The Reckoning III (Math is Hard) Holy crap, perfect town win

[EagleKit]

that gunshot was pretty loud

[Sir Waffles Wafflington]

Oh mollie mollie. I came across this post earlier and thought you might be town:

if I can find 1 town I will be happy. just 1

is that too much to ask

JUST 1 FUCKING TOWN READ THAT I CAN STICK WITH AND BELIEVE IN

FUCKING A IT WAS 73 DEGREES YESTERDAY AND NOW IT IS SNOWING

I mean you can say this as scum, and I suppose if you're trying to burn your town meta it's something you would say, but it felt somewhat townish. Mina and I talked about it to and she saw the possibility except she's having a bigger problem than I am coming to terms with your posting and reads so far this game. Her big problem is that to her you've seemed somewhat more collected than you do here because the reasoning for your scum read on us makes no literal sense whatsoever and doesn't actually look like you're trying to read either of our heads. Mina's questions weren't pointless; you might not have understood where she was coming from but that doesn't make them pointless. If you can't see the burgeoning paranoia in her question to faraday then I don't know what to tell you, but considering that you tend towards paranoia that lends itself to moon logic at times, I'm surprised you didn't sense what was there.

This makes me more concerned about you because it feels like you decided that you were going to push us as scum and have warped your entire narrative around that goal even though it doesn't make a lick of sense. You're not recognizing the things that should make you doubt that sure fire scum read you have on both of our heads and you don't feel like you're actually reading the game and trying to parse alignments. The things you missed is similar to you missing things in the Mario bros game where you were out of step there too because you didn't pick up on town tells in the game because you didn't have a town role pm so you missed the narrative.

And I mean, did you actually use as a scum reasoning for me that I used a phrase you don't think is in my toolbox? That has got to be the most convoluted crap I've heard. I probably don't mean the same thing you do when you say it, but I'm pretty sure I remember in Skype one day you saying you thought we scumhunted in a similar way or had a similar playstyle or something so idont get this how dare you use a phrase I've never heard you say because only nacho and I use it. And if something has creeped into my toolbox that nacho uses, perhaps it's because we hydra together and have talked quite a bit. I'm pretty sure there are things I've drawn from everyone I've hydrad with. (See faraday don't you want to hydra with me now even if I don't sing for you? You can impact my scumhunting.

are you still reading my wall?

)

I'm not really going to respond to anything else from that wall because I found so much of it contrived and this wall is already big enough and if you can't realize I'm town by the time you finish reading this post, then you never will and me pointing out why none of that made sense will help in that regard.

But I do want to know why you sidestepped this question:

Also, I'd love for you to provide the context for the trolling means I'm being bussed accusation.

Who is bussing us in this game? The overlords are the only ones voting us, and you've declared them town. (We agree they look very town.) When have I been bussed and just decided to troll a game?

You keep talking as if you have authority for my scum game, but you throw out nuggets like this as if this is something that has happened and is happening in this game, and I can't for the life of me figure out where you're getting this Tammy scum meta. I mean sure your other part is right, I have, in fact, manipulated people as scum. Who hasn't? I'm not manipulating anyone in this game and my posts haven't even slightly been manipulative.

I think I would just feel so much better about you in all of this if I saw a hint of paranoia because I'd be able to recognize that as town with a bad read, but when I read you, your stuff just feels contrived.

Also, while looking for you pirate case to show Mina that sometimes you do go a bit irrational as town, I came across this:

Re: Tammy. I'm not good at reading her. But, she seems pretty emotional this game, moreso than in the one I was in with her as scum. But, like she said, her posting tone correlates with her mood sometimes, so it's probably not necessarily alignment indicative.

Something about this post below bothers me for some reason though, but I can't figure out why:

Spoiler:

omg mollie's Post 358 is something I can empathize with so much but in inverse, if that makes sense. I'm no good at day one; I find day one's a lot of noise and more games than not I feel like shit about my reads because I feel like I put the puzzle together better when there are pieces flipped. This means that some games I take a back seat role and look at how the arguments play out to see what makes sense, but in some games I feel like it makes sense right away. And my game is really largely dependent on my mood first.

I was telling empire not too long ago that I wanted to change my meta because I felt like what people expected from me was actually causing a distraction in games because people aren't actually reading me based on what I say in games but in really superficial things that are partially alignment aligned but are also mood aligned. So for instance, no I don't always joke around and be exciting at the start of the game. If I do, I'm almost definitely town, but if I don't, I might just not be in the mood. I'm getting a bit tired of people pushing me for reactions instead of looking at what I'm saying, which I think is way more relevant than anything ever. I mean I get that it might be amusing for people to just try to make me mad, but I don't think that makes an enjoyable or productive game, so I've pledged to do my best to not react to unwarranted suspicion until people start reading what I'm actually saying, especially when they aren't people who have bothered to understand me enough to see where I'm coming from.

I realize this might get me a few mislynches in the near future, but I'm considering it an experiment and hope it will help.

/complete weird tangent

That's you not only saying you don't know how to read me, but is also showing you actually trying. I'd like to know how you go from not knowing how to read me to being so super sure your right on your read here? We have no completed games since that game that would make you have a revelation, and the game we played on Skype a few days ago had you quick voting me in lylo when I was town. I'd like to know why you're not actually trying to read me here.

And what makes you so confident, you feel certain enough to reply to this the way you did:

I cant actually ever remember you having a read and being that convicted about it but I'm going to trust Faraday's read for now

mine is better

What makes you think you're better at reading us than faraday? Also unless I'm misreading, he called our slot obnoxiously town. You know how nacho is pretty damn good at reading me? Yeah, faradays better. (Look faraday I'm buddying you!)

Anyway, this wall has been bigger than I meant it to be and I lost a good chunk of what I wrote trying to submit it when the thread was locked and now I can't remember what I said but I'm sure it was better than this! Basically this boils down to me thinking I see glimmers of you as town but I also have issues with seeing you as town because it doesn't feel like you're actually trying to read people, but I also am having trouble seeing scum you so doggedly asking people to vote for us especially when you know how unlikely it is to go through, but I have had scum attacking me for weird things lately and you have ny backup in that regard because it feels like that to me. I know I might not be the most objective about this but it doesn't feel like a town attack, so if you are town can you make it obvious, please?

[Eleven]

Mollie being arrogant about her read(s) doesn't seem surprising.

Nice shot Ythan. Hey, eaglekit

[Triforce]

We're probably not going to read Tammy's post or the reply.

[Eleven]

Fairly sure we can take for granted that's everyone's position and move on?

[Triforce]

+1

[Sir Waffles Wafflington]

That's okay!

It's not there for you to read :tonguewag:

We need better emoticons.

(Also, faraday shouldn't act like he didn't read it!)

[EagleKit]

i read it

vote: pirate mollie

[Eleven]

incoming freak out x 2

[Cheery Dog]

that gunshot was pretty loud

It must have been to wake you up.

Anyway Mina has something there. (I assume, I'd have to read it)

[Axxle]

We're probably not going to read Tammy's post or the reply.

tl;dr: "Mollie, I (Tammy) think you're town but you can't read me and you know you can't read me so wtf you doin'?"

At least that was my impression of it.

VOTE: ActionDan

[Axxle]

No wait, I was thinking of
VOTE: Cheery Dog

[Eleven]

Uh, how do you have a read that's not "what the fuck" on everything cheery posted?

[Axxle]

Uh, how do you have a read that's not "what the fuck" on everything cheery posted?

That's exactly the read?

[Cheery Dog]

and you expect voting me will somehow change that?

[pirate mollie]

This message is hidden because the waffle creatures are on your lame self-censorship list.

[Cheery Dog]

VOTE: pirate mollie

[pirate mollie]

Mollie being arrogant about her read(s) doesn't seem surprising.

Nice shot Ythan. Hey, eaglekit

why was that a good shot by ythan?

[Eleven]

What do you think that question will tell you about my alignment? Gonna not answer just in case ur trying to TRAP ME.

[pirate mollie]

What do you think that question will tell you about my alignment? Gonna not answer just in case ur trying to TRAP ME.

tbqh I was thinking that you and waffles were scum together!

[Sir Waffles Wafflington]

[Sir Waffles Wafflington]

We're probably not going to read Tammy's post or the reply.

tl;dr: "Mollie, I (Tammy) think you're town but you can't read me and you know you can't read me so wtf you doin'?"

At least that was my impression of it.

VOTE: ActionDan

Mostly along those lines. More like I think there's a possibility you're town, but here are some issues, but... the rest of what you said.

[Eleven]

What do you think that question will tell you about my alignment? Gonna not answer just in case ur trying to TRAP ME.

tbqh I was thinking that you and waffles were scum together!

Yeah, luckily you'll be ignored once we kill you night 1.

[Eleven]

(P.s. you ignored my dumb question in response to your dumb question )

[Cheery Dog]

What do you think that question will tell you about my alignment? Gonna not answer just in case ur trying to TRAP ME.

tbqh I was thinking that you and waffles were scum together!

Is that who was bussing waffles earlier?