Left 4 Dead Mafia! (Game Over!)

[SweatingChessball3]

Alpazard is scum, and AngryPidgeon's buddy.

[SweatingChessball3]

@ActionDan: can't you see that AngryPidgeon is scum?
@Sven: you're voting a townie, stahp.
@NeroCain & RedCoyote: you're voting a townie, stahp.

The two largest wagons are on townies, ie Sven & vezok.

Alpazard wagon looks clean.
PeregrineV is scum. Two scums are presently voting for Sven, who is obvtown: PereV & Alpazard.

[vezokpiraka]

Seriously? You take that as a scum tell?
Either you are a bad at seeing scum tells or you are just flinging mud at me. I believe it's the latter.

Yes I do. Lets break this down so all the 5 year olds can be comprehending it.

Town has no reason to hide their alignment.
Scum do.

I don't think anybody doesn't realize this (feel free to raise your hand in shame if Im wrong).

Majiffy saying you aren't even hiding your alignment anymore is just a cheap potshot that translates to "Vezok is obviously scum guys".

You posting "But why would I have to obscure my alignment" in response to this is just -whiff- right over your head. I have a really hard time believing you got lost in Majiffy's words or otherwise missed thtat he is just calling you a scumbutt offhandedly.

Your response doesn't accomplish anything and it looks like you are trying to imply you are town. And really the only way you are town here is if you really didn't comprehend that Majiffy was calling you scum and had nothing else attached to that statement. I don't think your ass is that dumb, consider this a compliment.

I was saying it in the sense that town doesn't need to hide their alignment so why would I need to hide it?
It might be a second language thing cause in my head it makes sense.

He said: "You aren't trying to hide your alignment"
And I said: "Why would I ever try to do that?"

[sekai no ki]

@AP,

GiF and I have played together several games where our opinions about town and scum notsci were formed. In some cases we were a hydra. In fact, we were a hydra in the game that GiF is citing as an excellent instance of scum-notsci's reaction to a vote.

[AngryPidgeon]

@GIF: What have they even done to make you think they are scum? All I see is you talking about how we need to wagon them for reactions and NotSci saying your read on him is bad and "bite me" and then going back to his V/LA or whatever.

You never actually said when your "lets reaction test Not sci" turned into a "not sci is le scummzorz"

@Vezok: No, I understand exactly. Your response is a roundabout way of saying "I have no need to hide my alignment because I'm town", except you managed to phrase a question out of it to which Majiffy's only response is going to be "because you are scum" which tells you nothing. This sort of thing often comes from scum who want to imply they are town w/o outright saying it (Thor when he rolls scum).

[vezokpiraka]

@Vezok: No, I understand exactly. Your response is a roundabout way of saying "I have no need to hide my alignment because I'm town", except you managed to phrase a question out of it to which Majiffy's only response is going to be "because you are scum" which tells you nothing. This sort of thing often comes from scum who want to imply they are town w/o outright saying it (Thor when he rolls scum).

Oh I see.
I actually asked that question thinking of the follow up: Town don't need to hide their alignment, but you wouldn't know that cause you are scum.
I didn't phrase cause I thought it was obvious.

[AngryPidgeon]

Either way, why do you need majiffy to clarify the obvious?

Dan/DGB could easily be a team.

[AngryPidgeon]

Either way, why do you need majiffy to clarify the obvious?

Dan/DGB could easily be a team.

[Bulbazak]

Why not?

He went from doing nothing to doing something.

He's still refusing to answer questions.

@AP: Why is Dan a weak townread?

[Zdenek]

Probscum:

RedCoyote: his unwillingness to post seems deliberately anti-town. His read on BBmolla (3rd place scum) and the reasons that he gave don't make sense in the context of his other reads.

Pidgey: he attempts to create a false dichotomy between Sven and Bulbazak.

Sekai no Ki (Fferyllt/Pieguyn Hydra): pieguy's catch-up post is horrible. I can't imagine anyone writing that and thinking that it's going to produce interactions or convey an understanding of his stances.

Lurking scum are Peregrine and Alpazard.

Vezok is going to drive me nuts, but I guess that's life.

Unvote
Vote: RedCoyote

[Zdenek]

He's still refusing to answer questions.

Indeed. He might be scum for it or stubborn/difficult town.

[AngryPidgeon]

Probscum:

RedCoyote: his unwillingness to post seems deliberately anti-town. His read on BBmolla (3rd place scum) and the reasons that he gave don't make sense in the context of his other reads.

Meh? Rc being a lurker is not alignment indicative Im afraid. I'll look for what you're saying about his BBMolla read though. Also, hes not getting lynched today. why are you voting him?

Pidgey: he attempts to create a false dichotomy between Sven and Bulbazak.

Yep. Picked up on the same thing.

Sekai no Ki (Fferyllt/Pieguyn Hydra): pieguy's catch-up post is horrible. I can't imagine anyone writing that and thinking that it's going to produce interactions or convey an understanding of his stances.

Y,a pieguy reads nervous, ffery reads defensive. I do not like them Sam I am. Of your lynch list, I like these the most for scum.

Lurking scum are Peregrine and Alpazard.

So why are you voting someone who is definitely not getting lynched instead of the alpaca who can definitely be lynched?

[sekai no ki]

@GiF have you done your reset? Want to talk reads?

[Zdenek]

I also don't just think that RC is lurking. I think that he is deliberately using the loss of posts as an excuse to not post.
We have a week, so I don't feel the need to vote for someone who can definitely be lynched yet.

[AngryPidgeon]

To the contrary, I think its time to start consolidating. Ideally, we should be lynching someone in the next couple Days to give us breathing room. Ive had too many games where people derp around until the last minute and keep spamming walls.

[GuyInFreezer]

It worked hilariously well in Cash Cabd

(In fact, it worked so well that one vote was enough)

One game from a while ago that you voted me when I was the only remaining scum left in a town with a cop and a doctor in my way

Yeah you're right I totally am readable by my vote reactions

This post to be exact.
This is not town notsci going "suck it I'm obvtown."
This is scum notsci going "oh cool. Blah blah blah."

[GuyInFreezer]

You never actually said when your "lets reaction test Not sci" turned into a "not sci is le scummzorz"

Oops. I can tell you that it started when I pointed out that the vote reaction apparently doesn't work on him, wherever I said that.

[GuyInFreezer]

@GiF have you done your reset? Want to talk reads?

Not yet, unfortunately. But I doubt that the read change would be dramatic.

[AngryPidgeon]

This post to be exact.
This is not town notsci going "suck it I'm obvtown."
This is scum notsci going "oh cool. Blah blah blah."

IDK, I would argue that the blatant sarcasm reads more along the lines of "suck it" than "oh cool"

[GuyInFreezer]

And that tone isn't town from him.
I could quote some examples from different games.

[AngryPidgeon]

You know how I feel about meta cases.

[GuyInFreezer]

Well if you don't like meta stuff, there's also their bad reaction to my question that got eaten by tiger. (The one that you pointed out.)

[Rubicon]

Catching up on this game because I don't want to get prodded. I haven't had a chance to read all the posts you guys have made, but based on the ones I've looked at, I have this crazy feeling in my gut that most of you are town, and only a few of you are scum. Assuming that's correct, I also have the distinct impression that those of you who are town (I'm thinking a majority?) don't know who each other are, but the scum do know each other, and might have some form of private communication. I think this might even things out because if the scum players weren't more informed than the town, it would be hard for them to work together, and the town players would have trouble telling the difference.

Let me know if I'm missing anything.

[Majiffy]

Caught up on my phone.

Dopog is pretty clearly town now.

Nothing else has changed for me.

[sekai no ki]

Catching up on this game because I don't want to get prodded. I haven't had a chance to read all the posts you guys have made, but based on the ones I've looked at, I have this crazy feeling in my gut that most of you are town, and only a few of you are scum. Assuming that's correct, I also have the distinct impression that those of you who are town (I'm thinking a majority?) don't know who each other are, but the scum do know each other, and might have some form of private communication. I think this might even things out because if the scum players weren't more informed than the town, it would be hard for them to work together, and the town players would have trouble telling the difference.

Let me know if I'm missing anything.

loled.