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Post Post #1450 (ISO) » Wed Mar 05, 2014 8:10 am

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In post 1448, vezokpiraka wrote:Look at my ISO and tell me what posts do you feel come from a scum mindset.
Burden of proof, BULLSHIT.

People have been doing this all game around the thread by the by.
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Post Post #1451 (ISO) » Wed Mar 05, 2014 8:13 am

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In post 1448, vezokpiraka wrote:Look at my ISO and tell me what posts do you feel come from a scum mindset.
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Post Post #1452 (ISO) » Wed Mar 05, 2014 8:14 am

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I'll illustrate an actual case later when I'm not feeling incredibly lazy.
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Post Post #1453 (ISO) » Wed Mar 05, 2014 8:15 am

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In post 1419, Thor665 wrote:
In post 1389, Majiffy wrote:I don't find it hard to understand, I just find it dumb.
You know what's dumb?
Ignoring that I've had a vote in play when trying to cut a deal about people and acting like my vig list is also my top scum list when I was voting elsewhere when I made said list.
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Since I'm the only one talking about it.
Does ANYONE have an issue with this as the Vig list;

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Speak up now or I'll just assume everyone agrees with me and hold you accountable to that idea.
I object. Also one would think scum have a way of let's say DISRUPTING this (aka look at the precursor this mechanic and draw a parallel) anyway. So I think it'd be much more productive to have everyone do w/e and be held accountable later. instead of "I follows plan and vigs these people teeheehee"
I'll give you a moment to let that sink in
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Post Post #1454 (ISO) » Wed Mar 05, 2014 8:16 am

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1)Scum have a way of messing with the mechanic (probably).
2) Therefore we shouldn't coordinate at all.

Uhhhhh. Ok Dan. You go on doing your thing. Can you help me lynch Vezok?
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Post Post #1455 (ISO) » Wed Mar 05, 2014 8:17 am

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I'm pretty sure that we should try to use the NK effectively until that doesn't work.
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Post Post #1456 (ISO) » Wed Mar 05, 2014 8:19 am

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I'd rather kill off Vez than Alhazard.

God knows what Peregrine is
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Post Post #1457 (ISO) » Wed Mar 05, 2014 8:21 am

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In post 1449, AngryPidgeon wrote:I never said I cared why you are voting Pv. I said your point against him is bad. And you then proceeded to distance from your point against him by saying it had nothing to do with your vote instead of actually defending your point.
I already explained my point. You said it was neither bad nor scummy. I cannot defend it further against such vague counterpoints, and your expectation that I will is misguided. And you are completely wrong when you claim I am distancing. It did have nothing to do with my vote, which would have come regardless of whether PV voted SCB.
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Post Post #1458 (ISO) » Wed Mar 05, 2014 8:23 am

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In post 1456, ActionDan wrote:God knows what Peregrine is
Peregrine is a distraction from people who are actually scum.
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Post Post #1459 (ISO) » Wed Mar 05, 2014 8:26 am

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In post 1457, Aegor wrote:I already explained my point. You said it was neither bad nor scummy. I cannot defend it further against such vague counterpoints, and your expectation that I will is misguided. And you are completely wrong when you claim I am distancing. It did have nothing to do with my vote, which would have come regardless of whether PV voted SCB.
Typically one would explain exactly why it was scummy of PV to do that instead of throwing in the towel about a point you thought relevant enough to bring up and asserting that your vote had nothing to do with it.

And did it not occur to you that DGB did something RECENT that made Pv want to vote her?
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Post Post #1460 (ISO) » Wed Mar 05, 2014 8:30 am

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In post 1422, AngryPidgeon wrote:
In post 1421, pidgey wrote:If i remember correctly i was town and he was so fuckin wrong.
Not only were you town, you were cop confirmed town and we lynched you anyways.
Yup. And I hard defended him during the whole process too.
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Post Post #1461 (ISO) » Wed Mar 05, 2014 8:38 am

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In post 1424, Majiffy wrote:
In post 1419, Thor665 wrote: Does ANYONE have an issue with this as the Vig list;

ActionDan
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Vezok
I do.

I wanna lynch Vezok D1.
So, let's say magic happens and we lynch Vezok.
Are you happy with an Action Dan zombie feeding?
In post 1433, Zdenek wrote:Well, first of all we have to list three names. Having us agree to all put one or the other down, won't necessarily help that much since there could be some other person who ends up on everyone's list. Perhaps that's fine, but I think we should try to use the kill somewhat strategically even if it is partially random.
A decent enough point, though I wish someone I wasn't town reading had pointed it out, who would you include as a third?

I'll toss out Red Coyote.

Anyone with an issue of that one?

I'd love to have Vezo, RC, or Action Dan flipped.
In post 1453, ActionDan wrote:I object. Also one would think scum have a way of let's say DISRUPTING this (aka look at the precursor this mechanic and draw a parallel) anyway. So I think it'd be much more productive to have everyone do w/e and be held accountable later. instead of "I follows plan and vigs these people teeheehee"
Yes, Dan, we all understand you're the most likely scum on the list and that it spooks you.

I'm not hearing much real issue with the;

Vezo
Action Dan
Red Coyote

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Post Post #1462 (ISO) » Wed Mar 05, 2014 8:39 am

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In post 1459, AngryPidgeon wrote:Typically one would explain exactly why it was scummy of PV to do that instead of throwing in the towel about a point you thought relevant enough to bring up and asserting that your vote had nothing to do with it.
Because there was no explanation for a vote moved to someone with zero votes, and there was no trajectory either.

And did it not occur to you that DGB did something RECENT that made Pv want to vote her?
Given that I am reading the thread, no. You are more than welcome to go back to your vote on SCB and start reading from there. The answer should pop right out at you.
In post 1076, SweatingChessball3 wrote:@ActionDan: can't you see that AngryPidgeon is scum?
@Sven: you're voting a townie, stahp.
@NeroCain & RedCoyote: you're voting a townie, stahp.

The two largest wagons are on townies, ie Sven & vezok.

Alpazard wagon looks clean.
PeregrineV is scum
. Two scums are presently voting for Sven, who is obvtown: PereV & Alpazard.
In post 1174, PeregrineV wrote:Ok caught up.
You tell me what "recent" thing SCB could have done. PV had plenty of time to change his vote while we were still voting and did not. He changed it only after the Alp wagon formed, and SCB had not posted anything since then anyway. Nice try, though.
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Post Post #1463 (ISO) » Wed Mar 05, 2014 8:41 am

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Post Post #1464 (ISO) » Wed Mar 05, 2014 8:48 am

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In post 1456, ActionDan wrote:I'd rather kill off Vez than Alhazard.
Then vote him?
In post 1461, Thor665 wrote:So, let's say magic happens and we lynch Vezok.
Are you happy with an Action Dan zombie feeding?
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Post Post #1465 (ISO) » Wed Mar 05, 2014 8:50 am

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In post 1461, Thor665 wrote:Vezo
Action Dan
Red Coyote
Of those three I've been least inclined to target Action Dan, mostly because I want posts to happen between him and chesskid. But, the apparent lack of chesskid in the thread and what I have to go on re Action Dan doesn't make me happy with either of them.
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Post Post #1466 (ISO) » Wed Mar 05, 2014 8:58 am

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I will take all of the above as endorsement.
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Post Post #1467 (ISO) » Wed Mar 05, 2014 9:00 am

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Ffery when are you going to Learn to Stop Worrying and Love the Flowchart?
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Post Post #1468 (ISO) » Wed Mar 05, 2014 9:00 am

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In post 1466, Thor665 wrote:I will take all of the above as endorsement.
Now that you have my vote on an AD vig can I have your vote for a Vezok lynch?
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Post Post #1469 (ISO) » Wed Mar 05, 2014 9:01 am

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I personally am not feeling Red Coyote, but the others are ok.
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Post Post #1470 (ISO) » Wed Mar 05, 2014 9:04 am

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In post 1467, Majiffy wrote:Ffery when are you going to Learn to Stop Worrying and Love the Flowchart?
I don't think I'll ever get tired of refining my own methodology.
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Post Post #1471 (ISO) » Wed Mar 05, 2014 9:08 am

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In post 1469, AngryPidgeon wrote:I personally am not feeling Red Coyote, but the others are ok.
Who would you proffer as a name that is a more obvious lurksack who needs death?
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Post Post #1472 (ISO) » Wed Mar 05, 2014 9:10 am

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Id put BBMolla in that list instead of either Red Coyote or Action Dan.
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Post Post #1473 (ISO) » Wed Mar 05, 2014 9:16 am

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In post 1470, sekai no ki wrote:
In post 1467, Majiffy wrote:Ffery when are you going to Learn to Stop Worrying and Love the Flowchart?
I don't think I'll ever get tired of refining my own methodology.
Let me help you out with that.

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Post Post #1474 (ISO) » Wed Mar 05, 2014 9:18 am

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