The Reckoning III (Math is Hard) Holy crap, perfect town win

[pirate mollie]

walk me through it cos idgi

http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.ph ... 1#p5723941

I agree with all of that except mebbe it is why he was a special?

did you just see that eagle things post and how can you find it not scummy

[pirate mollie]

danny feels less scummy than eagle people.

why are you on about this

[ChannelDelibird]

I agree with all of that except mebbe it is why he was a special?

Not sure I get what you're saying here.

did you just see that eagle things post and how can you find it not scummy

I saw it. I certainly haven't developed any kind of townread on Eaglekit yet but I'm not sure that I see any reason jumping out why their behaviour is particularly more likely to come from scum than town. I'm not going to fact-check things like them talking about the meta discussion with you and Waffles because that whole argument made me want to hit my head against a wall and I have no interest in revisiting it now. They're in my 'could vote' list, sure, but I have an actual scumread on Dan for actual reasons, while some of my townreads agree and support it, so I have no interest in moving my vote to Eaglekit.

PEDIT: What do you mean, why am I on about this? I'm on about it because he's my top scumread and I want him dead! Are you going to suggest that I'm somehow suspicious for my top scumread not being the same as yours? The same goes for the vast majority of this game!

[Eleven]

hey desp, got any thoughts on anything not related to mollie?

[EagleKit]

Eaglekit, could you get an avatar please? Should you not have one to hand, here's me removing the excuse.

thanks

[EagleKit]

hey desp, got any thoughts on anything not related to mollie?

not a ton; she's the only read i feel strongly enough about to push

i do have a theory but it's developmental and not worth talking about right now

[InflatablePie]

so I don't quite know why people think CDB is scum? I mean I didn't really have a read on him for a while (there was one

small

thing that I caught that might've been scummy but other than that, nothing) but his posts the past day or twoish haven't struck me as scummy so unless I'm missing something he seems like some sort of... compromise wagon? is that the right phrase? I mean I may disagree with him (e.g. wagoning Nuwen 488) but nothing's jumped out at me that makes me want to lynch it.

I could go and see who's been pushing his lynch all lazy-like since it's probably more likely there's scum doing

that

than him being scum, but I can't be assed to right now because DRINKING so I'll believe and sheep whoever wants to do the hard work <3

but in the meantime Triforce vote is fine. I could maaaaybe vote Axxle or something because he's been pretty useless the past few pages but I feel like I've voted him for being useless and he's flipped town a bunch

plus

I already yelled at someone earlier for doing that so I dunno. ythan should shoot him if he has another shot IMO.

Also Gamma is givin me the willie nillies not because he's scummy but because he's being useful which is anti gamma meta. like it's not town or scum it's just not gamma

I dunno, I've seen "WIFOM Gamma" at least once or twice and this is what he's doing here, so I think he's pretty town (see: .

wish I could care more about this game but I'm just super lazy.

[InflatablePie]

I meant to put an example after the Gamma thing but then I forgot and now I'm lazy.

)

[ChannelDelibird]

hey Pie

you know whose scumread on me is all kinds of shitty

ActionDan

[pirate mollie]

hey desp, got any thoughts on anything not related to mollie?

not a ton; she's the only read i feel strongly enough about to push

i do have a theory but it's developmental and not worth talking about right now

you feel strongly that I am scum?

it is worthy of talking about considering your vote

[EagleKit]

you feel strongly that I am scum?

it is worthy of talking about considering your vote

yes

the theory isn't about you

[pirate mollie]

you feel strongly that I am scum?

it is worthy of talking about considering your vote

yes

the theory isn't about you

then why are you voting me?

[Axxle]

you feel strongly that I am scum?

it is worthy of talking about considering your vote

yes

the theory isn't about you

then why are you voting me?

you feel strongly that I am scum?

yes

[Gammagooey]

cdb explainage just 4 iecerint

im voting cdb because his early posts seemed like they were trying pretty hard to do something in the early early game when it didn't seem completely appropriate and just kind of felt a little off and his thing with being frustrated with iec about me was a little gut scummy

also

I dunno, I've seen "WIFOM Gamma" at least once or twice and this is what he's doing here, so I think he's pretty town (see: .

hahaaaaa
take that dude/ettes insinuating things about my play

[Iecerint]

It's OK, CDB is gut-scummy to me, too, so I can see into your pure heart due to narcissism.

[Iecerint]

(He's less gut scummy than ACTIONDAN, tho, so he is the enemy of my enemy, even though this game is probz black and red unf.)

[A Simple Math Problem]

something something something votecount

Vote Count 1.14

Your New Gay Overlords

(0)

Eleven

(1) Gammagooey

Iecerint

(0)

Cheery Dog

(0)

Untrod Tripod

(0)

Gammagooey

(0)

InflatablePie

(0)

Nuwen

(0)

Ythan

(0)

Axxle

(1) Porochaz

ActionDan

(3) ChannelDelibird, Eleven, Iecerint

Sir Waffles Wafflington

(0)

eaglekit

(2) Triforce, pirate mollie

pirate mollie

(2) eaglekit, Axxle

Porochaz

(0)

ChannelDelibird

(2) Ythan, Untrod Tripod

Triforce

(4)

InflatablePie, Fate, Nuwen, Your New Gay Overlords

Fate

(0)

Not Voting

(3) ActionDan, Sir Waffles Wafflington, Cheery Dog

With 18 alive, it takes 10 to lynch.

Deadline: March 22nd @ 3PM Commune Time

[Gammagooey]

eh AD doesn't seem bad to me but he's not a town read either

so i'm pretty much just gonna watch other people have opinions on him and see if they or him do alignmenty things

[Sir Waffles Wafflington]

Allow me to channel my other head a sec...

AAAAAAAAAAAAAH!

Desperado you are continuing to kill me. See that huddled mass in the corner there? Look closer. Yep, that's me and nope I'm not losing my religion, I'm crying for my fucking mommy.

I felt really good about mollie!scum until last night when I started reading her as town and then you show up and have my head spinning.

Here's the thing. I'm having a big problem seeing eagle as scum. Trifocals kinda insinuated with their question to eagle that he was following my read on mollie and I just can't see scum!desperado doing that to town!mollie. They've played a good number of games ogether and hydra together so there are certain expectations that mollie has for how desperado will behave and interact with her. It would be much easier for scum!desperado to give mollie what she's expecting from him and manipulate her instead of turn the eye of mordor on him by voting her and coming after her. I would just really expect in the situation that was unfolding for him to agree that yes I looked really scummy or maybe try to mediate or something. Idk, just not what he's doing. I mean I'm not the best reader of desperado, but the eagerness of his scum read feels really genuine.

I suppose some of this might fall apart if this is multiball, but Mina got the impression that it wasn't so I don't know.

ANYWAY I think eagle kit is town right now.

I don't. Like action dance, triforce, than or cheery dog and would be happy to wagon any of those. Mostly my dislike of cheery comes from not liking triforce and feeling a bit twitchy at them mentioning that eagles mollie vote was terribad and not even noticing cheery dogs vote too. Also cherry interaction with mollie felt kinda weird. Action dan is a hard person to read these days and I wish he'd go back to his old playstyle because he was easier to interact with than he is now, but I've developed a couple markers for town dan and he's shown none of them so far. Yah tan is just gut.

I'm confused by people's scum reads on reck because he doesn't feel anything like my partner in the red wedding, not in tone or activity.

I think Nuwen is town mostly because she had a post that said Nya Nya boo boo or something and it made me laugh but I didn't understand one of her posts, it had // and --> with people's names and this is mostly here as a reminder for me to ask her to translate that post, maybe.

Fates town, iecerent is town, faraday is probably town (I think you're town faraday, I just don't feel as confident as I did last weeks game), oh and ut is probs town.

Starting tomorrow I'll stop sucking at being a hydra partner, but I'm juggling too many things right now.

[Sir Waffles Wafflington]

Fate, iec, Ythan, Waffles, mollie
Gamma, Axxle,, Nuwen (basically cos fate says so but)
PORO/UT/PIE/CDB
Triforce/Eagle/GAY
Action, Cheery

Huh. Sorting it out like that, I feel fairly confident/town as fuck in some cases about the top 2 lines and like confidentish for the moment about line 3. Some minor disagreements in order between us but that doesn't particularly matter.

(Hey, Mina, kittymo doesn't actually think you're obvtown, how about you start making good posts so I can give her something beyond "tammy's being a bit mental and the PM thing at the start seem Mina town". PLZ raise the standard of your posts, tyvm)

Um what's keeping kittymo from reading me herself? In last weeks game, week before last?, she said that she felt like she read me better than most on Skype and was able to read me based on my voice.

[Sir Waffles Wafflington]

I guess the one thing that does seem weird about reck is Grimm? Not posting. Am I wrong that he hates being scum and isn't very good at it?

[Sir Waffles Wafflington]

Oh yeah gamma feels kinda like he did in the wizard game, so um yeah don't know what I'm feeling about that but not too alarmed by his posting.

And I still like cdb

[Eleven]

Grimm hates posting in every game I've seen him. Also that's not the only thing that seems weird about reck at all lately, some of his stances have been atrocious.

[Eleven]

Um what's keeping kittymo from reading me herself? In last weeks game, week before last?, she said that she felt like she read me better than most on Skype and was able to read me based on my voice.

Actually the voice clips you've posted so far don't work for us; I think that's the thing she's struggling with, mostly. (Nothing's "keeping her from reading you", other than she's deferring to my read. Oh, and it was a good chance to throw a barb at mina about her posts, since her LOL FAKE PARANOIA last night was stupid)

[Eleven]

Oh, and whomeer said multi faction, this is a 19 player game, don't be silly. Your PM is probably misleading you!