Newbie 1476 - Game Over

[serrapaladin]

OFFICIAL VOTE COUNT 1.15

burn_209 (1) - RachMarie
Luca Blight (2) - Zivel, Graeyfurredmutt

goodmorning (2) - burn_209, Luca Blight

Zivel (3) - notscience, Not_Mafia, joker443

Not Voting (1) - goodmorning

With 9 alive, it's 5 to lynch.

The deadline for Day 1 is in (expired on 2014-03-06 01:59:59).[/area]

[joker443]

May as well follow as haven't really done that..plus his readings are very strange
Plus I'll get moaned at soon for not using my vote better

vote zivel

[Zivel]

Thats L1 for me. Don't miss count this Mutt.

[Zivel]

Don't let me go till we get notty's case. I have been waiting for it for days now.

[goodmorning]

Unvote

[Not_Mafia]

Don't let me go till we get notty's case. I have been waiting for it for days now.

Although no one would have hammered, Zivel is right, we're still waiting on your outside-burn case on Zivel

[goodmorning]

ughhhhh notsci what are you doing

[notscience]

Well I spent most of my day shoveling snow and woke up from a nap to prod dodge totally forgetting I promised a case

So, it'll be here in 13 hours or I'll selfvote and let you lynch me

[Zivel]

Interesting.... What does a selfvote and lynch offering mean here? Seems a little soft imo. What are others thinking here, it has got a little quiet and we are nearing the end of the day.

[joker443]

We need to decide soon else we're gonna end up with a no lynch

[serrapaladin]

Deadline is in under 48 hours. If there is no majority by then, a no-lynch will occur.

OFFICIAL VOTE COUNT 1.15

burn_209 (1) - RachMarie
Luca Blight (2) - Zivel, Graeyfurredmutt

goodmorning (2) - burn_209, Luca Blight

Zivel (3) - notscience, Not_Mafia, joker443

Not Voting (1) - goodmorning

With 9 alive, it's 5 to lynch.

The deadline for Day 1 is in (expired on 2014-03-06 01:59:59).[/area]

[goodmorning]

I'm fine with the Zivel lynch, if not particularly enthusiastic. Give notsci his time to case it though.

[Luca Blight]

I didn't even realise the deadline had been unfrozen. Have the old posts returned?

I'm going to be busy for the next few hours but I will go through some ISO's later and give my reads.

[notscience]

I overslept, typing thoughts up now

[notscience]

So part one of my case is PoE because it's not going to be an accurate notscience read without some PoE first.

GM and Joker are town for reasons left unspoken at this junction, yes?

GFM's early game transparency is what lead me to an early townread on him ->(Sigue, I did notice this same explanation appeared in Luca's read and would be willing to lynch luca)

Burn's AtE at being run up felt pro-town, however his sudden disappearance after the heat on him subsided is EXACTLY like the last game he was in.

Not Mafia is not mafia, his avatar and signature promise it! No, but seriously, I like some of what he's said and could see town-me or town-TIP saying it.

This leaves (Rach, Luca, Zivel). Of the three, the one I've not been able to townread remotely has been Zivel. I've had passing glimpses of townreads on the other two- granted neither currently have them but that's whatever.

Now, let's stroll through Zivel's ISO shall we?

69 attempts to look like providing content while basically just stating the IIoA "oh man in newbies votes fly why is he starting wagons" and just feels like an awkward read- granted, this was in RVS-ish.

167 Oh look a reads list! Now, let's examine the reasoning behind the rea- wait, what? None? And he isn't even trying to read myself or GM because we're too "experienced," yet he had his vote on me before as a scumread. Does that make sense to anyone?

231 by me explaining my prior reads it left him feeling "better about my motives" while he avoids saying exactly which motives he feels better about. Awkward, amirite?

235 "I would say Joker is my strongest scum-feel atm" which is weird, because the ONE VOTE in his ISO was the one he placed on me in RVS. Voteparking while changing reads around seem strange to anyone else?

379 This is an honest post and it felt good to see it, because here's why. Zivel just said that he will kill GM tonight and use her death as leverage to get my lynch, yet if you remember, I'm the one that A)He's had his vote parked on all game B) Am too "experienced" for him to read and C) He felt "better" about my motives after I shared my thought process a bit. Seems legit, right?

Also 458 is so bloodthirsty and desperate it's hilarious it reminds me of early-sakura in 1526

[Graeyfurredmutt]

So my reads at the moment:

Joker: Scum, I just have a feeling. Putting Burn on L1 feels scum to me and he was quick about it.

Luca: My other strong Mafia read, not really sure why.

I think Burn is town, just a panicked town that got himself to L1 and got angry about it. His logic and quotes are wrong but I think this more due to him not liking L1 not him being Scum.

GM and NotSci I have no idea about, to experienced for me.

Mutt is Town imo, seems to be asking to good a questions and answering them well.

Not_Mafia is town, again not sure why, just have a feeling.

Must say I am enjoying the two and froing between Luca and Burn. Would like to see a bit more pressure on Luca though.

Unvote

Wow I didn't actually notice how awful this was. With the knowledge that this was literally immediately after I said I thought Luca was scum makes this seem much worse.

[Graeyfurredmutt]

But NotScience his vote wasn't actually parked on you.

[notscience]

Go to his ISO and control f Vote:

[Graeyfurredmutt]

But he unvoted and voted for Luca in 167 which is when he changed his read.

[notscience]

Wow

I'm blind

jesus

[Zivel]

Now, let's stroll through Zivel's ISO shall we?

Stroll we shall

69 attempts to look like providing content while basically just stating the IIoA "oh man in newbies votes fly why is he starting wagons" and just feels like an awkward read- granted, this was in RVS-ish.

Also my first read ever, and has highlighted one of my main motivations at questioning you. Its self defense, you have tried to wagon me three times now, and I have questioned you every time to work out why.

167 Oh look a reads list! Now, let's examine the reasoning behind the rea- wait, what? None? And he isn't even trying to read myself or GM because we're too "experienced," yet he had his vote on me before as a scumread. Does that make sense to anyone?

This was brought up already by Luca, and I responded with 186.

I called you scum in an AtE that was maybe my first real post, I took it back when I realised that playing this game does not mean surviving. I just didnt like the attitude of Newb flail etc.

This highlights the other main issue I have had with you, I dont think you are scum and I have mostly a town read on you. Which makes all this a waste of towns time! But like I said before, its been in self defense from my point of view.

231 by me explaining my prior reads it left him feeling "better about my motives" while he avoids saying exactly which motives he feels better about. Awkward, amirite?

I asked for some information, like I have for most of the game as you have tried to wagon me several times. You are ambiguous and state guesses as facts. You give very little reasoning behind most of your posts. I did not see this as productive (was changing my town read on you) and called you out on it, you came back with some real information that meant I could put you back in my town box.

235 "I would say Joker is my strongest scum-feel atm" which is weird, because the ONE VOTE in his ISO was the one he placed on me in RVS. Voteparking while changing reads around seem strange to anyone else?

I still think Joker is Scum, I think he has followed the wagons happily with little real answers as to why. Has not committed to to many indepth reads and has done nothing to make me feel he is town.

My vote has been parked on Luca for most of the game, and I think it is being more useful there than on Joker (no one seems interested in Joker some are interested in Luca). I have differing thoughts about Luca, I just re read his ISO and he appears more townish than he did before, I would be happy to vote him, but I would also not be surprised if he flipped town.

379 This is an honest post and it felt good to see it, because here's why. Zivel just said that he will kill GM tonight and use her death as leverage to get my lynch, yet if you remember, I'm the one that A)He's had his vote parked on all game B) Am too "experienced" for him to read and C) He felt "better" about my motives after I shared my thought process a bit. Seems legit, right?

Lol, and this was the one post I posted that was bullshit and was just posted to see what would happen. God my tells are crap.

Also 458 is so bloodthirsty and desperate it's hilarious it reminds me of early-sakura in 1526

By this point I was a little frustrated. You had started a wagon on me that got me to L1 and had then disappeared for 2 days, just after you had promised me a case. I also have no idea what that means, you were willing to self vote or you were always going to post?

[Not_Mafia]

The beast has awakened. Not Sci's read seems to be stretching. Personally I have a null read on Zivel outside of his reads list looking burn partnery.

Burn is the best lynch still IMO, both on a scum and policy basis. NotSci, I think the fact that Burn is in his scum meta needs more consideration from you. My vote is parked on him until close to deadline, at which point there a few people I am willing to move to based on who is being wagoned at that point.

UNVOTE: Zivel
VOTE: Burn

[joker443]

Btw I have given reads there just isn't majorly loads to go on day 1

[Zivel]

Btw I have given reads there just isn't majorly loads to go on day 1

You have also put two people on L1 with little reasoning behind it. You seem like you are in a hurry to get a lynch no matter who, I would rather no lynch than lynch a townie...

[Zivel]

The beast has awakened. Not Sci's read seems to be stretching. Personally I have a null read on Zivel outside of his reads list looking burn partnery.

Burn is the best lynch still IMO, both on a scum and policy basis. NotSci, I think the fact that Burn is in his scum meta needs more consideration from you. My vote is parked on him until close to deadline, at which point there a few people I am willing to move to based on who is being wagoned at that point.

UNVOTE: Zivel
VOTE: Burn

I could be persuaded to policy vote Burn, Rach as well. Both for very little input into the game so far.