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Post Post #5475 (ISO) » Sat Mar 15, 2014 9:03 am

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In post 5472, MafiaSSK wrote:
In post 5467, bubbajack8 wrote:Rolecop Jaqen? You're kidding me right now right?
No idea. I'm just posting what previous people in my role have done.
I understand that wasn't you. I don't see where your slot said anything about it though either. Maybe it was Dis.

How about muffin or AD lynch today?
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Post Post #5476 (ISO) » Sat Mar 15, 2014 10:22 am

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Why AD
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Post Post #5477 (ISO) » Sat Mar 15, 2014 10:24 am

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Wait.


It could be possible he's the secondary mafia kill and he bussed CoK. A secondary kill is more valuable than the Ninja flip.
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Post Post #5478 (ISO) » Sat Mar 15, 2014 10:26 am

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In post 5477, Katarina LeBlanc wrote:secondary mafia kill
please

please

please.

Do not board the crazy train. Please tell me you understand why mafia having a 2nd kill per night would be OP and thus impossible
I'll give you a moment to let that sink in
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Post Post #5479 (ISO) » Sat Mar 15, 2014 10:35 am

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because him and muffin are scum. Go read my big post linking them.

As for 2nd kill idea... What?
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Post Post #5480 (ISO) » Sat Mar 15, 2014 12:49 pm

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prohawk wrote:How is 5467 an example of Bubba not actually reading anything?
what exactly do you think he's saying in 5467? coz it looks to me like he is expressing confusion about something that doesn't warrant any confusion which makes me think he thought mafiassk was claiming to have rolecopped jaqen
prohawk wrote:Bubba's posts have felt like town emotion to me, and I can relate with his thoughts on the game
what are your thoughts on the game and/or how do they relate to bubba's? what's the "town emotion" you're referring to? what did you think of his reaction to the SK thing jaqen did yesterday? what do you think of the fact he doesn't give a shit about finding scum anymore and is just peddling the AD+muffin stuff now regardless of how little sense he makes? or is that what you agree with?

also what's cabd doing?
bubba wrote:5460 I apologized I missed something. And like I told Sakura (so I guess this means you're not reading either?)
i know you apologised when sakura pointed out you weren't reading. that doesn't change what it is.

i also noticed you haven't said anything about saki admitting i'm right about his play in xenogears, when that was one of the main reasons you were yelling about me being scum misrepping stuff. go figure.
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Post Post #5481 (ISO) » Sat Mar 15, 2014 12:52 pm

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bubba wrote:Go read my big post linking them
is that the big post where you say i'm townreading him and he's townreading me so we're scum together?
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Post Post #5482 (ISO) » Sat Mar 15, 2014 12:54 pm

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In post 5480, zMuffinMan wrote:also what's cabd doing?
Shaking my fists at those damn girl scouts and their fattening cookies, mostly. (Also eating way too many cookies, but that's totally justifyable)

I'm pretty much just in a holding pattern. None of the posts are really helping advance the game state here. Lynch saki, or lynch me, whatever I guess?

Oh yeah guess I should vote him huh.

UNVOTE:
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(Muffin this makes you part of the harem, for the record)
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Post Post #5483 (ISO) » Sat Mar 15, 2014 12:57 pm

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not really, i'm not a girl like sakura, kat and nacho
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Post Post #5484 (ISO) » Sat Mar 15, 2014 3:38 pm

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In post 5480, zMuffinMan wrote: i also noticed you haven't said anything about saki admitting i'm right about his play in xenogears, when that was one of the main reasons you were yelling about me being scum misrepping stuff. go figure.
1. Scumreading you before the misrep
2. Dont believe i said it made you scum.
3. I believe i said it added to your scumness.

As for the post: its the one where i explain the ninja link and how your play all relied on the D1 lynch. It has nothing to do with you being buddy buddy
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Post Post #5485 (ISO) » Sat Mar 15, 2014 4:23 pm

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In post 769, YuniChikako wrote:
In post 712, Kise wrote:
REM:

"EVeryone answer these irrelevant questions! Tsu tell everyone I'm town! Okay again, more questions! Please link to your proudest scum games. Huh? No I'm not gonna scumhunt even though it's been 16 pages, peace out."
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Start on page 28 or 29.
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In post 826, zMuffinMan wrote:also, tsukasa could be scum. i briefly skimmed through that giant wall a few pages back and didn't like anything i saw
What, exactly, did you not like?
this was Saki's slot. this defense of Remembrance kind of came out of nowhere and there's a similar looking defense towards Sakura-slot. however, idk if this means anything considering yuni only had 6 posts in the entire game
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Post Post #5486 (ISO) » Sat Mar 15, 2014 4:28 pm

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also muffin and dan are bad lynches

I was looking through GCBC's ISO and there's a few thing I noticed. I had this typed up before but it somehow disappeared

1. constantly pushing easy targets
2. weird defenses of flipped scum (what Nacho said a while back)
3. he was pushing a 16-4-1 in a setup spec post earlier despite the fact if he's town bulletproof there's almost certainly 5 scum. and I think if he was town here, he'd realize that

I kind of wanna man up and lynch GCBC bc if he's town that requires one of the claimed PRs to be scum and I really have no idea which one it is. zmuffin seems town leaving either Kise slot or Nacho. will look into that

@zmuffin and Nacho
why don't you wanna lynch GCBC?
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Post Post #5487 (ISO) » Sat Mar 15, 2014 4:29 pm

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In post 5486, pieguyn wrote:5 scum
*5 mafia
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Post Post #5488 (ISO) » Sat Mar 15, 2014 4:31 pm

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btw, I hate the idea of a saki lynch right now. it feels like I'm walking into a trap

vote: GCBC
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Post Post #5489 (ISO) » Sat Mar 15, 2014 6:07 pm

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In post 5449, zMuffinMan wrote:
kat wrote:the only people who I'd want to suspect of having SK-ish claim intention is GCBC, Bubba, and the VTs
i am pretty sure GCBC cannot be SK due to varsoon and kagami N1. he couldn't have performed either kill. so yes, the SK is likely bubba or one of the VTs (i think bubba obviously)
Wasnt Varsoon roleblocked by Kagami though.

Varsoon redirected Jaqen to GCBC and vice versa, how does that make him not SK or not mafia.
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Post Post #5490 (ISO) » Sat Mar 15, 2014 6:53 pm

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the way I'm seeing this if GCBC is town then one of the claimed PRs is mafia bc there has to be 5 scum

I could maaaaaaybe see Kise-slot or Nacho, but I really don't think so

GCBC is a lynch that
1. gives us a metric fuckton of information about the setup and which claims are real vs. fake,
2. has a decent chance at flipping scum,
3. and is someone who would have had to be PL'ed anyway.

I'll let bubba live if he shoots scum tonight (and yes we all know you're SK)
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Post Post #5491 (ISO) » Sat Mar 15, 2014 6:56 pm

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In post 5489, Katarina LeBlanc wrote:
In post 5449, zMuffinMan wrote:
kat wrote:the only people who I'd want to suspect of having SK-ish claim intention is GCBC, Bubba, and the VTs
i am pretty sure GCBC cannot be SK due to varsoon and kagami N1. he couldn't have performed either kill. so yes, the SK is likely bubba or one of the VTs (i think bubba obviously)
Wasnt Varsoon roleblocked by Kagami though.

Varsoon redirected Jaqen to GCBC and vice versa, how does that make him not SK or not mafia.
Varsoon told us he'd receive a PM if his shot failed and he didn't receive such a PM. so I'm assuming it worked and there's some weird fuckery with the setup

WAITWAITWAIT
what if there's a scum roleblocker and he blocked Varsoon?

it all fits. his shot got used but the action didn't do shit

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Post Post #5492 (ISO) » Sat Mar 15, 2014 6:59 pm

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and I'm really surprised no one brought this up on D4 (I'M LOOKING AT YOU CABD)

for the record, I think the scumteam is GCBC, Sakura, Saki w/ bubba SK. I'm starting to think it really is that easy
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Post Post #5493 (ISO) » Sat Mar 15, 2014 7:06 pm

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in that case, I'd think GCBC isn't actually bulletproof at all and fakeclaimed it

also, I could potentially see a 1-shot bomb SK (lol?). GIF had a game with a 1-shot commute SK. I could mb see it as some form of activatable bulletproof that kills its killer to dodge kills. if that's the case, guaranteed 5 mafia
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Post Post #5494 (ISO) » Sat Mar 15, 2014 7:10 pm

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No one brought it up because Varsoon explained that being roleblocked = shot failed and he would get a PM, the whole discussion Day 4 was because a rolestopper would roleblock Varsoon.
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Post Post #5495 (ISO) » Sat Mar 15, 2014 7:12 pm

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especially with a rolecop in the game. it'd be lame if a rolecop could completely shut down the SK and/or whatever fakeclaim they were given
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Post Post #5496 (ISO) » Sat Mar 15, 2014 7:14 pm

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hey Sakura

I thought you said GCBC's ATF was a scumtell when he first did it. when did you change your mind and why?

and what do you think of my argument that GCBC town bulletproof = 5 mafia?
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Post Post #5497 (ISO) » Sat Mar 15, 2014 7:17 pm

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Here's where Varsoon explained how that whole thing worked.
In post 4882, Varsoon wrote:So, basically, in any circumstance where I'm blocked, then the redirect fails.
If my targets are rolestopped, I redirect but then the redirected actions fail.
If my redirect fails, I would receive a PM letting me know that it did.
If my redirect fails, it does not use up the one shot of it.

I did not receive a PM saying that my redirect failed.
So it did not fail.
I can attempt to do another tonight in spite of that,
but I'm fairly certain that my shot went through and got used up on N1.
And i dont recall saying it was a scumtell? It reminded me of Wisdom's AtF tho.
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Post Post #5498 (ISO) » Sat Mar 15, 2014 7:23 pm

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dodging my question ok

who do you think the scumteam is? and plz don't be naive and only list off 4 people. there are almost certainly 5 mafia, so for the sake of this question assume a 5 man scumteam
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Post Post #5499 (ISO) » Sat Mar 15, 2014 7:24 pm

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Then why arent we lynching bubba. You separate the town block where mafia + SK can pick apart town and safetly make it to late game. This scumteam plan seems a lot easier without the SK, who I just think shouldn't be ignored.
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