Newbie 1476 - Game Over

[Not_Mafia]

Hmmm, the pressure is actually producing results

UNVOTE: burn
VOTE: Zivel

[goodmorning]

VOTE: Zivel

choo choo

ughhhh fine

Vote: Zivel

Zivel is still Town but this wagon is the least offensive thus far.

Still don't see what you see from Joker, though I think I'm willing to trust you for now on that one.

Who other than Zivel again? And what was that case? And what makes you so sure burn's AtE is Town?

The reason I'm townreading Joker is along the lines of why I'm townreading you.

The reason I'm townreading burn is due to his AtE flipout.

So let me get this straight, you suddenly changed your read on GM from scum to town with no explanation. You cant give an explanation because of something you will not tell us.

He didn't tell you why I was Scum either. It's only fair.

But seriously. You should probably leave it alone.

Your town read on Burn is based on these facts about GM that you cannot tell us and now the town read you have on Joker is along the lines of this secret read you have that you cannot tell us?

No, his townread on burn is based on AtE. His townread on Joker is similar to his townread on me and probably both aren't full of shit.

Ughhhh

notsci

zivel is townnnnn

[notscience]

Oh I invite you to bring it on because nothing brings me more pleasure than a case from scum

Case from me ocming later

[notscience]

Oh I invite you to bring it on because nothing brings me more pleasure than a case from scum

Case from me ocming later

[notscience]

GM his AtE feels town

Granted I do have flashbacks to lastgame as of recent so we might be able to wagon burn if you ask nicely

[notscience]

Also part of me is worry I'm interpreting it one way when instead it's another

If you get what I mean

[Not_Mafia]

Can we wagon burn pretty please

[goodmorning]

Ehhhh I'd like to do burn after Luca. I think he might be Town but it's not for the AtE.

[Luca Blight]

GM, one of your main arguments against me earlier was that I was 'sheeping' NS for voting you (which was clearly incorrect as I pointed out) and here you are clearly sheeping him both on voting Zivel and on 'trusting' his opinion that Joker is Town.

You seem convinced that Zivel is Town yet have voted for him because NS has. Btw, using your buzzword argument from earlier, I could just as easily claim that 'sheeping' is a buzzword, which must make you scum, using your logic.

Another thing I'd like to throw out there, I don't like how you seem to buddy Not_Mafia at times - you keep overly agreeing with his posts and saying 'ilu NM' or something along those lines, which also doesn't sit right with me. I get accused of having a 'convenient opinion' for agreeing with these guys, yet here you are blatantly doing so yourself.

[notscience]

Oh, shit

I think I see it now

[Graeyfurredmutt]

Time to examine zivel for me it looks like.

[Not_Mafia]

Luca looking scummier after that post that was somewhat misrepping, still don't see him as a good lynch for today though

[Luca Blight]

Luca looking scummier after that post that was somewhat misrepping, still don't see him as a good lynch for today though

Explain how; I was merely reversing her own logic back on her.

Her arguments against me were for sheeping NS, using buzzwords and having 'convenient reads' and I merely reversed that back on to her. Surely she must have 'misrepped' me first?

[goodmorning]

GM, one of your main arguments against me earlier was that I was 'sheeping' NS for voting you (which was clearly incorrect as I pointed out) and here you are clearly sheeping him both on voting Zivel and on 'trusting' his opinion that Joker is Town.

You seem convinced that Zivel is Town yet have voted for him because NS has. Btw, using your buzzword argument from earlier, I could just as easily claim that 'sheeping' is a buzzword, which must make you scum, using your logic.

Another thing I'd like to throw out there, I don't like how you seem to buddy Not_Mafia at times - you keep overly agreeing with his posts and saying 'ilu NM' or something along those lines, which also doesn't sit right with me. I get accused of having a 'convenient opinion' for agreeing with these guys, yet here you are blatantly doing so yourself.

1. Once again, sheeping is not quite the word. I'm now coining "springboarding" to describe what you did with notsci. I think the extended metaphor works quite well.
2. I proved that you were doing what I thought you were doing. You keep using the words and not providing the substance to back them up.
3. NotMaf is Town. NotMaf comes up with good points. NotMaf had some nice sass going. I like it.
And hello to "buddying." Thought it was about time for a new one.

Also, you still haven't answered my questions.

[Not_Mafia]

You had expressed some doubts about GM at that point but the vote could be considered opportunistic, that is what she is saying

Also, this Zivel is just another wagon, no harm is pressuring someone you currently have a townread on.

Buddying is a really overused term and it's something that only really works on new players

[Luca Blight]

I was using buddying in an ironic way for the way you said I was 'sheeping' earlier, but I think that is a valid use of it, perhaps you disagree which is fine.

Which questions do you want answering? Bear in mind some of my posts have gone missing which may have covered it.

Quote them and I will get round to it tomorrow, It's 1:13 am where I am now.

[Luca Blight]

You had expressed some doubts about GM at that point but the vote could be considered opportunistic, that is what she is saying

Also, this Zivel is just another wagon, no harm is pressuring someone you currently have a townread on.

Buddying is a really overused term and it's something that only really works on new players

I hadn't even voted for her at that point, I only voted for her after her ridiculous (in my opinion) defence and subsequent attacking of me. It felt like she only attacked me because I questioned her, and she hadn't questioned anyone else at that point so I felt that was a fair vote at the time.

Zivel may be another wagon, but why is it ok for her to jump on this wagon and not me on her's?

You seem to only be seeing this from her point of view.

[Zivel]

Oh I invite you to bring it on because nothing brings me more pleasure than a case from scum

Case from me ocming later

You first, I having been waiting in anticipation.

[goodmorning]

The questions are the same ones I've been harassing you about the entire time, 291. Also 330.

Also,

It's not buzzword scumhunting if you can back it up instead of just spewing the words and hoping they stick.

[serrapaladin]

Cool, so everyone has now checked back in since the crash. Prods received due to the site outage do not count towards the three strike rule for replacements. I believe the missing posts will be back eventually, but I am now going to unfreeze the deadline, since there have been several pages since the crash, everyone is around, and the deadline isn't imminent. The deadline is set at 4 days from now, as reflected in the VC below. I apologise for any confusion about the state of the game, and for any content made redundant by the crash.

OFFICIAL VOTE COUNT 1.14

burn_209 (1) - RachMarie
Luca Blight (1) - Zivel

goodmorning (2) - burn_209, Luca Blight
RachMarie (1) - joker443

Zivel (3) - notscience, Not_Mafia, goodmorning

Not Voting (1) - Graeyfurredmutt,

With 9 alive, it's 5 to lynch.

The deadline for Day 1 is (actually!) in (expired on 2014-03-06 01:59:59).[/area]

[Not_Mafia]

@Luca, I didn't get a scumread off you based on you voting GM. I'm just trying to explain what she is saying, as you seem to be going in circles

[Graeyfurredmutt]

Luca

So GM did you ever explain what you saw as a townslip for Zivel?

[goodmorning]

Yes.

[Not_Mafia]

So GM did you ever explain what you saw as a townslip for Zivel?

its just frustrating that every time I play this game Im always the first days bandwagon or lynch. So Im not going to sit here and argue with people with people who think I am scum but do not explain why or give examples.

This quote just makes me feel that he is not scum, I dont care if he goes, but I feel that he really just wants to play this game, and hates being knocked out early.

I still don't know how you don't see this as a townslip.
"I'm Town and I want to stay in the game, therefore wanting to stay in the game = Town" is how I read it.

[Graeyfurredmutt]

So GM did you ever explain what you saw as a townslip for Zivel?

its just frustrating that every time I play this game Im always the first days bandwagon or lynch. So Im not going to sit here and argue with people with people who think I am scum but do not explain why or give examples.

This quote just makes me feel that he is not scum, I dont care if he goes, but I feel that he really just wants to play this game, and hates being knocked out early.

I still don't know how you don't see this as a townslip.
"I'm Town and I want to stay in the game, therefore wanting to stay in the game = Town" is how I read it.

okay then. I can see what your referring to here. Doesn't feel that strong to me but we all see different things.
VOTE: Luca
Since I think that I failed to do this earlier.
And now to wait for NotScience's case on Zivel