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Post Post #1525 (ISO) » Wed Mar 05, 2014 11:16 am

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In post 1522, sekai no ki wrote:well, he did claim not to be able to read me just now. Which doesn't line up very well with the post you just quoted where he said he'd switch to us in a heartbeat, now does it?
I can easily see that coming from town.

Because the only reason he said he doesn't read you well is because you were calling him scum for scumreading you in the first place. I mean, what is he going to say about that, lol. Its not elegant, but I dont see anything scummy.

I DO see you trying to shove an inconsistency case on him over a response he gave when you called him scum purely for misreading you.
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Post Post #1526 (ISO) » Wed Mar 05, 2014 11:16 am

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In post 1506, sekai no ki wrote: Are you actually saying that I'm harder to read than Cabd?
You're about the same.
In post 1510, sekai no ki wrote:
In post 893, Bulbazak wrote:@Ffery: Why did you have to role scum this game?
In post 1501, Bulbazak wrote:Ffery, it's no secret that I can't read you. I've stated this over and over. Heck, I can't even read Cabd, and we've hydra'd together. I was only able to catch him recently via an inconsistency, and I still wasn't confident enough to push it. Perhaps if I did, we would have won that game. You are, and probably always will be, one of those players that I take my time in devoloping a read on.
I'll just leave this here.
The first was after I had finally gotten my scumread on your slot. The second was a statement that I have a hard time reading you. The 2 are not incompatible. Besides, my scumread of your hydra came from the Pie head. I wasn't making any progress trying to read your head.
In post 1511, mastin2 wrote:The only thing freaking me out about Bulbazak is exactly how in-line his thoughts are with mine.
That's actually why I have a townread on you, to be honest. Someone's thoughts lining up with mine, especially when I haven't telegraphed them, is a very good sign.
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Post Post #1527 (ISO) » Wed Mar 05, 2014 11:21 am

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Speaking of inconsistencies, ffery is still voting for Alpazard. If that vote is still being useless in the next 10 minutes, Im turning ffery into a Hated until death do us part.
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Post Post #1528 (ISO) » Wed Mar 05, 2014 11:22 am

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In post 1525, AngryPidgeon wrote:
In post 1522, sekai no ki wrote:well, he did claim not to be able to read me just now. Which doesn't line up very well with the post you just quoted where he said he'd switch to us in a heartbeat, now does it?
I can easily see that coming from town.

Because the only reason he said he doesn't read you well is because you were calling him scum for scumreading you in the first place. I mean, what is he going to say about that, lol. Its not elegant, but I dont see anything scummy.

I DO see you trying to shove an inconsistency case on him over a response he gave when you called him scum purely for misreading you.
Sorry, AP.

Your whole defense of him hinges on that post being a joke and him not scumreading us at that point. And he just invalidated that.

But, bulba not letting you fight his fight for him actually does look a lot more town than if he'd done otherwise.
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Post Post #1529 (ISO) » Wed Mar 05, 2014 11:23 am

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In post 1527, AngryPidgeon wrote:Speaking of inconsistencies, ffery is still voting for Alpazard. If that vote is still being useless in the next 10 minutes, Im turning ffery into a Hated until death do us part.
Do it now, then. I'd unvote if Alpazard were in any danger at this point, but I'm not going to put my vote somewhere else until pieguy and I catch up sometime later today.
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Post Post #1530 (ISO) » Wed Mar 05, 2014 11:23 am

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In post 1528, sekai no ki wrote:bulba not letting you fight his fight for him
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(neither scum nor town tell)

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Object o = null;

return null;

perror("You cant actually believe this is a towntell, the actual fuck");
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Post Post #1531 (ISO) » Wed Mar 05, 2014 11:27 am

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Not a towntell, no. But you have repeatedly given him answers to my pushes and questions, and he's come up with bulba-answers rather than channeling you every time.

It's more than enough for me to move on for now.

And like I said earlier, you really should let players answer on their own.

You're so blindly tunneling at this point that you don't even give a fuck about screwing up a line of questioning. No matter what my alignment, bulba's answers should help you and other players firm up a read on him.
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Post Post #1532 (ISO) » Wed Mar 05, 2014 11:31 am

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Pardon me, I didn't realize you think scum-bulbazak is a complete dumbass, incapable of coming up with the most rudimentary defenses to such accusations as

"You are scum for scumreading me and having modded a scumgame of mine" to which "I didnt read the game" would have been a valid defense".

God damn bulba, are you really that SHIT at playing scum?
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Post Post #1533 (ISO) » Wed Mar 05, 2014 11:35 am

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In post 1532, AngryPidgeon wrote: God damn bulba, are you really that SHIT at playing scum?
You comodded Maniacal. What do you think?

Now if you excuse me, I have to finish up my takeover of Hell.
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Post Post #1534 (ISO) » Wed Mar 05, 2014 11:37 am

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In post 1533, Bulbazak wrote:God damn bulba, are you really that SHIT at playing scum?


You comodded Maniacal. What do you think?
Did you already forget that he doesn't believe moderators read their own games well enough to glean anything at all about the players?
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Post Post #1535 (ISO) » Wed Mar 05, 2014 11:38 am

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Post Post #1536 (ISO) » Wed Mar 05, 2014 11:41 am

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Can we lynch Vezok FFS. Today ended like 4 days ago.
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Post Post #1537 (ISO) » Wed Mar 05, 2014 11:43 am

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I need to go back to not reading Bulba's posts.
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Post Post #1538 (ISO) » Wed Mar 05, 2014 11:43 am

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In post 1536, AngryPidgeon wrote:Can we lynch Vezok FFS. Today ended like 4 days ago.
This tbh. It's like we're in twilight without an actual lynch wagon.
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Post Post #1539 (ISO) » Wed Mar 05, 2014 12:02 pm

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In post 1524, Zdenek wrote:
In post 1523, BBmolla wrote:
In post 1504, Zdenek wrote:My current list of people who are likely scum are almost all people who are going to be nigh on impossible to lynch today, which is rather depressing.
Who?
Pidgey, RC, SnK.
SCBK3 doesn't look great, but idk.
I disagree on SnK but I'll put in a vig thing for the other two if you want
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Post Post #1540 (ISO) » Wed Mar 05, 2014 12:51 pm

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Zdenek you're gay and you should see me as your town brother
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Post Post #1541 (ISO) » Wed Mar 05, 2014 12:53 pm

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In post 1536, AngryPidgeon wrote:Can we lynch Vezok FFS. Today ended like 4 days ago.
Seriously this.

I mean we are not getting anywhere and just going in circles, we have to lynch someone. Viable options of the day seem to be boiling down to PV and Vezok at the time.

We should be voting one of them soon.
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Post Post #1542 (ISO) » Wed Mar 05, 2014 12:54 pm

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If we're ending the day in under 24 I'll prep a wall for you guys coming into D2 with my thoughts and townbloc tiers.
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Post Post #1543 (ISO) » Wed Mar 05, 2014 12:59 pm

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Enough with the lynch impatience that paradoxically tries to shift the momentum from PV back to vezok.

We have a fantabulous wagon on PV. Let's not waste a good thing. Just look at how fast the scum bus'ed.
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Post Post #1544 (ISO) » Wed Mar 05, 2014 1:01 pm

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In post 1543, SweatingChessball3 wrote:Enough with the lynch impatience that paradoxically tries to shift the momentum from PV back to vezok.
There are about 24 hours left before I just start blatantly sheeping the largest wagon.

So whatever floats everyones boat.
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Post Post #1545 (ISO) » Wed Mar 05, 2014 1:07 pm

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In post 1543, SweatingChessball3 wrote:Just look at how fast the scum
cw'ed.
You're right! This is why we should lynch Vezok.
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Post Post #1546 (ISO) » Wed Mar 05, 2014 1:32 pm

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In post 1472, pidgey wrote:Id put BBMolla in that list instead of either Red Coyote or Action Dan.
You can bump Red Coyote then, no one is bumping Action Dan.
In post 1475, AngryPidgeon wrote:Lol.

I sort of want Aegor or DGB then?

Tbph Molla isn't bad.
We'll never get the DGB to sail because people are nuthugging there.
Let's go with Molla, no one cares about him and he's almost a sad lurksack as well, so fits my criteria.
In post 1486, Bulbazak wrote:I do. RC is town.
:neutral:
Fine, we'll switch it to Molla - if he is also a town read of yours I don't care, because clearly your reads are weak.

To Clarify - this is the zombine Nom list


Vezok
Action Dan
BBMolla

People doing other votes than the above should be seriously looked upon as skeevy and anti-town.
Frankly, the three above are the only ones I'd accept deviating from the list, and they should still vote the other two at the very least.


I will admit to being somewhat in mental line with Zdenek and AP (sorta mushy between them) Really I want DGB dead, but people are too scared to do that for some reason. I don't have particular issue with either of the other current wagons. I'll admit that Alpalurcksackterrible's meta has somewhat sold me. It's not as cut and dry as he claimed, but he does seem to normally react differently as scum to the point I don't want him lynched despite his poor play. I don't oppose the Pere lynch, though I can't describe the case on him. I mildly oppose the Vezok lynch because it's mostly existing due to policy and, hey, we have a ruddy vig system so policy lynches are sort of extra 'meh' at this stage.
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Post Post #1547 (ISO) » Wed Mar 05, 2014 1:34 pm

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I still don't get why people consider controlled vig kills any different from lynches. Ever. But they do.
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Post Post #1548 (ISO) » Wed Mar 05, 2014 1:34 pm

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We're going to

VOTE: Vezok


Consensus-wise we are pretty much equally happy with a PV lynch.

pie is still scumreading the hell out of mastin. My bulba read has softened mostly because he didn't take the opportunity to wave off a discrepancy.
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Post Post #1549 (ISO) » Wed Mar 05, 2014 1:51 pm

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Thor please take me off the list, I'm important, thank you.
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