Left 4 Dead Mafia! (Game Over!)

[GuyInFreezer]

Oh also, speaking of MVP, let's quote one of your few posts in that NY game, shall we?

Subject: NY 167: COMPLETELY NORMAL Mafia (GAME OVER)

Spoiler: Wall

can hydras sign their posts pl0x

Betting on at least one to refuse and expect you to know who is talking at all times.

I'll sign but it gives no clue to my main.

[quotestack]

VOTE: Cabd / MC Makara

Um so you get on a policy lynch and then make a random vote?

Why don't you pursue this more? You placean accusation without pursuing it further, why?

VOTE: Hermy

Yep.

townread on,Sakura Hana, but light.

Tim Tebow

We are relieved to learn that our random vote has landed in an intelligent place!

Would anybody care to explain what exactly I've done wrong?

This isn't the towniest reaction I have ever seen.

Hyde

So the person I voted had a scummy reaction but you still don't like my post? Okay. Seems kinda counter-intuitive but hey, that's just me.

I want sakura to justify this

There's quite a difference between Hermy and me and it bothers me that you're saying I do the same thing when you were the one who pointed it out to me in site chat.

For everyone else:

I'm known for self-voting/self-hammering, tho it's something im trying to move away from.
Hermy's known for self-voting IN LYLO as town.

Big Difference.

Selfvoting in lylo=selfhammering. Both throw games. So no, small difference.

Hermy's known for self-voting IN LYLO as town.

What was the reasoning behind this? I've seen respectable players do it because they know the game is winnable if they do so.

How would a game be winnable by self voting in LYLO as a townie? I'm not sure you're paying attention to what you're saying.

I like you for town.

Holy crickets. I self-voted in Ly-Lo
- Once
- In my first newbie game
- When I was extremely pissed off
- And was going to get lynched anyway

I've never done it otherwise. Ugh. It was a one off, I feel stupid for doing so, but I'd truly prefer it if I wasn't labelled as bad for something I did ONCE, ages ago

That's nice. Don't really care, but that's nice.

I know.
And it was my RVS vote.
You getting this pissy about it is giving me bad vibes.

You plan on nonchalantly saying these things without pursuing these further? And Mine was serious.

How does this have three pages

I know.
And it was my RVS vote.
You getting this pissy about it is giving me bad vibes.

I got annoyed because I'm not 'known' for it. I did it once. I don't like to be mislabeled.

Guess what: It doesn't go away. Move on.

Well that's better...

And that post doesnt seem faked anyway, now I'd rather lynch this guy

Unvote
Vote: Wake

Why?

VOTE: Wake88

^

Well that's better...

And that post doesnt seem faked anyway, now I'd rather lynch this guy

Unvote
Vote: Wake

VOTE: Wake88

Any particular reason why?

I like the synergy in our thought processes. You get a townread too.

Any particular reason why?

Reactions.

Why do you care?

Way to fuck up any reasoning for that vote. Now, why is it still there?

Any particular reason why?

Reactions.

Why do you care?

Because I see votes without reasons, and I like people to have reasons so I can better follow what they're thinking.

Yo, I like you.

This is confirmed Town.

Really?
Wouldnt you be mad if someone messed up with your reaction tests by asking questions like that?

You fucked up your reaction test, not him.

Most of the time, Town fucks up everything

Last time i did a gambit i got a conf town, but town lynched him anyway.
Then i found both scum and subtly stated the plan for LyLo since i was conf town and was dying, but town didnt see it.

Yeah I concede... town does fuck up everything, maybe i shouldn't even play since town is gonna fuck up everything right?

Nope, I still will try, and I don't find any town motivation behind someone screwing other people's plans, and you giving him a conf town pass is even worse

Unvote
Vote: tippy

I'm going to get back to this later.

I have gut scum on Wake88, based on his approach into this game, particularly the SK speculation, avoiding meaningful discussion.

And giving them a conf town pass to boot.

So, I skimmed some games with multiple people in this game. 1436 comes to mind. It had you, and a member of the sangres and maracas hydrae. You gave Cabd a conftown read after that gambit thing, didn't you? Now, when someone tried to fuck it up, what did he flip?

I say we lynch TIP today, who wants to hamma?

>isn't voting TIP

Also, lynching TIP is pretty antitown when the hydras will know whether he's scum within five more pages.

Sadly I'm actually townreading this post though.

~Jekyll

Agree with most, but not the last line.

I say we lynch TIP today, who wants to hamma?

>isn't voting TIP

Also, lynching TIP is pretty antitown when the hydras will know whether he's scum within five more pages.

Sadly I'm actually townreading this post though.

~Jekyll

does that matter? I want TIP dead regardless

dead.

Hanging town is not how town wins at this game. Go back to "Mafia for dummies" or GTFO scum.

VOTE: yessiree

You get a townread. I really liked this post.

Hey kids, I'm here now. When did this whole thing get six pages already???

Hey lurkaholic, any insight?

I know.
And it was my RVS vote.
You getting this pissy about it is giving me bad vibes.

Do you expect her to take that lying down? I think getting mad when people call you a bad player is fairly alignment-neutral.

4. sangres (hydra of Nacho and ffery): Nacho is like 13 and ffery is like 12 and they'll both call me Jacob

You mixed up our ages, Jacob.

Hey kids, I'm here now. When did this whole thing get six pages already???

Wed Oct 30, 2013 4:23 pm

Agreed with the first line, laughed at the last 2.

Ok 148 is something I can agree that comes more from a town perspective. still veeeery far from conftown tho.

See my earlier comment.

And giving them a conf town pass to boot.

I hardly think what he did qualifies as a 'conf town pass' in anyone's mind but his. That's pretty obvious. Why are you trying to misrep it otherwise?

UNVOTE:
VOTE: Sakura Hana

You can get a townread.

I hardly think what he did qualifies as a 'conf town pass' in anyone's mind but his. That's pretty obvious. Why are you trying to misrep it otherwise?

What makes you think I meant otherwise?

Deflect more, please.

I love how none of my hydra partners posted after my last post.
Catching up.

-L. J.

GO DIE I LIKE TO QUOTEWALL

Ok 148 is something I can agree that comes more from a town perspective. still veeeery far from conftown tho.

VOTE: Sakura Hana

Anyways, uh, hang on.

@Maraca: Can I have a link of yessiree's games?

Oooh, oooh, I have a guess as to one of your heads. Hang on.

{Cabd's quotestripe hell}

Are you avoiding me?

You smell funny.

-L. J.

I say we lynch TIP today, who wants to hamma?

>isn't voting TIP

Also, lynching TIP is pretty antitown when the hydras will know whether he's scum within five more pages.

Sadly I'm actually townreading this post though.

~Jekyll

does that matter? I want TIP dead regardless

dead.

Hanging town is not how town wins at this game. Go back to "Mafia for dummies" or GTFO scum.

VOTE: yessiree

hmmmm how did I miss this gem back there

presuming that someone(TIP in this case) is town lies within the scum mentality

VOTE: likeabauss

Nice OMGUS

Tim Tebow

[GuyInFreezer]

Oh btw, regarding no. 2, being inactive in the beginning of the game doesn't really matter now because your inactivity is present progressive tense, not a past tense.

[PeregrineV]

Vote: Alpazard

[GuyInFreezer]

Also task meta is too old.
Unless you still post like this as scum:

Subject: Micro 195 - Wacky Bastard Mafia (Game over!)

TIP bby how are you

Lets scumhunt some please

pleasepleaseplease

VOTE: Mastin

For calling us scum and not backing it with a vote, as well as sheeping cirno in an attempt to buddy

y u so scum

TIP y u no rvs

Are you scum in this game

Every other post was DP js

[GuyInFreezer]

Which is still in the novice-scum-era similar to your first scum game.

[Thor665]

I skipped some pages.
Is there a wagon at L-1 I can hammer to end this day?

[Thor665]

Oh, and I have a lightsaber again.
Fear me.

[GuyInFreezer]

I skipped some pages.
Is there a wagon at L-1 I can hammer to end this day?

Sadly, no.
But Alpa wagon is halfway there.

[Majiffy]

Self: Page 46

[Majiffy]

Disregard, self. Nothing important has happened.

Why isn't Vezok the obvscum dead yet?

[Thor665]

How is he obv. scum? I must have missed the obviousness of it.

[Svenskt Stål]

Why does sven wagon still exists?

Because he's scum and needs to die. Please try to keep up.

Why does sven wagon still exists?

Because he's scum and needs to die. Please try to keep up.

But I am keeping up.
Currently, Sven wagon consists of: Whoisthisguy, my_scum_read, my_town_but_having_an_off_game_read, mr.guy-who-voted-for-being-lazy, and mr.guy-whose-view-is-tainted-with-policy.
Am I missing something?

Um... Not really. I do think that Sven is still scum. At the very least, he's incredibly anti-town for trying to avoid questioning. Either way, he needs to die.

for your tears


for your feelings

Because looking at some of the stuff you've said about me is just damn wrong.

1) You misreading my tone yet AP reading it correctly, even though you're the one claiming to be the master of ns-tone.

2) "This seems empty for a ns hydra" How active was I in MVP, GIF? What about Task? What about notSakura? Was I active at the start of any of those games either?

3) You've had your vote planted on us for the longest fucking time pretending it actually did something.

i am pretty sure your vote on me is among the the oldest in the thread and you have done nothing with it

[Thor665]

@Sven - a bit of play advice. Stop acting like it's bad that people find you scummy. Your play is markedly anti-town and has been throughout - there's a reason more people aren't reading you as town and it's not because they're all bad players.

[Alpazard]

1) I'm sheeping pitoli's read on you too. Gun to my head I think AP is town based purely on what I've seen

and he's defending me so I have to townread him

2) You questioned the lack of post quantity. I explained it.

3) My wagon's the lead wagon because people would rather lynch lurkers than do anything actually useful with their vote.

And here's the thing. Your post on the lat page requires I do something town, rather than have not done something scum, yet a few pages ago, you said I sounded like "oh cool, blah blah blah" which is my scum-attitude.

The fuck's up with that?

Majiffy what does the flowchart say I should do to

save myself until I can beg my buddies for help in night phase

lynch scum

pedit-

Hi Sven! We're voting you for the hero of mafiacsum- jk pitoli voted you a while back and we've kinda been lurking but I'm here now just wait until majiffy tells me who to vote and it'll be moved

[GuyInFreezer]

Hey AP if you're looking for good compromise lynch:

Spoiler:

Bolded ppl who's willing to lynch Alp besides the one who's not already voting him.

ActionDan - No read

Aegor - Don't mind Alp lynch

AP - have no problem lynching Alp

BB - kinda town

Bulba - scum

dopog - no read
GIF - voting Alp
Majiffy - no read
mastin2 - town
Nero Cain - gone for a while
PV - voting Alp
pidgey - don't remember
RC - scumread/willing to lynch
Rubicon - no mention at all
sekai - voting Alp

Sven - "not so town"

SC3 - voting Alp
Thor665 - voting Alp
Toogeloo - voting Alp

vezok - maybe scum

Zdenek - lurking scum

[Bulbazak]

Whose reads are those?

[AngryPidgeon]

Alp wagon is win-win.

Either he's scum or I can be smug towards gif tomorrow

[Svenskt Stål]

@Sven - a bit of play advice. Stop acting like it's bad that people find you scummy. Your play is markedly anti-town and has been throughout - there's a reason more people aren't reading you as town and it's not because they're all bad players.

get over yourself, you are not half as good as people make you out to be, so dont think you are in a position to give advice.

and me being anti town is fucking lol, my entire wagon is people lurking or being butt hurt (voting with feelings)

try to stop lurking, or do you find posting as scum hard? couse its not really pro town

fuck off

[GuyInFreezer]

And here's the thing. Your post on the lat page requires I do something town, rather than have not done something scum, yet a few pages ago, you said I sounded like "oh cool, blah blah blah" which is my scum-attitude.

The fuck's up with that?

I don't see anything wrong with it.

[GuyInFreezer]

Whose reads are those?

Everyone's read on Alp

[GuyInFreezer]

Alp wagon is win-win.

Either he's scum or I can be smug towards gif tomorrow

If he flips town I will stfu tomorrow and act as your doublevote for entire duration of the game.

[Aegor]

VOTE: Alp

People I want dead:

mastin
BBMolla
SCB
vezok
RC

Can we start consolidating our NK list?

[Thor665]

@Sven - a bit of play advice. Stop acting like it's bad that people find you scummy. Your play is markedly anti-town and has been throughout - there's a reason more people aren't reading you as town and it's not because they're all bad players.

get over yourself, you are not half as good as people make you out to be, so dont think you are in a position to give advice.

I don't think whether or not people think I am good has a bearing, frankly, I could be bad at the game and still capable of offering good advice. I do think I am offering you good advice.

and me being anti town is Smurfing lol, my entire wagon is people lurking or being butt hurt (voting with feelings)

try to stop lurking, or do you find posting as scum hard? couse its not really pro town

Smurf off

Yes, i agree with you that people are voting you based off their reactions to your attitude, playstyle, and other factors that don't have to do with you being town or scum.
But I don't think that it is healthy for you to presume that's because all of them are bad players and you're a perfectly fine player.
My submission is that the blame can be equally spread on both sides, and I'm hoping you are aware enough as a player to assess whether what you do is helpful or hurtful to the town wincon and to adjust your play accordingly. If not...then not, and it is within your right to decide I'm crazy. The evidence appears supportive of my conclusion however. If it offends you so much you need to drop f-bombs I'll make this my last post about it, but if you'd like to discuss game theory after the game I think I could help your play move towards at least my perception of 'pro-town'.

[GuyInFreezer]

Meh on molla and RC.
RC at first I voted him because I felt Spyparty but his later posts have been ok.
If I submit mastin that's for pure policy.

[GuyInFreezer]

SCB is null to me.
I'm ok with vezok.