Mini 1558 - VisCon: Crossroads [Game Over]

[Majiffy]

Hasn't even been 24 hours since the mod announcement, I wouldn't get too excited yet.

[neil1113]

I'm here, haven't even really had a chance to run through the thread yet and read over anything. Just realized it looks like I'm today's lynch. I'm definitely a townie. But I'm trying to figure out, is there any point in me spending my time reading through 10 pages to try and help if I'm just going to be lynched and it all be for naught? If so, I can just self-vote and help you guys get to the next day.

Although I'm pretty sure the Mod will give an extension on the deadline. So if you're voting me for

lack of time

, that seems like a stretching unreasonable place to put your vote, not a compromise and that my friends, is scummy. So should I be lynched before I have a chance to even read through the game, catch those reasons and lynch those scum on my wagon.

[GuyInFreezer]

Do you have an in-thread reason to believe that, or is he not in your role PM?

I gave you one already.

[Majiffy]

Not really, no.

The closest you ever gave for a reason of a town-read is;

24 felt forced.

I agree, tone wise.
But I don't think it was scum-forced.
I just think it was forced cool-guy post because he wanted to be cool.

And that barely scrapes the face of null.

[Desperado]

I'm here, haven't even really had a chance to run through the thread yet and read over anything. Just realized it looks like I'm today's lynch. I'm definitely a townie. But I'm trying to figure out, is there any point in me spending my time reading through 10 pages to try and help if I'm just going to be lynched and it all be for naught? If so, I can just self-vote and help you guys get to the next day.

Although I'm pretty sure the Mod will give an extension on the deadline. So if you're voting me for

lack of time

, that seems like a stretching unreasonable place to put your vote, not a compromise and that my friends, is scummy. So should I be lynched before I have a chance to even read through the game, catch those reasons and lynch those scum on my wagon.

Claiming your actual role would go a long way towards determining the best course of action

[FakeGod]

VoteCount 1.7

notscience [1] - Who
pieguyn [2] - Kalimar, Bait
Neil113 [6] - Majiffy, notscience, Desperado, hiplop, SXTLHGaiden, GuyInFreezer
Bait [1] - pieguyn
Desperado [2] - Neil113, borkjerfkin
hiplop [1] - Brian Skies

Not Voting [0]

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With 13 alive it takes 7 to lynch

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Deadline is March 14, 2014, at 11:00 AM PST.
Countdown to deadline: (expired on 2014-03-14 13:00:00)

[neil1113]

I'm no one important. I'm just a Vanilla Townie.

[Bait]

This is an incredibly scummy wagon.

I'd rather no-lynch over hammering this.

[Desperado]

Bait's right

Unvote
Vote: Bait

[Bait]

Why my vote wasn't already on you I don't know.

Unvote, Vote: Desp

This is the wagon for us today. Look at how Desp changes right after he's forced a claim. VT claims do not reverse supposed "scumreads".

[neil1113]

I'm not sure why a simple VT claim would suddenly make me town either Bait. I could understand if he read my posts and saw the sincerity in my writings, but if his reasoning is only the VT claim, there's something to pressure for sure.

Also, I don't like GuyInFreezer's wagon jumping, and his push on me. It screams opportunistic scum to me. Just curious why nobody has placed any votes on him so far, is there something I've missed? I've only read the past few pages admittedly. If I had to place a vote right now, it would be on him. I'm going to go ahead and try and read through the 10 pages now, and get a clear read list on everyone then hopefully I can have either more confirmation on Guy's alignment, or a better view of where to go.

[Brian Skies]

That's L-1 by the by. No more votes without intent and a claim.

Can you explain to me exactly what it is that you're trying to achieve?

This whole flowcharting thing isn't giving me any good vibes at all. Bork basically summed up my issues with it earlier, but you have people blindly following you despite disagreeing with you. Some don't even have reasoning. You haven't challenged any of the votes on your wagon (and only challenge those off of it) and now the people who have stated disagreement with you are now just sitting on your wagon so you can get the lynch that you want.

What are your reads on the people sheeping you?

Bait's right

Unvote
Vote: Bait

I don't think you're being serious. What're you actually thinking Desp?

[GuyInFreezer]

I'm not sure why a simple VT claim would suddenly make me town either Bait. I could understand if he read my posts and saw the sincerity in my writings, but if his reasoning is only the VT claim, there's something to pressure for sure.

Also, I don't like GuyInFreezer's wagon jumping, and his push on me. It screams opportunistic scum to me. Just curious why nobody has placed any votes on him so far, is there something I've missed? I've only read the past few pages admittedly. If I had to place a vote right now, it would be on him. I'm going to go ahead and try and read through the 10 pages now, and get a clear read list on everyone then hopefully I can have either more confirmation on Guy's alignment, or a better view of where to go.

>pushing

lol

[GuyInFreezer]

Neil, you don't have to worry about me.
I won't love past d2.

[GuyInFreezer]

Live*

[Majiffy]

That's L-1 by the by. No more votes without intent and a claim.

Can you explain to me exactly what it is that you're trying to achieve?

Keeping a claimless quicklynch from happening?

This whole flowcharting thing isn't giving me any good vibes at all. Bork basically summed up my issues with it earlier, but you have people blindly following you despite disagreeing with you. Some don't even have reasoning. You haven't challenged any of the votes on your wagon (and only challenge those off of it) and now the people who have stated disagreement with you are now just sitting on your wagon so you can get the lynch that you want.

What are your reads on the people sheeping you?

Why would I challenge votes on a wagon I'm leading? That's kind of counter-productive. You analyze a wagon after the flip, not before.

I don't have a whole lot of reads yet given the fact that no one is doing shit this game.

[Desperado]

Why my vote wasn't already on you I don't know.

Unvote, Vote: Desp

This is the wagon for us today. Look at how Desp changes right after he's forced a claim. VT claims do not reverse supposed "scumreads".

Actually I changed right after you put up a giant neon sign that read "I KNOW NEILSLOT IS TOWN!!!!!!"

[Desperado]

I don't think you're being serious. What're you actually thinking Desp?

huh???

I think Bait's scum. He comes in at L-1 and says he'd rather fucking nolynch than lynch auseless slot that a) was scummy, b) already flaked once, and c) didn't have a great entrance?

No. There is no legitimate justification for Bait to feel that strongly about town-Konowa/neil--because he doesn't have one, he just knows it to be true.

[Desperado]

Majiffy, I know you saw that too. Vote Bait with me.

[Kalimar]

So I heard that Who-scum is a lurker and a passive guy.
Discuss.

I can now.

UPick. tl;dr is that town had a bunch of Role Cops and Who was able to pick a generically town role (1s vig) as an investigation mask that people wrote off as town. His dayplay was pretty much nonexistent.

He didn't place a serious vote until around day 5 or 6. He hasn't yet placed a serious vote here, which does give me cause for concern.

It's a sample size of one, so take it with whatever grains of salt you wish.

[Majiffy]

Majiffy, I know you saw that too. Vote Bait with me.

I don't think so.

Why are you dismantling the only legitimate wagon with less than 48 hours to deadline for a vanity wagon?

[notscience]

If neil flips scum I know who I'm voting tomorrow

[Desperado]

Majiffy, I know you saw that too. Vote Bait with me.

I don't think so.

Why are you dismantling the only legitimate wagon with less than 48 hours to deadline for a vanity wagon?

Bait's reaction to the L-1 was that scummy

[Majiffy]

Nope.

[Desperado]

If neil flips scum I know who I'm voting tomorrow

You gonna tell the rest of the class?