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[Zdenek]

I approve.

Unvote
Vote: PV

The Red Coyote wagon is better methinks.

Me too, but I can't get anyone over there, so wagon a-hoy!

[Majiffy]

I wasn't referring to wagons. I was talking about who we're thinking about voting and how strongly we're thinking about them.

What's wrong with a Vezok lynch?

[Zdenek]

Vote: DrppingSweatBall

Let's give the man time to post coherently.

Where was that enthusiasm when I was voting SCB?

VOTE: PV

How are these things related?

[PeregrineV]

heh.

we're debating PV and bulba. RC is coming up a distant third.

I had 3 votes, Bulba had 0 votes, and RedCoyote had 1 vote.

How did you acquire your faulty information?

I wasn't referring to wagons. I was talking about who we're thinking about voting and how strongly we're thinking about them.

Ahhh, and the "we" cause you're a hydra too.

OK.

Why those three?

[sekai no ki]

I wasn't referring to wagons. I was talking about who we're thinking about voting and how strongly we're thinking about them.

What's wrong with a Vezok lynch?

I haven't liked his wagon, but pieguy at one time had him in the not-so-town pile. I think the read changed. We need to talk. I was worthless for working through reads yesterday.

[AngryPidgeon]

Don't worry about Aegor, hes the scum that will sneak by to D3 or so before people realize hes just hovering around the thread w/o actually doing anything.

[PeregrineV]

I'm moving on to my other games for a while, but

<insert flail posting>

should cover it.

[sekai no ki]

heh.

we're debating PV and bulba. RC is coming up a distant third.

I had 3 votes, Bulba had 0 votes, and RedCoyote had 1 vote.

How did you acquire your faulty information?

I wasn't referring to wagons. I was talking about who we're thinking about voting and how strongly we're thinking about them.

Ahhh, and the "we" cause you're a hydra too.

OK.

Why those three?

RC because his read change on us squicked me. Pieguy thinks the change could maybe be fueled by town indignation at Mastin's read, so we're less likely to go there.

Bulba because his stance is inconsistent. I explained this yesterday. He's voting svenskt who he has at "scum or anti-town town" while his read on us is full-on scum. He says this is because he doesn't think we're a viable lynch today but I've seldom seen him compromise as early as he did on us when he's town. Given his stance I would have expected him to change his vote when he got into the scuffle with pieguy.

You because you've basically done nothing that makes me think you could be town and you're a scum read that pieguy and I agree on. I'm cautious about my read because if I kept a list of players I'd policy lynch, your name would be on it.

[Zdenek]

I don't find it hard to understand, I just find it dumb.

You know what's dumb?
Ignoring that I've had a vote in play when trying to cut a deal about people and acting like my vig list is also my top scum list when I was voting elsewhere when I made said list.
Derpa.

@Everyone

Since I'm the only one talking about it.
Does ANYONE have an issue with this as the Vig list;

ActionDan
or
Vezok

Speak up now or I'll just assume everyone agrees with me and hold you accountable to that idea.

Well, first of all we have to list three names. Having us agree to all put one or the other down, won't necessarily help that much since there could be some other person who ends up on everyone's list. Perhaps that's fine, but I think we should try to use the kill somewhat strategically even if it is partially random.

For instance, if the person we lynch flips town, then we should

all

put the name of the next largest wagon down or the name of someone under a competing wagon during the day. That will make it more likely that person is killed in the night, and is the sort of thing that will provide us with the most information, even if we ned up with a town flip. We can pick exactly who that person is closer to the end of the day. We could even have secondary unofficial voting to decide on who it is.

As far as the other two votes go, my initial temptation is to say that they should be determined individually and without organization. This will reduce the the chance that they will interfere with the strategic choice and if they happen to at least we've eliminated someone who (most likely) a large number of people find suspicious.

[Majiffy]

I wasn't referring to wagons. I was talking about who we're thinking about voting and how strongly we're thinking about them.

What's wrong with a Vezok lynch?

I haven't liked his wagon

[sekai no ki]

I wasn't referring to wagons. I was talking about who we're thinking about voting and how strongly we're thinking about them.

What's wrong with a Vezok lynch?

I haven't liked his wagon

Even when you're town, how often do you tunnel on town day 1?

My sample size says almost always.

[Aegor]

Vote: DrppingSweatBall

Let's give the man time to post coherently.

Where was that enthusiasm when I was voting SCB?

VOTE: PV

How are these things related?

PV is useless, so I am fine lynching him. And there was a wagon on him. And he could have voted SCB when others were voting SCB instead of placing a completely useless vote.

Don't worry about Aegor, hes the scum that will sneak by to D3 or so before people realize hes just hovering around the thread w/o actually doing anything.

Quoted for posterity.

[Alpazard]

I haven't ISO'd sven yet, I'll get to it tonight. Otherwise I'm finding most of the wagons we've had on town

[Zdenek]

Why are you refusing to look at Red Coyote?

[Zdenek]

And he could have voted SCB when others were voting SCB instead of placing a completely useless vote.

Which vote?

[Aegor]

And he could have voted SCB when others were voting SCB instead of placing a completely useless vote.

Which vote?

His vote on SCB. Which came after AP and I, who had both expressed desire for more SCB votes, moved onto the Alpa and then PV wagons.

[Majiffy]

Even when you're town, how often do you tunnel on town day 1?

My sample size says almost always.

I hit scum every once in a while on D1. Pieguy in Mobile Suit. Other scum in other games I can't remember because I'm not a computer. Etc.

[Majiffy]

Not my fault townies can be scummy and D1's usually aren't scum lynches because town:scum ratio.

[AngryPidgeon]

His vote on SCB. Which came after AP and I, who had both expressed desire for more SCB votes, moved onto the Alpa and then PV wagons.

That isn't bad/scummy though. You are forcing a point against PV over nothing.

[Zdenek]

And he could have voted SCB when others were voting SCB instead of placing a completely useless vote.

Which vote?

His vote on SCB. Which came after AP and I, who had both expressed desire for more SCB votes, moved onto the Alpa and then PV wagons.

So you approve of the vote, but not the timing of it, and you think that he's scum for not leaving his vote on Alpa?

Because that's what I'm getting from your comment.

[Aegor]

His vote on SCB. Which came after AP and I, who had both expressed desire for more SCB votes, moved onto the Alpa and then PV wagons.

That isn't bad/scummy though. You are forcing a point against PV over nothing.

My vote was pretty much a wagon vote. My comment was not actually the reasoning behind my vote. Although it did bother me.

So you approve of the vote, but not the timing of it, and

you think that he's scum for not leaving his vote on Alpa

?

Because that's what I'm getting from your comment.

No to the bolded part. Yes to the rest.

[AngryPidgeon]

My vote was pretty much a wagon vote. My comment was not actually the reasoning behind my vote. Although it did bother me.

[Aegor]

My vote was pretty much a wagon vote. My comment was not actually the reasoning behind my vote. Although it did bother me.

Or not. You really should not infer anything from my posts. I will make explicit everything that is relevant. Inferring that my vote on PV followed from my previous statement is already too much inference. But I doubt this will convince you anyway.

[vezokpiraka]

I wasn't referring to wagons. I was talking about who we're thinking about voting and how strongly we're thinking about them.

What's wrong with a Vezok lynch?

Lynching town is never good.

Look at my ISO and tell me what posts do you feel come from a scum mindset.

[AngryPidgeon]

Or not. You really should not infer anything from my posts. I will make explicit everything that is relevant. Inferring that my vote on PV followed from my previous statement is already too much inference. But I doubt this will convince you anyway.

I never said I cared why you are voting Pv. I said your point against him is bad. And you then proceeded to distance from your point against him by saying it had nothing to do with your vote instead of actually defending your point.