Left 4 Dead Mafia! (Game Over!)

[SweatingChessball3]

AP is guaranteed scum in the bag.

I've only just looked at Majiffy now.

[AngryPidgeon]

A scumbird in the hand..

[BBmolla]

UNVOTE:
VOTE: PV

[ActionDan]

A scumbird in the hand..

how many birds are in this game

[AngryPidgeon]

3 PV and pidgey are scumbirds in the bush

[Svenskt Stål]

Spoiler:

dopog

[Svenskt Stål]

VOTE: dopog

lol

fuck its early

[sekai no ki]

Except you never went into depth about what you didn't like. Mastin figured it out herself and explained it, and even then, you go full tilt at attacking her for something that is actually a null reason.

this is blatantly false. ffery told everyone what I didn't like before mastin said anything about it. and even then she didn't explain shit and just said "herp derp that was the scummiest part of the reply. oh well"

what she said was in no way a response to any concern I had. like really? is it a coincidence that the part I dislike so happens to be the scummiest part of the post?

the thing with this is I pegged the fuck out of mastin for this same thing (abrasiveness/forcefulness) before. mastin KNOWS this and so if she's scum she knows I'd peg her for the same thing here. so the fact that she "explained" it means fuck all considering if she's scum she already knew what I was going to do

Your reasoning is bad. I'm showing why it's bad, and I'm saying if you want to prove that town Mastin doesn't do this, then you better provide examples from some town games.

And can you please be consistent regarding your scum reads? Is Mastin scum, or am I scum WKing Mastin? You can't have it both ways.

again, right back at you. you were saying scum-mastin's tone is way different than it is here but you didn't link any scumgames and instead said this was more in line with his towngames. you're drawing parallels to his towngame, I'm drawing parallels to his scumgame. this is the problem. you're asking me to prove shit without actually doing anything about it yourself and it feels like scum busywork to shut down my mastin push

also I'm not trying to figure out the whole damn puzzle at once. whenever I try that it doesn't work. you're scummy, so I'm pushing you. in this case, idgaf about mastin's actions in relation to yours, although your actions make sense from a scum POV regardless of mastin's alignment (either you're WK'ing him or defending him as a scum partner)

this angle about "consistency" is the easiest angle for scum to push to try to discredit suspicion and I'm inclined to think you're scum for it. why don't you try directly addressing my points instead of attempting to use "you're inconsistent" as a defense?

Saying someone is scum because they want to policy lynch is a cheap attack, especially for someone who is supposedly as experienced at the game like you're professing.

another misrep. I never said that, I said Aegor might be scum bc I got the feeling he was trying to slip through the cracks. I'm looking at the people who are just coasting by bc I have townreads on just about all the active players besides mastin. wanting a PL has literally NOTHING TO DO WITH IT

and why are you putting words in my mouth? I said other people seem to think I'm a good player for some reason (even though I'm really not), not that I actually am. you're twisting my words around to suit your arguments

I don't think that's the case at all. I think town's doing a very good job this game of coming together, and if that's the case, being lurking scum in a game with a unified town is very dangerous. I expect we'll have a very good town block by the end of the day, which means that it'll be very easy to find and lynch scum.

so you read my response about Aegor slipping through the cracks, made this response indicating you read and understood my point, and then claimed I was scumreading him for wanting to PL someone? this feels like an intentional misrep, but ffery tells me you tunnel for weird shit so

How he plays should be obvious enough. He's playing very similar to Rainbowdash (Hence why I gave the example.), in that he is scumhunting, but is also interested in making sure town doesn't have to deal with players that could drag it down. Even if you didn't know that, you should know enough not to attack for those reasons.

and why do you assume I know how Rainbowdash plays? I've only had one game with him, I was in a hydra and everyone was inactive as fuck (and we got replaced after D2). even if you've meta'd me, you should know this

you literally had no reason to make that assumption. you're trying to just write off my points against you by making shit up and twisting my words around without trying to understand any of them

Because your points are bad! If you are town you should feel bad for the bad reasoning you're using. Aggression is not a scumtell! Frustration is not a scumtell! Policy lynching is not a freaking scum tell! And there was no you turning up the heat. Mastin has been suspected all game, so you being nitpicky about something so stupid was not going to do a darn thing. And furthermore, she had already answered you, BEFORE you even posted that paragraph of crap! It was a non-issue, it was crap reasoning, and it was doing absolutely nothing!

nice misrep. where have I ever said any of those are scumtells?

[AngryPidgeon]

^ #scumposting

[AngryPidgeon]

all I could find about mastin was that you're gut-zoning her. is there anything specific to it?

You seem to not get the meaning of gut zone.
I did point to the last part of the last wall post where she hinted at having pocket Aces in the hole. Read town to me. Did not read like a bluff.

Vezok is meh leaning towards hmm. I thought his early posts were scummy. Mastin assures me this looks town from him so meh. Hm. Would Wagon over sven. Probably over majiffy but hmm.

[vezokpiraka]

DGB comes in and gains some scummy points. She is voting AP, but says Majiffy is scum and will wagon maybe. What she's doing is basically leaving options open until she decides to jump on the wagon.

Also Alpacazard might be scum seeing Sven counterwagon rising up again.

[Svenskt Stål]

DGB comes in and gains some scummy points. She is voting AP, but says Majiffy is scum and will wagon maybe. What she's doing is basically leaving options open until she decides to jump on the wagon.

Also Alpacazard might be scum seeing Sven counterwagon rising up again.

could be, but i think both of the latest votes on me ( peregrinev and LOLbulba) are voting me personal reasons mixed in

Alp has been split lead wagon for some time now and that has got us nothing, i think that is more likely town not careing than scum frozen.

we have more than a week left, i´d like some pressure on lurkers please

[AngryPidgeon]

DGB comes in and gains some scummy points. She is voting AP, but says Majiffy is scum and will wagon maybe. What she's doing is basically leaving options open until she decides to jump on the wagon.

Also Alpacazard might be scum seeing Sven counterwagon rising up again.

Mastin why are you to en reading this so much. Are you REALLY sure about this one?

[Majiffy]

I'm trying my wall catchup method bc I'm too far behind. come at me bros

And on that day, not a single link was clicked.

Welcome to the party jiffy, i only want to mason if you are town, can you convince me pretty please brah?

Sure. I'm town. Convinced?

red equals no. i dont care if mastin is fucking howling at the top of his lungs or how much life his walls sucks out of me, he puts in work and he is a good player, very very bad day 1 lynch

This is always a shit argument and I love it when people don't lynch me as scum for this.

The first post illustrates how Majiffy says that his aggressiveness or lack of it is not a tell.
Then as a self conscious scum he starts getting very aggressive to the point of calling someone a pussy.
This thing strikes me the wrong way.
This is what I can put into words right now.

The pussy post was clearly an obvious joke.

God you are such a scumbutt.

Unvote

Vote Majiffy

I'm more sure about this one.

Go on.

Vote: Sven

Sven is town. Move your vote to Vezok.

ignored because, #lolbulba

I know he's an idiot, but stop being anti-town.

I like Sven's posts more than mastin's, for the record.

snip

I

really

want you to die.


VOTE: Majiffy

This 30-page meta discussion is both incredibly boring and totally opaque to me, so I probably will never re-read it.

You really want Mastin to die but you're voting me.

I'll let you think on that for a moment.

[Majiffy]

Updated reads.
{Toogeloo,

Sekai no Ki

, Mastin2,

Vezokpiraka

,

Pidgey

,

dopog

}
{Bulbazak,

Svenskt Stål,

Rubicon,

BBMolla

}

[Majiffy]

Oh yeah Zdenek is town too

[Svenskt Stål]

what does your updated reads mean?

is it a town pile? cuz i would be offended with being bunched up with the likes of dopog, vezok and pidgey

[Majiffy]

No those are the scumbutts. Hence the two bracketed groups.

Do try and keep up, Sven.

[Svenskt Stål]

so what does that make me?

i dont understand

[Majiffy]

You're part of the town group with Molla, Rubi, Zdenek and Bulba.

[GuyInFreezer]

I probably need a reset for this game

[insert "OMGBACKPEDALLINGSCUM" here]
dw the stuff will make its way to here whenever I have a motivation to wall.

[sekai no ki]

Amalgamated Reads.

Each player is listed in the highest grouping that one of us has them as. The other head's read is noted. The list is not seriatim.

TOWNTOWNTOWN

GIF
Zdenek

Town

RedCoyote - fferyllt has him in "maybe town"
Rubicon
BBMolla - fferyllt has him in "maybe town"
Pidgey
AngryPidgeon - pieguyn has him in "maybe town"
Svenskt - pieguyn has him in "maybe town"
Majiffy - pieguyn has him in "can't read"
Pidgey - fferyllt has him in "maybe town"

Maybe Town

SweatingChessball
Aegor
ActionDan
dopog
Nero Cain
Bulbazak - pieguy has him in "not so town"
Mastin - pieguyn has her in "not so town"
Thor - neither of us are very confident we can read him at all, and would have created a hellifino pile but atm Thor would be the only inhabitant of that pile. ffery think Thor looks less manipulative than he did in WD.

Not So Town

Vezok - ffery's townlean wore off
PeregrineV
Alpazard

[GuyInFreezer]

Alpazard still needs death.
Town-Alpa(notsci) would've gone "LET'S GO THEN *self-vote*" when I (and Thor) asked for wagon on him.

[GuyInFreezer]

At least, with that kind of "I'm obvtown" attitude.

[Svenskt Stål]

Alpazard still needs death.
Town-Alpa(notsci) would've gone "LET'S GO THEN *self-vote*" when I (and Thor) asked for wagon on him.

lol

i have played alot of skype mafia and notscience as scum will go "vote me i am scum" and then self vote AS SCUM

his forum game might differ but i would not sum up what you describe as a town tell