The Reckoning III (Math is Hard) Holy crap, perfect town win

Fate · Post Post #1575 (ISO) » Sat Mar 15, 2014 3:26 am

In post 1559, Nuwen wrote:I'd kill Tammy so she gets a hint that her attitude is unacceptable.

I don't think scum would shoot Triforce, unless scum also believed triforce was on an opposing scum team. Multiball mentioned by Fate in response to vig + Joat claims is odd, but I can read that he really believes multiball is a possible explanation. I think his brain jumped to multiball because he's scum. Scum always have the first sesitivity to multiball speculation because their own team numbers/power make it obvious.

This corroborates my feelings that ActionDan was turbo scum lynched, because 1 tr would be mislynching him while others bus.

I haven't had a ton of interest in this game because everyone's being rather cruel to each other. I prefer the British Way where we dryly remind of past mistakes but also make tea and chuckle. I don't think I'm being listened to, and I don't think it matters if I use one sentence or thirty to explain my thoughts; people ignore because they don't think divergently

Fate I'm prob going to vote you but here is a courteousy notice of intent

well fucking great then? Like theonly thing that could make this game even more unenjoyable is not being listened to AND being lynched. Like that wagon on you earlier, remember how retarded it is?

Tammy scum and her claim have warped the towns fucking mindset SO MUCH that town that are willing to speak up (with the exception of Ythan whos already claimed) are being seen as "scum" then so be it.

I have other fucking reasons for thinking its multiball but SURE. Mollie has a reason to think so too and WOW IS SHE TOWN OR WHAT?

Fate · Post Post #1576 (ISO) » Sat Mar 15, 2014 3:27 am

In post 1573, ChannelDelibird wrote:FWIW Fate I'm more likely to vote Overlords than Waffles.

can we just fucking DO IT then?

I've already said Action Dan+Reck are on one team so its already MILES ahead the better lynch, but no one is doing LITERALLY ANYTHING

this is the first game I've seen where's there's been fucking 20 pages and NO RESPECTABLE WAGON until now and that one's being shot down because "lol lets not hurt tammy's feelings"

Am I literally in facebook right now? What the fuck has mafia become?

Fate · Post Post #1577 (ISO) » Sat Mar 15, 2014 3:27 am

I'm going to skim mollie's ISO right now just to make sure

Nuwen · Post Post #1578 (ISO) » Sat Mar 15, 2014 3:27 am

here's a gif to brighten your morale, dear reader

*~happy feet*~

In post 1575, Fate wrote:I have other fucking reasons for thinking its multiball

List them reasons

Fate · Post Post #1579 (ISO) » Sat Mar 15, 2014 3:28 am

Its part of my fucking claim Nuwen, happy?

ChannelDelibird · Post Post #1580 (ISO) » Sat Mar 15, 2014 3:28 am

Fate, tell me why you don't approve of the Axxle wagon, because I don't understand people who are townreading him.

Fate · Post Post #1581 (ISO) » Sat Mar 15, 2014 3:31 am

yeah I mean I skimmed them before and I didn't think mollie really said anything out of line this game...

Sure there was the "bitch" line but thats just mollie being comfortable with that language.

I'm pretty sure it was all blown out of proportion and that's more likely to be done by Tammy scum wanting some substance to add to the game than Tammy town just wanting to fight?

A Simple Math Problem · Post Post #1582 (ISO) » Sat Mar 15, 2014 3:36 am

Just in case you weren't aware: this is another votecount.

Vote Count 2.13

Your New Gay Overlords

(0)

Eleven

(0)

Iecerint

(0)

Cheery Dog

(0)

Untrod Tripod

(0)

Gammagooey

(0)

InflatablePie

(0)

Nuwen

(3)

Gammagooey, Cheery Dog, InflatablePie

Ythan

(0)

Axxle

(2) ChannelDelibird, Your New Gay Overlords

Sir Waffles Wafflington

(3)

Axxle, Ythan, Fate

eaglekit

(0)

pirate mollie

(2) eaglekit, Untrod Tripod

ChannelDelibird

(0)

Fate

(0)

Not Voting

(5) Eleven, Iecerint, Nuwen, Sir Waffles Wafflington, pirate mollie

With 15 alive, it takes 8 to lynch.

Deadline: April 3rd @ 3PM Commune Time

V/LA:

mollie

Fate · Post Post #1583 (ISO) » Sat Mar 15, 2014 3:40 am

In post 276, Axxle wrote:
In post 267, ChannelDelibird wrote: I would like for Axxle to explain his vote on me.
Short answer: I wanted to move my vote somewhere useful and wasn't feeling any of the other wagons.

Long answer: Originally I just sheeped fate since that's easy. But looking at the current wagons I feel a lot better about it. Didn't want to vote for someone without a vote already, that includes cheery who only has rvs votes and eaglekit who hasn't posted yet. I don't really want to bother with Eleven/mollie/waffles. Triforce just got here and seem fine. I'm not going to sheep YNGO. The UT votes seem lazy and you happen to be one of them. You have the biggest wagon already.

Triforce wrote:
In post 270, Eleven wrote:
In post 261, Triforce wrote:Iec's claim is probably town regardless of if his name shows up on the hammer assuming he didn't know in the first place.
Why? Think it's more natural to assume it would show up (It'd be super weird if it didn't, if he's scum he'd definitely assume it shows up as SECRET HAMMERER seems kind of retarded as a scum role).
If he claimed without knowing, then it's pretty unlikely that he's scum. As scum people generally want to iron out the details of their role/claim before they claim. The actual answer is irrelevant because of how loose the claim itself was.
He only *said* he didn't know, that doesn't mean he didn't know.

In post 725, Axxle wrote:I believe in you, Fate.

VOTE: Your New Gay Overlords

In post 735, Axxle wrote:Did you just forcelynch me?

In post 736, Axxle wrote:xRECKONERx + Grimmjow (Your New Gay Overlords) - scummiest in the game right now, I don't believe their claim for a second and as people have pointed out their reads seem really wishywashy/fake/whatever
Faraday+KittyMo (Eleven) - seem fine
Iecerint - town I guess, his role would be way too much lynch bait to balance properly as scum
Cheery Dog - i'd still vote this
Untrod Tripod - town
Gammagooey - town
InflatablePie - town
Nuwen - weak town
Ythan - towniest
ActionDan - null
Mina + Tammy (Sir Waffles Wafflington) - town
Desperado + Malakittens (eaglekit) - town
pirate mollie - slight scum
Porochaz - slight scum
ChannelDelibird - town
Singer/Glork/Quadz (Triforce) - town
Fate - town although possible reck partner

I'll get into more detail if I can beat the mod.

his Waffles vote especially is prettu town.

Its a combination of tone, reaction to the dayvig thing, and just train of thought really.

CDB I honestly think your townread on Tammy is warping the entire game. Like, Axxle votes Waffles and you want to lynch him, I vote her and you go "WALP fate town read is waning!"

I get it, I get your mindset, I can hear your voice "they can't possibly be town! Waffles claim and play is obviously town!" But you're just wrong and its affecting all of your reads as a result. At least scumhunt players based on their entire play rather than just their read on Waffles

ChannelDelibird · Post Post #1584 (ISO) » Sat Mar 15, 2014 3:43 am

I've wanted Axxle dead long before the Waffles vote.

I don't really see what you see in that other stuff. The most I can concede, really, is that I have a lot of townreads elsewhere which makes me want to POE him a bit.

Fate · Post Post #1585 (ISO) » Sat Mar 15, 2014 3:43 am

yea I suppose you ahve so I mean mostly in relation to your read on me

Fate · Post Post #1586 (ISO) » Sat Mar 15, 2014 3:47 am

In post 1584, ChannelDelibird wrote:I've wanted Axxle dead long before the Waffles vote.

I don't really see what you see in that other stuff. The most I can concede, really, is that I have a lot of townreads elsewhere which makes me want to POE him a bit.

its almost like you are exactly where I was at when I made my reads list..

"too many town reads"

Therefore your waffles read IS warping your view of the game (thinking they are town, and by proxy others are town, causes you to PoE to the wrong people). Its almost like I was exactly right? So why can't I be exactly right about Waffles play? I get it, claiming a kill on the survivor is play and all but what CHOICE did they have? Going into night FARADAY WAS STARTING TO SCUMLEAN ON THEM and it was general consensus that they were being scummy as fuck

so they make a claim and it MAGICALLY changes everyone's mind because its so good.

Its occamz fuckin razor... Why aren't they just scum that came up with a claim (the most BELIEVABLE at the time, JoAT when a scum joat has flipped? Killing the survivor cause yay town hero?) and then started being read as town by most people?

It makes sense, ESPECIALLY if its 2-2-1-Town setup and hteres only two scum a team, they'd go to these lengths

ChannelDelibird · Post Post #1587 (ISO) » Sat Mar 15, 2014 4:01 am

I don't believe that "I have too many townreads ergo Waffles is the main one that's wrong" makes sense. My townreads aren't all built around Waffles and their claim. They've been there for a long time. I'm more likely to go and look at my weaker townreads for evaluation (hi).

Fate · Post Post #1588 (ISO) » Sat Mar 15, 2014 4:08 am

I know you don't thats my entire point....

"This is where you're wrong CDB"
"Fate I don't believe I'm wrong"

is this british humor or are we just building extra pages of buffer between us and cancer?

Untrod Tripod · Post Post #1589 (ISO) » Sat Mar 15, 2014 4:09 am

still totally down for the gay aliens lynch

still would lynch both waffles and mollie

wake me when the game starts

zzzzzzz

Fate · Post Post #1590 (ISO) » Sat Mar 15, 2014 4:10 am

you were voting Axxle when this day started NOT gaylords with me and you ALSO think I'm scum so go sit in your paranoid useless corner UT sure

Eleven · Post Post #1591 (ISO) » Sat Mar 15, 2014 4:11 am

I think waffles + ythan's role make sense if town have a miller, hammerer etc they need some strong positive utility to overcome that.

I don't really understand the scumreads on fate? I think he's gone off the deepend and part of me thinks it'd be funny to scumread him to troll hi, but what's he achieving here as scum by pushing waffles instead of reck? Losing credibility? Making himself look like a raving lunatic? I just don't really see it, he seems super INTO this game and it looks like he just uh, wants to be right/listened to after a run of scum games which he hasn't enoyed.

But waffles are TOWN, the claim is just the icing on the cake really, tammy's responses to me have all looked super town and mina's lazy play makes sense if they're sitting on a PR + the trolling me at the start of the day to piss me off only really makes sense as town.

ChannelDelibird · Post Post #1592 (ISO) » Sat Mar 15, 2014 4:14 am

Yeah I'm probably wrong to doubt Fate. I'm just annoyed because the Waffles votes are so bad.

Re: 1588, my mistake, thought you were trying to convince me otherwise rather than start a "you're wrong, no you're wrong" thing.

Eleven, maybe you can make me feel better about Axxle. I'm definitely not voting Waffles or mollie today and Nuwen seems like a bit of a random lynch. You've townread Axxle for a while, why should I? And, if so, where should I be voting instead?

Eleven · Post Post #1593 (ISO) » Sat Mar 15, 2014 4:15 am

I just don't think they can fake that level of vitriol as scum OR set up a shot like that unless they're literally fucking terrified i'm going to get them lynched at the start of the day and need a confirmable role, but I still don't think they'd ACTUALLY shoot trifroce as scum as it's such a bad kill for scum.

Fate · Post Post #1594 (ISO) » Sat Mar 15, 2014 4:16 am

IF IT TAKES SOME FUCKING RAVING TO GET YOU ALL TO SEE JUST HOW GOOD A FUCKING RECK WAGON IS THEN THATS WHAT ILL BE

ARE WE FUCKING READY YET TEAM

UNVOTE:
VOTE: YOUR NEW GAY OVERLORDS

Eleven · Post Post #1595 (ISO) » Sat Mar 15, 2014 4:17 am

In post 1592, ChannelDelibird wrote:Eleven, maybe you can make me feel better about Axxle. I'm definitely not voting Waffles or mollie today and Nuwen seems like a bit of a random lynch. You've townread Axxle for a while, why should I? And, if so, where should I be voting instead?

I've no idea who to vote. Like, I think reck is scum but people are all like YEP HIS CLAIM IS SHIT BUT LOOK AT HIS TONE and i'm like "well ok".

Uh, I just think axxle looks like lazy town who doesn't give a fuck and would be putting up some semblance of...pro townieness fakeness as scum, I guess? He started the game pretty well + there was that vote on overlords where he sheeped fate that looked like "oh, this guy is town and doesn't give a fuck". I think his vote on waffles is lazy but.

Uh, I don't now, it's a gut town read I guess is what it comes down to. I also buy his self meta w/r/t actiondan?

Fate · Post Post #1596 (ISO) » Sat Mar 15, 2014 4:18 am

In post 1593, Eleven wrote:I just don't think they can fake that level of vitriol as scum OR set up a shot like that unless they're literally fucking terrified i'm going to get them lynched at the start of the day and need a confirmable role, but I still don't think they'd ACTUALLY shoot trifroce as scum as it's such a bad kill for scum.

well that's where you don't realize theres probably only 2 scum per team and they are fucking terrified

but FINE LETS BE REASONABLE AND WAIT UNTIL TOMORROW WHEN THE CLAIMED HIDERS STILL ALIVE WHEEE

I was silly to have high hopes in lynching a confirmable role

my god I was scum for 6 months and not once did I realize that "just because I dont give a shit about confirmable roles doesnt mean the rest of the pussies on this site don't. Why don't I just claim a confirmable pr every fucking game?"

Fate · Post Post #1597 (ISO) » Sat Mar 15, 2014 4:19 am

Faraday if you don't fucking vote Gay overlords TWO DAYS IN A ROW WHEN YOUVE KNOWN HIS CLAIM WAS SHIT THIS WHILE TIME I AM GOING TO FUCKING EXPLODE

Fate · Post Post #1598 (ISO) » Sat Mar 15, 2014 4:19 am

Faraday if you don't fucking vote Gay overlords TWO DAYS IN A ROW WHEN YOUVE KNOWN HIS CLAIM WAS SHIT THIS WHILE TIME I AM GOING TO FUCKING EXPLODE

Fate · Post Post #1599 (ISO) » Sat Mar 15, 2014 4:20 am

In post 1141, Eleven wrote:LOL HEY BELOVED PRINCESS SUP NICE
FAKECLAIM YOU GOT THERE

In post 1141, Eleven wrote:LOL HEY BELOVED PRINCESS SUP NICE FAKECLAIM YOU GOT THERE