Touhou: Mafia in the Land of Fantasy (Game Over)

[Nachomamma8]

shut the fuck up with suggestions to lynch bubba

unvote

[Yukari Yakumo]

VC 4.09

GoodCop_BadCop (L-4):

ActionDan | Jaqen Hghar | Saki

Saki (L-5):

GoodCop_BadCop | Varsoon

bubbajack8 (L-3):

pieguyn | MafiaSSK | Sakura Hana | Katarina LeBlanc

zMuffinMan (L-6):

bubbajack8

Not Voting:

zMuffinMan, notscience, Nachomamma8

With 13 alive, it takes 7 votes to lynch.

The deadline is March 6th, 10:45 AM EST.
Deadline: (expired on 2014-03-06 20:30:00)

The new deadline is March 6, 8:30 PM EST.

loldeadline amirite

[Yukari Yakumo]

Cabd, please stay inside the hydra.

[Katarina LeBlanc]

shut the fuck up with suggestions to lynch bubba

unvote

What are you gonna do about it?

Unless you give us some game breaking information that the guy who crumbed activated day bomb and overextended his reaction with Jaqen's SK cop gambit. (which was super easy to pick up on, mind you) then I'll have no problems with just going crazy with the lynch.

[bubbajack8]

Jaqen's the IC. I'm not confirmed town in any spectrum.

you being like Jaqen is being the pain in the ass that I'm not going to listen too

oh ok. that makes more sense..

Varsoon: Where did you get a vig shot?

[Varsoon]

I think Bubba.
VOTE: Bubba

[Varsoon]

@Bubba: Pissed yourself yet? I've been a vig all game.

[Varsoon]

Odd-night Vigilante, One-shot redirector.
Town.
That's me.

[Sakura Hana]

Tewi as an odd-night vig? that sounds odd (No pun intended)

[bubbajack8]

Odd-night Vigilante, One-shot redirector.
Town.
That's me.

I thiught you were just redirecter. Have we had a jight witg 4 kills? If not why is there evdn sk discussion.

[Sakura Hana]

[ActionDan]

Is the sarcasm meter broke again?

[Varsoon]

No way of knowing how the SK works/who was blocked, etc.

[Katarina LeBlanc]

Varsoon did you really just claim something that would make me lynch you.

[Sakura Hana]

Unvote
Vote: Varsoon

Flashlynch go!

2 Kills Night 1
1 Kill Night 2.
2 Kills Night 3.

And Varsoon is the only one who has claimed something that has anything to do with those second kills (They were on odd-nights too!), so either we got no sk or Varsoon's the SK.
pieguy, what are your thoughts on this?
Saki, you did something like this on FEA (Claimed even-night vig because of your unconsecutive night ninja), what are your thoughts on Varsoon's claim?

[Katarina LeBlanc]

Oh my fucking god, Muffin is scum.

[Katarina LeBlanc]

If so a vigkill on Serene was possible.

And something catches a man's eye. Why Serene? Did a man miss where scum claimed to have killed Kaze? Please, point this claim out to a man so it can be put to a quick death.

Kaze initiated Gaiden wagon. Why are you desperately trying to over complicate things. I'm sorry but really? Take into account the information I forwarded and the nature of kills.

This isn't multi ball, so only a vigkill would be the plausible explanation for Serene's death (in my eyes at least)
Vig would have no reason to kill Kaze unless he was completely incompenent which I don't expect from this site.

I was reading back because something about the day 1 kills were odd.

VOTE: Varsoon

you need your head checked if you think i'm scum

Yet I can just see you panicking in your daychat right now

oh, right, you don't have that anymore

p-edit: totes PR

The reason Lush hydra didn't openly state that they were cop was because they received the boost from Nacho (The one that doubles the power you're given). Of course they wouldn't claim at that point and crumb the best of their power, they got a guilty and crumbed it so that regardless of what happens we have caught scum. Just that one interaction early in day 2 meant that Muffin was PR'd. I just only thought of this now because my laziness disappeared magically. So right, Muffin -scum back on wagon. Also, the reason Lush didn't out it immediately was because if they low just for one night (which they unfortunately didn't do) they would've had a double inspect the next. High risk, high reward. They bit the bullet but left us with Muffin scum.

[zMuffinMan]

varsoon isn't seriously claiming odd-night vig

[Katarina LeBlanc]

Hey Muffin, the lack of your caps makes it seem like I've caught on to you and you're planning on killing me tonight.

[Katarina LeBlanc]

I buy the oracle claim, but vig seems impossible. Kaze was almost certainly the nightkill, and serene makes no sense as a vig kill.

I think the bad girls got an extra nightkill.

[zMuffinMan]

Also, the reason Lush didn't out it immediately was because if they low just for one night (which they unfortunately didn't do) they would've had a double inspect the next.

you're so far off base

motivate doesn't change how a role works (see AD apparently being motivated and not getting an extra action)

lol

[zMuffinMan]

shut the fuck up with suggestions to lynch bubba

why do you think bubba is town?

[zMuffinMan]

Hey Muffin, the lack of your caps makes it seem like I've caught on to you and you're planning on killing me tonight.

kat, get over it, lush didn't have a guilty on me

i hope you do die tonight just so you get sent to the dead QT to see how bad your read on me has been

[Katarina LeBlanc]

Spoiler: A Play by Play - Voting Patterns Re: Varsoon and Gaiden.

@ 3 Days 11Hrs Remaining

#2035 - Varsoon wagon takes off from L-7 with Lush's vote.
#2039 - Mac's Varsoon Vote - L-6
#2045 - Pie's Varsoon Vote - L-5 - At this point, Varsoon is the lead wagon with a lot of support, closest wagon is L-8 (Gaiden and GCBC).

#2057 - Varsoon's Self-Vote.

(

Varsoon

- ActionDan | Serene | dramonic | Lush Life | Mac | pieguyn | Varsoon) -

L-4

#2081 - Kagami's vote and counter push on Gaiden.

(

Gaiden

- Kazekirimaru | bubbajack8 | Katerina LeBlanc | Kagami) -

L-7

#2096 - Lush gets OFF Varsoon, and onto Bubba.

(

Bubba

- Messiah Complex | Kise | Lush Life) -

L-8

(

Varsoon

- ActionDan | Serene | dramonic | Mac | pieguyn | Varsoon) -

L-5

#2129 - Gaiden votes Bubba

(

Bubba

- Messiah Complex | Kise | Lush Life | Gaiden) -

L-7

#2131 - Tsukasa votes Bubba, defends Gaiden and pushes Bubba to lead wagon over Gaiden

(

Bubba

- Messiah Complex | Kise | Lush Life | Gaiden | Tsukasa) -

L-6

#2137 - GCBC votes Varsoon.

(

Varsoon

- ActionDan | Serene | dramonic | Mac | pieguyn | Varsoon | GCBC) -

L-4

#2144 - Bubba hops OFF Gaiden, onto Kise.

(

Gaiden

- Kazekirimaru | Katerina LeBlanc | Kagami) -

L-8

#2153 - Lush votes Varsoon to get off Bubba

(

Varsoon

- ActionDan | Serene | dramonic | Mac | pieguyn | Varsoon | GCBC | Lush Life) -

L-3

#2154 - CoK votes Varsoon

(

Varsoon

- ActionDan | Serene | dramonic | Mac | pieguyn | Varsoon | GCBC | Lush Life | CoK) -

L-2

#2158 - Varsoon hops OFF Varsoon, onto Dram.

(

Varsoon

- ActionDan | Serene | dramonic | Mac | pieguyn | GCBC | Lush Life | CoK) -

L-3

#2176 - Serene hops OFF Varsoon, onto CoK.

(

Varsoon

- ActionDan | dramonic | Mac | pieguyn | GCBC | Lush Life | CoK) -

L-4

@ 2 Days 3 Hrs Remaining

#2227 - Messiah hops OFF Bubba and votes Gaiden to put Gaiden equal to a Bubba counter.

(

Gaiden

- Kazekirimaru | Katerina LeBlanc | Kagami | Messiah) -

L-7

#2228 - Varsoon votes Gaiden.

(

Gaiden

- Kazekirimaru | Katerina LeBlanc | Kagami | Messiah | Varsoon) -

L-6

#2235 - Jaqen votes Varsoon.

(

Varsoon

- ActionDan | dramonic | Mac | pieguyn | GCBC | Lush Life | CoK | Jaqen) -

L-3

#2242 - Muffin votes Gaiden.

(

Gaiden

- Kazekirimaru | Katerina LeBlanc | Kagami | Messiah | Varsoon | Muffin) -

L-5

#2246 - Bubba votes Gaiden.

(

Gaiden

- Kazekirimaru | Katerina LeBlanc | Kagami | Messiah | Varsoon | Muffin | Bubba) -

L-4

#2277 - Lush Life unvotes Varsoon to tie Gaiden and Varsoon wagons.

(

Varsoon

- ActionDan | dramonic | Mac | pieguyn | GCBC | CoK | Jaqen) -

L-4

#2286 - Pie hops OFF Varsoon onto Dan.

(

Varsoon

- ActionDan | dramonic | Mac | GCBC | CoK | Jaqen) -

L-5

@ 26 Hrs Remaining

#2301 - Lush Life Votes Varsoon to tie up the wagons.

(

Varsoon

- ActionDan | dramonic | Mac | GCBC | CoK | Jaqen | Lush Life) -

L-4

#2324 - Serene votes Gaiden to push Gaiden in the lead.

(

Gaiden

- Kazekirimaru | Katerina LeBlanc | Kagami | Messiah | Varsoon | Muffin | Bubba | Serene) -

L-3

#2325 - Varsoon votes himself, leaving the Gaiden wagon and tying them up.

(

Varsoon

- ActionDan | dramonic | Mac | pieguyn | GCBC | CoK | Jaqen | Lush Life | Varsoon) -

L-3

#2406 - Saki votes Gaiden, pushing Gaiden to the lead and lynch.

(

Gaiden

- Kazekirimaru | Katerina LeBlanc | Kagami | Messiah | Varsoon | Muffin | Bubba | Serene | Saki) -

L-2

Key Points:

Varsoon becomes the lead lynch-wagon with about 3 ish days remaining until deadline voted by Lush, Mac, Pie, Varsoon, and GCBC.
Kagami pushes a counter to Varsoon on Gaiden.
Lush, Gaiden, and Tsukasa push a counter to Varsoon on Bubba. Bubba reaches L-6 to Gaidens L-7. Varsoon gets as low as L-2.

Gaiden becomes a lynch-contender with about 2 ish days remeaining. Voting are Messiah, Varsoon, Muffin, and Bubba.
Gaiden and Varsoon would end up in a tie with Lush's unvote on Varsoon.

With about 26 hours to go and both wagons tied up, Serene breaks the tie in favor of Gaiden, while Varsoon brings the vote back to a tie with a self vote. Saki ends up breaking the tie to lynch Gaiden.

---

I spent way too much time gathering data and formatting, and still have lots of questions to analyze. But here are a few thoughts - Personally, I think Pie's comments re: Gaiden's wagon still ring true to me. A purely town scum-flash wagon doesn't make any sense. I think there was a point that scum decided they were going to drop Gaiden. If I had to guess, I would say it was around post #2221 when Gaiden said he was going to leave them high and dry through the rest of the day phase and through the night phase. Interestingly this is the same point where votes started piling up.

Initial impressions tell me that Saki, Lush, and Muffin's votes are suspect. Also, why did Varsoon tie up his wagon with Gaiden when the tie still would have resulted in a Gaiden lynch?

~GC

I read back on this and remember why GCBC is town.

I just remembered that Sakura Hana slot is Tsukasa, so I don't exactly know how she got town card.

[Katarina LeBlanc]

Hey Muffin, the lack of your caps makes it seem like I've caught on to you and you're planning on killing me tonight.

kat, get over it, lush didn't have a guilty on me

i hope you do die tonight just so you get sent to the dead QT to see how bad your read on me has been

This isn't working this time. I don't care how much you try to push that my read won't change your alignment. You are discrediting the solid evidence that Lush was most definitely copping you. That is

bull-shit.

The way you're discrediting how the Lush hydra wouldn't have copped you is by how you're playing, not by how they did not crumb you.

They did.

Read pages 100 and just whatever Day 2 started with. The only thing that will shut me up is the bullet I'll take from your scumteam.