Left 4 Dead Mafia! (Game Over!)

[Alpazard]

The fact you have to ASK me who to shoot when YOU just said that EVERYONE is scumreading vezok is fucking insane

[Zdenek]

So Alpazard is probably town.

[GuyInFreezer]

If you town up, it is still possible to LYNCH vezok btw

[Alpazard]

"if"

what the fuck do you call the last 5 pages

[GuyInFreezer]

I don't have definite scumreads anyway. So I'm really open to shoot whoever as long as I'm not townreading them

[GuyInFreezer]

"if"

what the fuck do you call the last 5 pages

If you haven't noticed, there's more people who wants to lynch vezok.
so I'm giving you a chance.
one small spark, and wagon can be turned quite easily.

[Alpazard]

GIF tell me why the 4 people who voted me after you are voting me please

[Aegor]

Yay! This game finally got interesting.

Still feeling good about the Alpa lynch. AP is correct in stating that

Alpa, you should really claim

. Deadline lynches are the absolute worst, especially if they are a counterwagon after a recent claim.

On the other hand, I dispute this:

This reads as so anti-town as to cross over into scummy because I honestly do not believe you're emotionally bought into the game enough to want to spite people over it.

This.

I honestly think a townie would be more concerned with taking responsibility for their (lack of) play which most definitely explains the majority of the wagon on them.

As town (or scum, for that matter), I hate being wagoned for no real reason, or for bad reasons. I would gladly just shut down or self-hammer in that scenario. Alpa's recent reaction is not so great to me, but it is not out of the question as town.

Would still rather lynch any of the people I listed before. Also Majiffy, for being useless.

[GuyInFreezer]

Nonono
you tell me.
I'm not the one being wagoned.

[Aegor]

GIF tell me why the 4 people who voted me after you are voting me please

LOLOLOLOLOL

Compromise lynch. I thought that was established.

[Alpazard]

"Can you describe their cases on me, even at this stage?"

This is a question Thor asked me in newbie 1444 after I yolohammered him before his claim for being "sketch"

Both scum were on his wagon.

Now, let's look at the votes on us!

Vote: Alpakahazard

I don't even remember where my vote was previously and am too lazy to look. Was I still on Chessball? My vain hope dream of scumhunting crushed because people are wimpsacks? I think that was it.
Pretty much I want to do this or mastin right now.

Let's speed lynch him.

And there.
Alpha answered your question for me.
A vote reaction won't work on him so we need an actual wagon on him!

pieguy likes this vote but it's because of marquis mostlh.

VOTE: Alpazard

Unvote;
Vote: Alpazard

^later says is due to sheeping townreads

So tell me, GIF. What are their cases for voting me?

[Alpazard]

fuck I forgot someone hold on

[Alpazard]

VOTE: Alpazard

^Wagon looks "clean"

[Aegor]

Tu m'as oublié!

[sekai no ki]

Basically, this is me telling a townread to pull up your damn socks and do better tomorrow.

Right except bacically by "do better" you mean "stop scumreading me"
When asked about why Im doing bad, thats really all you can throw up.

You seem to agree with a fair number of my reads. So your extended "Wah wah AP is bad" campaign feels like shit.

No, not just me. I disagreed with your GiF read and your early Mastin read. I don't know how you have a scum read on DGB/Chesskid. They could be scum but it's not at all evident atm. I also disagreed with your Vezok read though I think we've come around more there.


But, your read on me is just...amazing. You've been on my ass since really early on despite our having a number of reads in common as you just pointed out. And your reasoning is mostly nonexistant. How dare I meta-read Mastin. I'm being defensive. I'm sheeping GiF. No I'm scum with GiF. No there's only one scum in me and GiF. blah blah blah. You're trying to read me on the basis of rule-of-thumb generic tells despite me probably being one of the worst players on site to apply them to because my unfiltered reactions to games not only didn't develop in this environment, they developed in gamestates that never ever happen here.

I know we don't play the same games that often, but you've moderated or co-moderated several games I've played. I'm not a complete unknown.

Mastin has played way more often with me. However inexcusable your misread is, hers is triply so. When my eventual flip happens, think about that, I guess. Who here really had no excuse to scumread me? Retrospectively, how have these scumreads with no votes (not just mine, mind you) played into the town group consciousness and the eventual "vig" kills.

[GuyInFreezer]

fuck I forgot someone hold on

Youre telling me that to the one who led your wagon.
All they have to say is "I agree with gif so there".

Now give me something other than self wagon analysis.

[PeregrineV]

GIF tell me why the 4 people who voted me after you are voting me please

Cause he made a good point.

You're scummy and not trying.

Stop whining and give us reads, reasons, etc. which will possibly result in reasons to NOT lynch you today.

See how that works?

[BBmolla]

Alp, if you're town, Toog is the scum on your wagon g

[PeregrineV]

Vote: DrppingSweatBall

Let's give the man time to post coherently.

[PeregrineV]

Alp, if you're town, Toog is the scum on your wagon g

I'm voting him too. Or was.

[AngryPidgeon]

How dare I meta-read Mastin

This is like my 9001st time saying that your mastin read had nothing to do with your alignment and everything to do with me making a statement that meta-reads on mastin are all going to be worthless.

[BBmolla]

Ok cool you're scum on the wagon too PV ty

[Alpazard]

Alp, if you're town, Toog is the scum on your wagon g

PV likely is too.

GIF people are unrequitedly sheeping your read on me. Then there's people like AP who actually CHALLENGED it.

Which of these is more likely town?

pedit-

I like this guy he's going places

[sekai no ki]

Ffery where's your townread on me

In abeyance.

GiF I'm thinking notsci is town. This is nothing like his wagon reaction in cash cabd, which has been one of your meta yardsticks.

What are you seeing that's otherwise?

[PeregrineV]

Ok cool you're scum on the wagon too PV ty

I just want to make sure your held to your reads, and the reasons behind them.

Like why is Toog scum?