Left 4 Dead Mafia! (Game Over!)

[Aegor]

Soooooooo many people I want dead today. I guess I may just have to NK them.

AP is guaranteed scum in the bag.

I've only just looked at Majiffy now.

And yet, you are still not voting Majiffy? Even though there is close to 0% chance that AP is getting lynched today, not least of all because you have not actually presented any compelling reason that he is scum?

[Majiffy]

Meanwhile, in the world of Aegor...

Hi buddy, how ya doin'?

[Aegor]

Yo

[Majiffy]

Lets go ISO hunting, shall we?

Ctrl+F "Maj"

Hit number 1

Not getting why people are not voting Majiffy.

Hit number 2

I like Sven's posts more than mastin's, for the record.

snip

I

really

want you to die.


VOTE: Majiffy

This 30-page meta discussion is both incredibly boring and totally opaque to me, so I probably will never re-read it.

And hits 3+4 are in the above post.

So where is your "compelling reason" I'm scum?

[Aegor]

Your scumhunting attempts are nonexistent and your posts contain verbal abuse. That is more than enough for me at this time.

[Aegor]

And underscoring both of those is my impression that your posting is not from a town motivation at all.

[Majiffy]

Your scumhunting attempts are nonexistent and your posts contain verbal abuse. That is more than enough for me at this time.

I know this isn't math class, but I'd really like you to show your work.

Like, you know, quotes. Or something.


Take your time. I'll wait.

[Aegor]

You? Making that request? Not going to happen. Probably ever. Definitely not now.

[Majiffy]

You're adorable.

[Majiffy]

So lets see;
You won't offer any examples of my "nonexistent" scumhunting attempts.
You won't explain why abusive behavior is alignment-telling.
And you have 'undertones' (I prefer 'feels') that I'm not town.

Compelling. Very compelling.

[Aegor]

]You won't offer any examples of my "nonexistent" scumhunting attempts.

Do you realize what you are asking? How I can point out examples of something that does not exist? Anyone looking at your ISO will come to the same conclusion I did.

You won't explain why abusive behavior is alignment-telling.

I never said it was.

And you have 'undertones' (I prefer 'feels') that I'm not town.

Correct.

Compelling. Very compelling.

Increasingly so.

[Majiffy]

]You won't offer any examples of my "nonexistent" scumhunting attempts.

Do you realize what you are asking? How I can point out examples of something that does not exist? Anyone looking at your ISO will come to the same conclusion I did.

Then feel free to show all of my posts and explain why there's no attempt to scumhunt.

You won't explain why abusive behavior is alignment-telling.

I never said it was.

You certainly listed it under "reasons Majiffy is scum".
Do you disagree with this?

And you have 'undertones' (I prefer 'feels') that I'm not town.

Correct.

And I'm getting undertones that you're bad at this game.

[SweatingChessball3]

And yet, you are still not voting Majiffy? Even though there is close to 0% chance that AP is getting lynched today, not least of all because you have not actually presented any compelling reason that he is scum?

Are you saying AP is your buddy, and Majiffy is town?

[Majiffy]

Is this the chess or the ball?

[Rubicon]

Aegor is tooooowwwwn.

[Rubicon]

DGB on a scale of yes to very yes how scummy is mastin.

[Rubicon]

So, now, are you going to actually look at the reasons I'm scumreading players, or are you going to just keep living in a fantasy world?

I am looking at the reasons. I'm saying they suck, are piddly, and that I would expect more from you if you were town.

VEZOK LITERALLY SAID WITH 33 PAGES OF CONTENT IN THE GAME THAT I AM THE SCUMMIEST PERSON. WHILE EARLIER ADMITTING THAT HE DOESN'T EVEN HAVE A LEGITIMATE REASON FOR THINKING I AM SCUM. AND HE DID NOT ELABORATE. AND STILL HAS NOT ELABORATED.

IT CAN NOT BE ANY FUCKING CLEARER. JESUS FUCKING CHRIST OPEN YOUR EYES.

Why do you think scum-him did this? I don't understand your previous response to me about him either.

[Majiffy]

Bah, getting late. Off to sleepland.

[Aegor]

Then feel free to show all of my posts and explain why there's no attempt to scumhunt.

LOL

You certainly listed it under "reasons Majiffy is scum".
Do you disagree with this?

I would interpret that posts as reasons why I want you dead.

And I'm getting undertones that you're bad at this game.

It took you that long to notice?

Are you saying AP is your buddy, and Majiffy is town?

VOTE: SweatingChessball3

[Majiffy]

Why do you think scum-him did this? I don't understand your previous response to me about him either.

Did what, failed to elaborate? Because it's a comfy spot to sit his vote, and he's got nothing backing it up. It's not like he's

intentionally

being a scumbutt; he just

is

one.

I don't know what response you're talking about.

[SweatingChessball3]

DGB on a scale of yes to very yes how scummy is mastin.

Would you believe me if I told you I haven't read any of mastin's posts and I'm just faking having an opinion?

[SweatingChessball3]

Actually Majiffy is town.

[mastin2]

The same can be said about Mastin and I. Are we scumbuddies together?

Weeeeeeeelll......

Mostly the last sentence.

Umm...just need to say, I said "obvtown", not some other word you

may

be thinking about, AP.

And frustrating me this game.

Well, you frustrate ME to no end, so it's about time for some revenge......
(But in all seriousness, I'm progressively going to be less frustrating this game.)

help me understand your actions, thats all, your activity and some of your posts i really like, but then you make leaps i dont uderstand that has me hesitant,

i just want to understand

Oi!

This is MY scum tactic! Don't go stealing it, Sven!
(Read that post. Imagine it being written by me. Try figuring out my alignment from it. It theoretically could come from a town-me, but is basically a signature scum move of mine.)

(Page 33 = Sven and sekai are scum together, by the way.)

I

really

want you to die.

Well, I'm already undead, so, wish granted.

so your read on him was entirely BOP?

My gut-reaction-read? Yes.

how in any way was this post intended to tell him to step it up, or reaching out to him to fix said read?

Admittedly, was probably not worded as well as it needed to be, because it was emotionally charged and frustrated.

this also makes it so you don't actually have to respond to anything he's saying which allows you to just sit there and avoid having to take heat for doing anything

Except I responded to everything?

except this means fuck all bc he came up with this AFTER he found out I didn't like it. it seems like an excuse he just made up so he could justify it to me later

If you're scum (you are), congratulations, pie. You're playing to your wincon spectacularly, because you're ticking me off. Severely. I told you not to be doubtful of your abilities. But IF (BIG FREAKIN'

IF

) you were town, you've way. WAY. Overshot it. Into arrogance. If you think. seriously, legitimately. think. That I made that up. in specific response to you. That you think it was an excuse. That you think I was lying. That you think I was giving you so much as a second of thought when typing that. There was none. NONE. And you damn-well know it.


Side-note. But I'm really freakin' sick of people reading me from one or two games of one alignment and assuming that's a trend across all of my games as that alignment. If you read the ACTUAL game rather than reading the game through the lens of previous games, my alignment becomes clear every single time. People make the mistake of townreading me when I'm scum and manipulating my meta. (AP's right. I am fully self-aware of my own trends as both alignments and capable of utterly destroying and/or reversing them.) People frustratingly scumread me when I'm town because I happen to be doing something that resembles one game vaguely in some manner that never crossed my mind--or did, but I said "screw it" and went with it anyway.

I wrote all kinds of guides on it, and all of them say the same dang thing: that's how to meta not just me, but any player, WRONG. Meta's a means to an end. To understand the players. But if you arbitrarily assign alignments to a player off of their past games, you're not reading the current game. You're reading the past games and superimposing them on top of the current game, biasing your read. Read the current game, the current players, the current mindset, the current posting, and use meta only as a means of having some sort of baseline for that mindset.

[5] Alpazard:

GuyInFreezer

, Thor665,

sekai no ki

, Toogeloo, AngryPidgeon
[5] Svenskt Stål: ActionDan, Alpazard, Mastin2, PeregrineV, Bulbazak

The only possible scum name I see on Sven is Dan. All others are town. In constrast, the Apla wagon has both GiF and sekai on it. It is scum-driven.

/34.

[mastin2]

[quote="In post 857, sekai no ki"ffery told everyone what I didn't like before mastin said anything about it.[/quote] Yet you're claiming that there's no way I could have thought it worth commenting on without that. Her post was just the first to bring it up.

and even then she didn't explain shit and just said "herp derp that was the scummiest part of the reply. oh well"

I did anything but that. I explained everything about it, in as much detail as there is. Like, I could put more reasons in, but they'd be BS. I spoke my heart.

I pegged the fuck out of mastin for this same thing (abrasiveness/forcefulness) before.

And I already know it's not a tell, and swear that you've seen it from a town me, too.

^ #scumposting

Indeed. If you don't think the Sven wagon has potential, we can always switch to making a sekai wagon.

Mastin why are you to en reading this so much. Are you REALLY sure about this one?

Not Mastin-gambit sure, but pretty dang close to it.

DGB on a scale of yes to very yes how scummy is mastin.

Scummy but not scum, soooooo, yes.

Would you believe me if I told you I haven't read any of mastin's posts and I'm just faking having an opinion?

>_<
(Yes. I would.)

[GuyInFreezer]

And mastin outs sven as her alt.