The Reckoning III (Math is Hard) Holy crap, perfect town win


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Post Post #825 (ISO) » Fri Mar 07, 2014 3:04 pm

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In post 821, Cheery Dog wrote:That's not a very good reason to call someone town.
It's the best reason!
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In post 820, Sir Waffles Wafflington wrote:UT - If I didn't already think you were town, I'd call you town right now just because of how hard you made me laugh.
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Post Post #826 (ISO) » Fri Mar 07, 2014 3:10 pm

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Alright so here's the deal. We're not really invested in this game because of shitty Day 1 shenanigans, and if we're going to get lynched because of "trollolol don't care!"/"they ask too many questions as part of the way singer scumhunts and that looks ~suspicious~" then whatever. We figured it was worth playing because there are lots of new people we haven't played with before, and maybe some of the same people wouldn't make the same mistakes as Balto meet, but apparently that's not the case.

We're Shea Trying Get Everyone To Wear Green Shirts. Our official role is Green-Shirt Giver, and we're a modified survivor.

We can give someone a Green Shirt every night. That person gets doc-protected that night, and then we become immune to abilities from them for the rest of the game. We win if we're alive at the end of the game.
We investigate as not-mafia, not-werewolf, etc.
If someone we have given a shirt to dies, they flip their normal role + a note that they were wearing a green shirt.
People we give shirts to will be told they were given a shirt.

We're not going to bother waiting to be rung up to L-1 and wasting people's time and effort, including our own.
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Post Post #827 (ISO) » Fri Mar 07, 2014 3:33 pm

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Slightly premature considering (I think) the people who had suspicion of you were already voting you.

Anyway having read through the whole game, I am really happy with my Axxle vote, I haven't seen anything town from him yet. A lot of votes, little reasoning, even the little he has given has been a bit shitty. A little bit of sheeping and generally just a scummy demeanor.

Actiondan would be second, he seems to have all but disappeared since suspicion was placed on him.

Eaglekit has been off but I don't know Desperados play. I haven't liked what I've seen so far. Waiting for Mala to appease my fears.

As for the rest, its an unpopular stance but CDB is relatively town, his frustration at the awful wagon is evident. Mollie is clearly town. Fate can be town as well, not as convinced but can't see him taking the actions he has as town. Then there are the obvious townies like Ythan, Iec.

Pie was quite scummy, and who I was referencing before, but he made a post which collated a large amount of my thoughts almost to the letter, that doesn't make him auto-town, but its comforting when you've read the first half of a game where people have given the opposite reads to what you have.

There is still a lot of null people in this game for me. I really want Nuwen to show me some sort of basis of which I can read her. I want the hydras to separate a bit so it stops being confusing and I want Reck to get off the defence.
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Post Post #828 (ISO) » Fri Mar 07, 2014 3:34 pm

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I am done. Now if I don't post for a few days its cause Im recovering.
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Post Post #829 (ISO) » Fri Mar 07, 2014 3:37 pm

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In post 826, Triforce wrote:We figured it was worth playing because there are lots of new people we haven't played with before, and maybe some of the same people wouldn't make the same mistakes as Balto meet, but apparently that's not the case.
This might make sense if you were like, town, but seeing as you're not?
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Post Post #830 (ISO) » Fri Mar 07, 2014 3:40 pm

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Was that a thing btw, like I know it's A THING but was it a meet thing, kittymo and me were p hungover that day so have about 0 reccollection. (I only ask cos it definitely seems like the type of fakeclaim Glork would come up with).

The ability is certainly testable, even if the alignment is not and survivor's are scum in lylo.

I'm not actually sure why they'd claim survivor as scum, but I'm not really sure why they'd claim survivor as survivor either. (Are they even the top wagon by as significant amount).

Strange, they probably need to die - but I am pretty ready to make action man die today (look at his scum fuck ass avoid the thread) so kinda just want to do that.
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Post Post #831 (ISO) » Fri Mar 07, 2014 3:41 pm

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In post 825, Sir Waffles Wafflington wrote:
In post 822, Untrod Tripod wrote:
In post 820, Sir Waffles Wafflington wrote:UT - If I didn't already think you were town, I'd call you town right now just because of how hard you made me laugh.
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Post Post #832 (ISO) » Fri Mar 07, 2014 3:42 pm

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Basically my point is you should all vote actiondan so I can be a smug cunt for the rest of the game.
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Post Post #833 (ISO) » Fri Mar 07, 2014 3:46 pm

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(A town hammerer + survivor would be a weird combination, admittedly, but I could see stranger things + it's possible the full implications of it weren't thought out? Dunno)
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Post Post #834 (ISO) » Fri Mar 07, 2014 3:47 pm

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I'm just really out of fucks to give at this point

neither axxle or dan are worth keeping around

also counterpoint: the hammerer makes a hell of a lot more sense as a scum role than a town role
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Post Post #835 (ISO) » Fri Mar 07, 2014 3:48 pm

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We'd actually been toying with the idea of being upfront about the claim just because chances of us winning are slim anyway, you know my alignment at heart is always town, and it's definitely not worth losing sleep over.

Shea's obsession with GST was clearly a thing since we're not lying, but we didn't submit it so someone else can confirm that for us.

We obviously won't make it to lylo so that doesn't even need to be thing.
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Post Post #836 (ISO) » Fri Mar 07, 2014 3:48 pm

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From a game theory perspective I do agree, Iecerint looks pretty town though, y/n?
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Post Post #837 (ISO) » Fri Mar 07, 2014 3:50 pm

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meh

let's lynch him

it makes a hell of a lot of sense from a utility perspective tbqh especially when today has been such a clusterfuck of halfhearted reads
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Post Post #838 (ISO) » Fri Mar 07, 2014 3:51 pm

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From a perspective of wanting to lynch people, IMO we should lynch actiondan.
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Post Post #839 (ISO) » Fri Mar 07, 2014 3:51 pm

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Well I guess that's OK, too.

That's an awfully scummy thing to say, though, UT. Even though it's not technically wrong. Least bad WCS, etc.
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Post Post #840 (ISO) » Fri Mar 07, 2014 3:52 pm

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But there might be a vanillaizer or something who can fix me. WHO CAN SAY.

No, not a crumb. But Reck's role interacts with mine in nice ways so.
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Post Post #841 (ISO) » Fri Mar 07, 2014 3:56 pm

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In post 839, Iecerint wrote:Well I guess that's OK, too.

That's an awfully scummy thing to say, though, UT. Even though it's not technically wrong. Least bad WCS, etc.
what? the fuck it isn't

scum should be climbing all over themselves to keep you in the game
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Post Post #842 (ISO) » Fri Mar 07, 2014 3:57 pm

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In post 841, Untrod Tripod wrote:
In post 839, Iecerint wrote:Well I guess that's OK, too.

That's an awfully scummy thing to say, though, UT. Even though it's not technically wrong. Least bad WCS, etc.
what the fuck? it isn't

scum should be climbing all over themselves to keep you in the game
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Post Post #843 (ISO) » Fri Mar 07, 2014 3:59 pm

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Hmm, maybe.

See when I'm scum I always make arguments that are like "WELL ACCORDING TO MY MATHEMATICAL MODEL LYNCHING THIS PERSON WILL BE ADVANTAGEOUS DUE TO P < 0.05" and people are like but that person is town and i am like WELL MATHS LALALA PEOPLE'S ACTUAL ALIGNMENT IS IRRELEVANT and your approach was kind of like that.
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Post Post #844 (ISO) » Fri Mar 07, 2014 3:59 pm

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I mean I have also done that more than 2 times as town but as a result of doing that more than 5 times as scum when i read people doing that i think HMM SOUNDS LIKE SCUMS TO ME.

That is what I mean.
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Post Post #845 (ISO) » Fri Mar 07, 2014 4:01 pm

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It depends if you think we can win before lylo, I am pretty sure we can - it's more of a false thingy anyway? We're at an even number atm so it's not a big deal + lynching iec who I think is town in return for stopping his role being anti town is like not a trade I think is worth it, particularly day 1 when I think utility lynches are the worst idea, since you want legit stances on a actual lynch. (Probably why I think policy day 1 lynches or whatever are dumb).

There;s a bunch of fairly scummy players, anyway.


Actually less sure about cheery dog lately, although eh, some of his early stuff still looked a bit force. I really don't want to have to meta him for a baseline though, that sounds unfun so I think I'll just hope someone else can do it.
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Post Post #846 (ISO) » Fri Mar 07, 2014 4:02 pm

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But yeah I am probably an example of someone who would've been a way better policy dayvig than Death Note, just due to my role. Unlike Reck.

HEHEHE.

pedit - cherrydog is kind of scummy but damn that dog picture is cute.
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Post Post #847 (ISO) » Fri Mar 07, 2014 4:06 pm

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oh yeah, I forgot that aiming for the optimal strategy for town is scummy

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Post Post #848 (ISO) » Fri Mar 07, 2014 4:13 pm

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That is not what I said and you know it. :roll:
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Post Post #849 (ISO) » Fri Mar 07, 2014 4:13 pm

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