Open 551: Hard Boiled - GAME OVER

[Kid A]

Some questions for everyone

How much forum mafia experience do you have, mafia scum or otherwise?
Are you the mafia?
How many games were released on the N64 in North America? Guesses only please if you google you are scum

just a year on ms
yes but dont vote me im a vengeful mafia
i dunno n64 was a little bit shit it was probably like 150

Why was this the only thing with which you engaged?

because none of the other posts had words in them that made me want to respond with more words

[Not_Mafia]

Pictures usually mean you want to be liked.

Then, why was cdb's vote scummy? And still standing, why is dritan scummy?

We're out of RVS so there should be an explanation attached to a vote.

And I've mentioned what I want Dritan to address

Lia should have unvoted after saying that

I'm beginning to think this may be a serendipitous wagon.

then why didnt you unvote ?

Read serrendipitous as duplicitous.

He sheeped on my misunderstanding then admitted he didn't know what he was sheeping

I was reading it as more likely noob town aswell, but let's not give people outs before they can respond to a question

[Not_Mafia]

Just pointing out that post 52 has actually generated content

[shos]

Official Votecount 1.2

Egg (1) - Lia.
Zar(1) - Protector.
Protector (2) - chamber, Kid A.

Not_Mafia (3) - Dritan, Earthquake, Quill.

Dritan (2) - Formerfish, Not_Mafia.
Kid A (1) - Egg.
Lia (2) - ChannelDeliBird, Zar.

Not voting (1) - Edosurist.

With 13 alive, it takes 7 votes to lynch.

Deadline is in (expired on 2014-03-23 06:00:12)

Nobody is due prod(s).

At all times, if you think I have made a mistake, post in bold and/or PM me.

[Protector]

Ah yes. Much has been said. You are all suspects in this twisted game.

Kid A and I are not going to be friends. I do not like him. Very possibly town. Very probably worthless. Very definitely needs to have opinions on mafia games rather than N64 games.

I also probably will not be friends with Not_Mafia. I do not like him either and I do not like his questions. He can be town, perhaps.

Egg seems town. Judgment on his character will be held off until a later date.

The seedy one catches my eye. My gut feeling is that I should desire a chance to stick something sharp through his gut.

Earthquake gives me pause. I know not why. Perhaps scummy. Perhaps poor hydra skills. Perhaps tone. Time holds many dirty secrets.

Unvote: Zar

He is but a tiny fish - a lovely vote for those with small minds and stomachs and large mouths.

Dritan requires an avatar. He also requires posts that say things.

Lia makes sense. And yet....

Vote: CDB

His neck makes me hunger.

[Earthquake]

VOTE: Quill

I want to hear more from you and I feel our vote on Not_Mafia has reached its peak in terms of read gathering.

[Egg]

Weird. Protector, I agree with most of what you have to say, but my reads are pretty much opposite yours. How are you coming up with different conclusions than me when we see everything BUT the conclusions exactly the same? I mean, I get that you can't possibly answer that, but it's weird.

[Egg]

Weird. Protector, I agree with most of what you have to say, but my reads are pretty much opposite yours. How are you coming up with different conclusions than me when we see everything BUT the conclusions exactly the same? I mean, I get that you can't possibly answer that, but it's weird.

[Formerfish]

Little backed up with work and child care ATM. I'll be more limited than vaca til Saturday.

[Quill]

Protector's reaction to getting fake-hammered works for me.

Why?

It wasn't just calm and collected (which scum can fake), but it also revealed her actions had premeditated scumhunting purpose. Scum can fake that too, but it'd be more useful and appropriate for a town player. Also, instinct, although that's led all of us astray in its time I'm sure.

Earthquake, yeah I lean towards that being a town reaction from protector. What about Dritan stands out as town to you?

Preview edit: (Qull) I look forward to your thoughts on the Zar/Protector thing.

Protector seems to have a strong read on Zar after a minimal number of posts. Whether or not she's town, I'm expecting their interaction to tease out threads that the rest of us can dig into. It's not any more than that, so sorry to disappoint.

I'm beginning to think this may be a serendipitous wagon.

Hmm. I actually didn't notice that comment from Lia was coming from the first vote on the wagon. I'm kind of curious why Lia stayed on the wagon at that point.

So... Epiphanies of RVS votes turned serious don't sit well with me, actually. I find its easier for mafia-aligned players to find an excuse to not move their votes. Not really much of a fan of Lia's argument and move-out after Egg called her out.

(And yes, for those interested, I liked Channel's vote on Lia.)

Vote: Lia

I'll admit, I didn't notice this before. I also don't see the "by-play" that Lia says is him wanting to unvote, so that's another strike against her.

Unvote
Vote: Lia

VOTE: Quill

I want to hear more from you and I feel our vote on Not_Mafia has reached its peak in terms of read gathering.

Any actual questions, or do you just want to throw some general suspicion my way just in case?

[Earthquake]

My gut says that you need more pressure to see how that changes you. However, at this stage, gut means nothing. I am also looking for who switches their vote and when. Lastly, I want to see you contribute and have strong opinions rather than wishy washy shit.

[Quill]

Well I certainly think it's too early for "strong" opinions, but I do have a weak opinion about the kind of player who complains about me being "wishy-washy" in a post that opens with two sentences that cancel each other out.

Why are you no longer interested in pursuing Not_Mafia, since you didn't say and you're interested in who switches their vote when?

[Lia]

Lia, fair on your reasons for staying on the wagon. I had that same twinge. But what makes you think I wanted to unvote?

I was following a hunch. When you first posted in the thread, instead of just jumping on the wagon, which would be quite unremarkable, you didn't even mention the wagon when you joined it and made a post which seemed a bit overdone, premeditated even.

I've got a better feel about Protector now.

How so?

A couple of CDB's posts are making me think he's protecting Dritan a bit.

I don't see in what way he's protecting dritan, can you elaborate?

1) Her good posts outweigh the ones I'm not so sure about.
2) CDB has responded to a couple of posts that were directed at Dritan before Dritan got to them.

So... Epiphanies of RVS votes turned serious don't sit well with me, actually. I find its easier for mafia-aligned players to find an excuse to not move their votes. Not really much of a fan of Lia's argument and move-out after Egg called her out.

(And yes, for those interested, I liked Channel's vote on Lia.)

Well, seeing as no epiphany was involved that shouldn't bother you then. The vote would have been moved whether or not Egg or anyone else said anything as there was no longer a reason to leave it there. Do you think there was?

What did you like about CDB's vote on me?

[Egg]

Huh. I know this is weak, but I've let similar things go before when it turned out to mean something. I don't get the same obvtown vibe I had from Quill early in the last game we played together. Just a gut thing. Worth mentioning at least.

Lia, I didn't care that two people had already made that vote. I wasn't doing it to wagon, but I didn't mind that it became one.

So guys, Kid A's ISO look like this:
ISO 0: L-1 vote on Protector with no text other than the vote.
ISO 1: I'm sure he isn't being completely serious, but calls for intent to hammer. Considering the situation, this is kind of a weird spot for that kind of joke. And it doesn't strike me as any kind of reaction Gambit or anything. Just throwing fuel on the fire.
ISO 2: N64 stuff
ISO 3: Basically tells CDB that the only important thing to happen was the N64 question
And.....that's it.
^We should be wagoning this.

[Kid A]

ISO 3: Basically tells CDB that the only important thing to happen was the N64 question

this is a weaselly fucking misquote

i wanted to respond to it =/= it was the only important thing to happen

[Not_Mafia]

Well neither is exactly spectacular. You should contribute now that you're here then. Post some reads.

VOTE: Kid A

for his terrible guess

[Egg]

If something else was more important to you, you would have discussed it.

[Kid A]

Post some reads.

i only have town reads right now so i am not posting any reads

[Kid A]

If something else was more important to you, you would have discussed it.

youre trying to apply the way you play this game to someone who is not you

[Zar]

Well, seeing as no epiphany was involved that shouldn't bother you then. The vote would have been moved whether or not Egg or anyone else said anything as there was no longer a reason to leave it there. Do you think there was?

What did you like about CDB's vote on me?

Possibly because you had

just

stated you thought the wagon was "serendipitous"... if you thought you were getting lucky with the vote where it was, why was there no longer a reason to leave it there?

(This is also the reason why I liked the momentum on CDB's vote on you...)

[Zar]

Kid A

because none of the other posts had words in them that made me want to respond with more words

i wanted to respond to it =/= it was the only important thing to happen

I'm not following Kid A's logic. How exactly do you intend to say these two statements don't contradict each other?

If you thought none of the other posts made warranted a response from you, how is it that you think other important things happened so far? (at least this is what I'm understanding from your latter statement), and why if you think other important things happened, you didn't think these needed a response from you?

[shos]

Chamber has been prodded.

Spoiler: darn

I was late by almost an hour

Mon Mar 10, 2014 12:20 am...
Wed Mar 12, 2014 1:13 am

[Protector]

Something unexpected came up, so a post relevant to the new stuff will have to wait until tomorrow or possibly the day after. Sorry.

[chamber]

Vote quill

They way protector handled her wagon was very poor and forced imo. I was torn between wondering if it was forced for *reasons* or forced because she's scum.

[shos]

Dritan has been prodded.