Dark Age of the Law Mafia GAME OVER

[Sound of Silence]

That was ffery, though GiF agrees. The timing was quite good if Nacho is going to play this game. And the timing coincided with our upgrading our Sakura read.

[Sakura Hana]

Hi guys, I've been feeling sick all day, i think im about to catch a cold, my overall posting may decrease until i feel better.

There's a thing i've been wondering wrt Bertkerberos, in Mistakes upick i also thought he could be scum due to overall lack of Bert posting, but in the end he was town. Tho i'd also really like for them to post more, specially Nacho.

[beastcharizard]

I have plenty of recent games to go shift through. I suggest FE:Awakening. Great read.

@Anti:

How is PV a good vote? I don't remember a case.

[Cabd]

Hey SSK or Cabd, can we have some prods on Drunken Lies and Candle Jack?

Done

[Cabd]

Backup Mod votecounts: Now with 100% less pagetop

Vote Count 12

Sound of Silence (0):
Bertkerberos (1): Sound of Silence
Misaka Network (1): WrathChild
Doduo (0):
Candle Jack (2): KingdomAces, Endless Possibilities
Wrathchild (4): Misaka Network, Antihero, Drunken Lies, Katsuki
KingdomAces (1): Candle Jack
DrunkenLies (0): Doduo
PeregrineV (0): Antihero
Endless Possibilities (2): Katinara LeBlanc, Bertkerberos
Antihero (0):
Sakura Hana (1): PeregrineV
beastcharizard (0):
Katsuki (1): beastcharizard
Katarina Leblanc (1): Sakura Hana

Deadline for the first lynch is in (expired on 2014-03-12 14:21:00).
With 15 alive it takes, 8 to lynch.

[Antihero]

@Anti:

How is PV a good vote? I don't remember a case.

i'm not going to spoon feed you a case; go to my ISO and look at my last couple posts and look at peregrine's last few posts

peregrine's recent activity has been really weird; if wrathchild really was a null-scum read (like the two posts i linked suggested), why would peregrine feel the need to swoop in, demand a case and slap a vote on one of the wagoners (particularly sakura, who deserved a vote because.... i don't know... for all the howling about "cases", there wasn't a case given for sakura)?
it feels weird and unnatural and like pooh-poohing a wagon for towncred, especially given that his vote landed on sakura, a pretty passive player who wasn't likely to give him much of a fight. if peregrine was town, i would either suspect 1) that he would get on the wrath wagon or 2) scumhunt from the wagon instead of indignantly demanding a "case".

his reaction to me calling him out is also disconcerting. there's clearly a discrepancy in behavior and instead of addressing it, he got really defensive about it for no clear reason and tried to misrepresent what actually happened (...acting like wrathchild was an RVS vote... really?...)

[Antihero]

peregrine's recent activity has been really weird; if wrathchild really was a null-scum read (like the two posts i linked suggested), why would peregrine feel the need to swoop in, demand a case and slap a vote on one of the wagoners (particularly sakura, who deserved a vote because.... i don't know... for all the howling about "cases", there wasn't a case given for sakura)?

actually scratch that, sakura wasn't one of the wagoners, but my other points still stand

[Antihero]

also, if you're going to give me flak about a case, you can't be a one-man wagon on a lurker and saying "wah, wah, they aren't doing anything"

if you wanted a policy lynch, you should have spoken up earlier. we can do a lot better than that at this point.

[beastcharizard]

cases are scummy

I think random posting without cases is scummy.

Is there even a case on Wrathchild? He is at least coherent.

Vote: Sakura

The next post after this one might have helped.

Aren't you doing what you told Anti you thought was scummy?

@Anti:

I have always known PV to be more of a lurker and showing up randomly attempting to do stuff type player. I just shrugged off what they were doing as just that. You do have a point though and I can actually follow it. Their first vote on WC was RVS though and then they voted them a second time right afterwards, for no reason i might add, because they decided they were scummy. Then they changed their read to null/scum instead of just scum.

VOTE: PeregrineV

[Katsuki]

hm

ill be back in a few pages.

[Candle Jack]

Things I don't like about the readslist-

1) The read ons us (I'm seriously going to keep saying this even if we're in lylo together

before I vote you two because I know if I'm in lylo with ffery she's scum

2) The read on DL. It's missing anything from Guyett and is solely focused on ETL (granted ETL's who I'm going to be focusing on). I just don't see where you're getting any yeal townread off of what ETL's done yet and it bugs the shit out of me

3) The read on Katarina. We both just played with Katarina in 295 GIF, and Marquis should be able to read her decently. While I don't disagree persay, I just feel like it's bleh compared to the rest (granted it could be due to lollastreadlaziness) but it just feels like it was tacked on/you had something longer there and backspaced through it all.

4) The read on antihero- I don't really get how enthusiasm=town but whatever. I'm just having issue finding anything really town about him

A) You can't see AH town? I'm pretty sure he's got the Fate/Iso tell (can't effectively fake his aggressive tone as scum attacking town), and while his attack on me is *wrong* I think he sincerely believed it.

B) Explain the DL read - he looks bog-standard town to me, not sure what you're seeing.

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i have read the iso of candle jack and it confirms my read that he is the scum

VOTE: candle jack

too many questions. is a scumtell. want too much much info, contribute too little info. lots of waffling and irrelevant comments too. "sky is blue grass is green" those sort.

ya lynch candle jack this is metal sonic approved

slip

Bullshit. There is no way you can honestly believe this.

A) I don't waffle as any alignment (see: Mafia Invictus, Vortex, Medieval Mafia, Mafia 87, NGE, etc.).
B) Questions are scummy? You cannot be serious. *POINTLESS* questions are scummy, yes - but my questions here have a point (getting a read on players I've had trouble reading, trying to trap scum in a lie, etc.).
C) Irrelevant comments? You mean the comments explaining why scum is scum and trying to figure out unknown players' alignment? Because those aren't irrelevant in the slightest.

On the other hand:

you both have amazing avatars and they are both looking at each other wow

its like some scripted debate that you see on tv

These? THESE are irrelevant comments.

(And man does that second quote look like a scum response to town-on-town.)

Everyone voting me without a case is an idiot. If you have no case on me. Kindly remove your votes. I will be happy to address questions or concerns in exchange. I am at L-3.

There are 4 scum in the game(according to kA ). All of them might possibly be on you. Why are you freaking out?

No point in leaving me so close. Also, do you read my kindness and courtesy as freak out? I said please and it was in an english accent! I totally admitted that I skimmed past the win con part, hence why I let off Kingdom immediately. When my PM says I'm town, I file that in the memory banks and move on. I hardly ever actually read the win cons unless I'm Self-Aligned. For the most part they're always the same.

Yup that's kind of a freak out read to me. No big deal, you're okay

We wait and see if Misaka slips more. She/it's on my watch list now so if anything comes up I'll shut down the system. Meanwhile take a look at candle jack and tell me what you think.

Speaking of waffling... and this reads like scum distancing a buddy and then backing off, to boot.

Yeah no. You're not town.

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katarina is a lovely name

oh i have never played LoL before

katarina sounds so exotic tho

p-edit: omg yes i was ur neighbor

Speaking of pointless comments...

Also, why have I not seen a single post clearly from Nacho from your hydra this game?

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For now im going to

Vote: Katarina

Because awkwardly she's been voting everyone I've been voting.

But that's the point :c

Speaking of pointless comments...

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On a side note, so we are all cool with people pushing chain lynches? I still think FakeGod's (AKA Misaka) post here is incredibly scummy. I can write off people being bad at mafia *cough* Quack *Cough* Beast *Cough*, but not being outright scummy.

>>>GIF is scum. I'm 100% on reading him and I've been looking forward to testing out some theories about him, and I'mreally excited bc he's already pinging the shit out of a lot of the tells I think I found. sheep me plz<<<

100% sure? Willing to bet your life on it?

Would you offer yourself up as the next lynch if GIF flips town?

Speaking of "scummy" instead of "scum"...

Everyone voting me without a case is an idiot. If you have no case on me. Kindly remove your votes. I will be happy to address questions or concerns in exchange. I am at L-3.

There are 4 scum in the game(according to kA ). All of them might possibly be on you. Why are you freaking out?

No point in leaving me so close. Also, do you read my kindness and courtesy as freak out? I said please and it was in an english accent! I totally admitted that I skimmed past the win con part, hence why I let off Kingdom immediately.

When my PM says I'm town, I file that in the memory banks and move on

. I hardly ever actually read the win cons unless I'm Self-Aligned. For the most part they're always the same.

For the record:
I would be content with the following lynches at this point.

1. Misaka
2. Peregrine

3. Beast Char

Uh, no. I've already explained why BC's early "slip" likely came from VI town, you clearly agree with that logic because it's the same logic you're using to defend yourself here... and you still have BC on your top 3 scum list? Not bloody likely.

RE: Candle Jack
Overall I see nothing obviously scummy about him. I'd need to do some meta research on him next. His effort seems townish. His posts seem skillful (not necessarily a town tell), but I don't like a couple things too. He does seem to have blinders on for Kingdom Aces. I'm surprised he doesn't see the issues with Misaka. This is a player I'd keep my eye on but think there are bigger fish to fry at the moment.

This? THIS is waffling. Everything is escape-hatched: "nothing obviously scummy", "not necessarily a town tell", "but I don't like a couple things too", etc. Oh, and nice attempt at deflection to Misaka (who's acting like town pushing a strong scumread).

Also, it's three days to deadline, I can't get an ounce of traction on KA-scum, you're my second strongest scumread, and you already have a wagon.

Unvote, Vote: Wrathchild

Also willing to lynch: KA, EP, BK.

[Endless Possibilities]

Holy shit the above post just bled scum to my ears

Lynch candle jack immediately

Ffery gif duduo Leblanc kingdom aces

If you guys are town get to lynching candle jack RIGHT NOW

[Endless Possibilities]

Ya but one point I agree with was wratchchilds shit response to my question on what he thinks of candle jack

That was 1 totally stupid post which I was about to call him out for. I'm not sure why he delayed that post 'phone posting' when his result was a pile of junk.

But that may not necessarily be scummy. Candle jacks post was objectively scummy

[Endless Possibilities]

Sakura Hana and nacho and Bert

Lynch candle jack with me please please

[Endless Possibilities]

In no way is KA scum by the way

Nice try mr jack

[Endless Possibilities]

Beast if by the slim chance that you are town follow me and lynch candle jack

All you PO guys can trust my scumhunting

Besides pieguy just made my hydra on town for me for free so you guys can also trust me yes

[beastcharizard]

Metal, that gave me a good laugh. Also, you didn't appeal to like 3 players. It isn't nice to exclude them.

[Misaka Network]

trust my scumhunting

I've never met a person on this site who told me to "trust their scumhunting" and could actually scumhunt well.

[Endless Possibilities]

trust my scumhunting

I've never met a person on this site who told me to "trust their scumhunting" and could actually scumhunt well.

sorry don't know you

that was a joke please don't be offended

[Katarina LeBlanc]

Why are you doing this? You never do this when you are town. Your play is actually frustrating me at this point.

Why am I doing what? :3

Being useless. You are doing nothing. You are normally way more proactive then this. Normally I am certain if you are town by this point.

Cite NOC games where you can equate my meta. Not including my first game in the site (Knight Errant). I want you to read through the entirety of my thought process and what makes you think you have a shred of knowledge that you think you know what goes through my head. I will not look town for the sake of you, you have to figure that out yourself.

as i grow stronger on mafiascum hannah grows weaker

or maybe just plain scum

Oh really, what's your win/loss as Town

Beast if by the slim chance that you are town follow me and lynch candle jack

All you PO guys can trust my scumhunting

Besides pieguy just made my hydra on town for me for free so you guys can also trust me yes

Why are you trying to self impose a townblock including yourself. That first post of yours that included a bunch of names was just pretty weird.

VOTE: Endless Possibilities

chainsawdefensinggo

[Drunken Lies]

Got the prod

[beastcharizard]

I will not look town for the sake of you, you have to figure that out yourself.

It is your job to be town not my job to decide you are town when you do jack shit. You are right though, I don't remember any NOC games we have played together since over there I prefer OC because I am better at them.

[Katarina LeBlanc]

I will not look town for the sake of you, you have to figure that out yourself.

It is your job to be town not my job to decide you are town when you do jack shit. You are right though, I don't remember any NOC games we have played together since over there I prefer OC because I am better at them.

Then meta read better
:^)

[Endless Possibilities]

I will not look town for the sake of you, you have to figure that out yourself.

It is your job to be town not my job to decide you are town when you do jack shit. You are right though, I don't remember any NOC games we have played together since over there I prefer OC because I am better at them.

if you are sharp enough hannah is claiming scum with a tell that is only exclusive to us that has played in greater idea(your game)

which is all of us from PO really

[beastcharizard]

@Katarina:

http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=83&t=34836

This game you were town and a lot more useful than you are being now.

@EP:

Can you sign your posts? I know who you are but in the off chance you decide to share all your "knowledge" with your partner I would like to keep the two of you organized in my mind.