEDIT: Marquis, both town and scum are incredibly powerful this game. I would buy it. And why does Bomb not seem real? Hypothetically, if we have a third party in Neil, a bomb would be incredibly useful.

I'll gladly make a kill, though I'm not completely sure where the bullet should go. Any thoughts?

I think we should vote to shoot the player who everyone is most unsure about their alignment. Also my name is Hanzo_5. Candillan, I expect you to spell it that way from now on.

PEdit:PI is the paragon of towniness this game. Its almost disgusting.

In that case it's //literally// just an extra lynch.
Abbreviating your name to Hanzo ≠ you misspelling my name "Candilian". Don't be petty.

[Hanzo_5]

I know its not the same but I am trying to be passive aggressive and exert some time so control over you so that I can get you to do my bidding. Its already happening dont resist me!
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All joking aside. Are you open to us voting for it? I know if I was vig I would have shot long ago and I would have shot marquis.

[Candillan]

Well I definitely wasn't going to shoot someone that hadn't claimed first. (RE: Hiplop, and my reaction to his hammer)

I'm open to voting for it.
VOTE: Neil

[Marquis]

Candi, shoot Mhork.

If Loved is town, it's useless now anyway.

If it's scum, which I think makes more sense, it... well, removes scum.

[Candillan]

How is it useless now?

[Marquis]

scum knows about it if he's town, so it can't be used to deflect a quickhammer

really the only thing it's good for now is letting scum get away in lylo

[Egg]

Can, Hanzo isn't scum. He made a logical assumption and illogically ran with it rather than discussing it.

Reck's claim (which makes sense) along with my role and vezok's flip are all making me wonder about this setup. But whatever.

Marq, chances are if you are scum you aren't also a JK so the arguement that scum would be overpowered is no bueno. However, Bob stole your vote soooo....eh. It's possible he was gambitting but occam's razor and all. I dunno.

I think Can should shoot when massclaim is done. Up to him who. I wouldn't shoot Hanzo though. Pretty sure he's town.

Preview edit: it makes no sense for neil to be scum. Like I said before, someone else would have to be hiding the fact that they are a town neighbor. Mhork is a decent choice though for a shot.

[Egg]

Oh and I'm Kevin G. My watcher ability is from stalking girls.

[neil1113]

Wait, why the hell would I be mafia (or SK) and out my mafia neighbor last night by killing him? As SK, wouldn't that pretty much bury me?

Also, as an SK, why would I claim 1 shot? With a watcher / tracker / unclaimed power roles in this game, if I went out more than one night, wouldn't that bury me as well?

Please give me more credit as an SK. I promise, I play a hell of a lot better of a SK game than that.

Also speaking figurative, I suppose a Mhork kill today (so we don't waste the day) might be the best bet. As Marquis pointed out, his ability is useless and (seeing his play) dangerous.

Egg being scum makes no sense to me why they would gambit so big so early on in the game? While, it also doesn't make a whole lot of sense that you'd be able to see a Ninja Roleblock. Though using a different definition of ninja (one who could kill ninja style, but roleblock not so much) makes a lot more sense than scum gambiting (and basically forcing one of them to take the ropes) so early on...

[Lord Mhork]

Still obvious town loved townie. Still Regina George. Still very town.

Whoever is telling the DayVig to shoot me is an idiot. Scum have to waste a shot on me before LyLo which is good for town.

[Candillan]

UNVOTE:
So people on the "might catch the bullet" list:

Mhork
Reck
Egg
Hanzo


They're in no particular order, they're just the only people that make sense possibly.

Reck/Egg because Tracker/Watcher //both// being town is kinda unlikely.
Hanzo because that's a personal read. Mhork because Marquis' points make sense.

[Lord Mhork]

It's an awful shot. I promise. You're just hitting town that mafia is forced to kill

[neil1113]

Actually I think Mhork as the shot would work super well. Regina as the Godfather makes a lot more sense after rewatching the movie.

If every scum has a power role, why not the Godfather? Loved seems like a great role to give too. http://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?title=Loved shows that it can (and has) ran both ways before, pro-town and anti-town. The fact that it does not die at lylo or mylo, but rather keeps going makes me think it would be pro-scum not pro-town. Why would we automatically assume it is pro-town? Think about it, besides Kat, Mhork pushed with all his might that it was a pro-town alignment and even acted shocked that it could be the other way around. It was a great ruse...

[Marquis]

uncomfortable with neil agreeing with my plan

time to find a new one

[Lord Mhork]

Neil that is so wrong I can't even describe.

FLAVOR SPEC IS NOT HOW YOU SCUM HUNT

[xRECKONERx]

1. Bicephalous Bob:

Mafia Neighbor Vote Remover/Adder

11. Rubicon:

Mafia Ninja 3-Shot Roleblocker

12. vezokpiraka:

2-Shot Cop

5. hiplop:

Vanilla Townie

6. Katarina LeBlanc:

1-Shot Governor

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2. Candillan: 1-Shot Dayvig
3. Egg: 1-Shot Watcher; Watched Vezok N1
4. Hanzo_5: 1-Shot Miller Commuter; Commuted N1
7. Lord Mhork: Loved Townie
8. Marquis: ?-shot Jailkeeper; targeted Rubicon N1
9. neil1113: 1-Shot Vig Neighbor
10. PrivateI: Bomb
13. xRECKONERx: 1-Shot Delayed Tracker; tracked PrivateI nowhere N1

Something doesn't fit here. Like, at all.

Marquis isn't going to be a scum JK if scum already had a roleblocker; however, nobody has confirmed being jailkept by her, have they?
PrivateI is town as far as I'm concerned; he went nowhere N1 and then claimed Bomb, and his play makes sense.
neil is a neighbor who shot scum, I don't want him lynched today. Will reconsider if game continues after another mafia is dead.
Candillan is a dayvig and can confirm his ability. Would not put it past the mod to give scum a dayvig with this much town power but for now let's leave that option off the table.


Kill Pool:
Egg
Hanzo
Mhork
Marquis

Strangely enough, out of that pool, I think I do prefer Egg or Marquis. Hanzo's reaction to what he interpreted as me knowing he had an extra ability seems town. Marquis is an outside shot at being mafia who just fakeclaimed JK and is actually some other role, since she isn't ability confirmed in the slightest. Mhork is supposedly a Loved Townie which means if he's telling the truth then mafia have to waste a shot on him before LYLO or else they can't really win. Egg and Marquis both have the highest chances of being scum after the clusterfuck with Rubicon D2.

Although, since the mod went out of his way to confirm the roleblocker resolution thing, I think Marquis is probably telling the truth.

I say we have Candillan shoot Egg, here. He's the oddest-man-out.

[xRECKONERx]

Another alternative is that the mod went 9:4 instead of 10:3 but I'd be very surprised if that was the case.

Thinking on the Egg situation with the ninja, it makes sense that the mod wouldn't confirm "a ninja cannot be watched or tracked at all" because he'd basically be damning Egg to his death.

BUT WHY WOULD EGG CLAIM THAT KNOWING THAT RUBICON WAS A NINJA UGH

It makes my brain hurt. I dunno. I'd be fine with any of the four listed above, actually. I think we just get Candillan to shoot at least one of them since none of them are ability confirmed.

[xRECKONERx]

My preference is probably...

Egg > Mhork > Hanzo > Marquis

I just can't stomach that Marquis was vote removed two days in a row as some elaborate gambit. Or that she would claim JK against her buddy who is a Ninja. Aughghg.

[Marquis]

nah, we're not killing conftown egg. or rather conftown-as-much-as-i'm-conftown egg.

no.

candi kills mhork or PI

[neil1113]

So Reck, you buy the Egg - Rubicon gambit? I think that's extremely ballsy, but if Egg dying clears up most of the confusion for the other town, then so be it. You never know I guess?

Actually I can clear this up with Mhork quickly, if he's town or scum.

Mhork, what's your town win condition flavor?

[Marquis]

oh my god