Marvel Avengers Alliance - Game over

[penguin_alien]

Then please explain your point to smargaret to me, because I don't get it.

[Antihero]

my "reasoning" isn't terrible because i'm not "reasoning" anything

[jasonT1981]

CrashTextDummie replaces Yiley. Thank you.

[CrashTextDummie]

That's me!

Who am I supposed to vote?

[Bulbazak]

Why are people voting Broseidon again?

Because he joined the Zek wagon when it was obvious he was going down, and tried to make sure to shut down discussion by asking everyone to quicklynch him. He then voted Cxin on d2 when that wagon started gaining momentum, and then lurked out the rest of the day. Also because I've played with town Bro, and this is not it.

holy shit, what is this, strawman hour?

It's a valid question. Answer it.

[jasonT1981]

Day 3 Vote Count 2

smargaret 2 - T S O,PeregrineV,
Broseiden 2 - AntiHero,Bulbazak,
PeregrineV 2 - Thor665,smargaret
AntiHero 1 - BROseidon,

Not Voting

CrashTextDummie
penguin_alien

with 9 alive it takes 5 to lynch

(expired on 2014-04-02 16:40:08)

till Day 3 Deadline

[T S O]

TSO - Gut is a horrible reason to vote someone on Day 3. Horrible..

Gut isn't the case. You know this.

[BROseidon]

Because he joined the Zek wagon when it was obvious he was going down, and tried to make sure to shut down discussion by asking everyone to quicklynch him. He then voted Cxin on d2 when that wagon started gaining momentum, and then lurked out the rest of the day. Also because I've played with town Bro, and this is not it.

Weren't you in Calvin and Hobbes mafia, or am I making that up?

[BROseidon]

Because u jus joke reply, 5o Y botha?

No, my reply was serious.

I asserted an Anti-scum position based on the fact that you hadn't gotten NK'd yet, which, given my town read of you, would indicate scum shooting for pressure over anything else. You proceed to interpret that as me calling you scum, and link to your wiki accordingly.

Why is that?

Also, fuck you guys for making me leave derp-style :/

[BROseidon]

*partially based on the fact.

Since someone's gonna narrative manip that otherwise.

[T S O]

That's me!

Who am I supposed to vote?

Smargaret!

[Bulbazak]

Weren't you in Calvin and Hobbes mafia, or am I making that up?

You're making that up.

[Thor665]

I am force replacing Yiley. His activity is the main factor in this. This would have been his 3rd prod. Though I operate a 4 in total or 3 in one day rule, there is no evidence Yiley has interest in this game.

Thank gawd.

That's me!

Who am I supposed to vote?

One of the leading wagons.

[Thor665]

@Smarg - so is OMGUS a thing here, or did Pere do something between your postings that pushed him over the scum edge?

[CrashTextDummie]

It's a beautiful day and I'm working in the garden. I'll get to this game in the evening.

[BROseidon]

Weren't you in Calvin and Hobbes mafia, or am I making that up?

You're making that up.

You should read that, then.

Or my time in the Hydra open before I had to replace out.

Your "model" of my town game is shit

[BROseidon]

Thor you still are ignoring me.

[Thor665]

What the heck do you think I'm ignoring? You haven't asked me a question and nothing you're doing is particularly shocking or interesting to me. What are you hoping for feedback on?

[Thor665]

Because u jus joke reply, 5o Y botha?

No, my reply was serious.

I asserted an Anti-scum position based on the fact that you hadn't gotten NK'd yet, which, given my town read of you, would indicate scum shooting for pressure over anything else. You proceed to interpret that as me calling you scum, and link to your wiki accordingly.

Why is that?

Also, Smurf you guys for making me leave derp-style :/

Actually, I guess I did miss this.

I actually don't even understand what you're saying about what you did, so allow me to say what I did see.

I saw the usual derpa-derp of 'Thor alive = scum'
I made a joke and mocked it to head off the conversation at the pass.
You then acted like...I should do something else.
I don't think I should have.

Reading your commentary here...you're saying you brought it up as an example of me...being town? And then didn;t like that I poked you over it?
I don't get it.

[Thor665]

Going back to look at the original comment - i feel my reply was in line and appropriate. It's not like your Antihero vote makes much sense in a 'scum are leaving Thor alive' thing, and the only other potential stance is maybe you want to argue that Pere equates to town. But...meh.

You just tossed out the thought and did nothing with it, then kind of got miffed that I interpreted it one way as opposed to another (less likely) way even though there was no real functional hint in what you said to clue anyone in to your actual thoughts.
You then clarified to an odd position and got additional miffiness because I didn't engage you...over you being serious that I'm a town read of yours...?

Seriously, what the heck are you looking for here?

[BROseidon]

I'm trying to get into your head a bit b/c even though I have you as a townread, I'm going to check that read periodically to make sure I'm not getting outplayed.

I saw the usual derpa-derp of 'Thor alive = scum'

This is the part that I'm struggling with, because my original post was:

My main issue with the Yates kill (and also to a degree with the Porkens kill) is why Thor hasn't been shot yet.

Which was in response to:

You realize I'm voting Anti because of the Yates kill, right?

Yates is a huge wtf kill.

right, because a universal town read is so far out in left field...

you did it

VOTE: Broseiden

What I'm not getting is how you got me scumreading you from my post. I opened the day with a vote on Anti, which I quickly ascribed to the Yates kill. That sequence of positions should have made it obvious that I was working with Yates's reads under the assumption that he was shot because of his reads. The comment about you being alive then should have clearly fit into that narrative, with the implied position that I feel like you would have been a stronger "remove an obvtown slot." None of that should have been particularly ambiguous.

Except for the part where you then misunderstood my position. While a lot of this wasn't explicitly stated, the logical chain of conclusions wasn't exactly hidden, either.

I'm not getting how that misunderstanding happened, and now I'm trying to figure out whether it's a null-derp, town-derp, or scum-derp.

[CrashTextDummie]

This game is quite a drag. Read up to the D1 lynch. Most likely to be scum on the wagon is Smudger, whose vote seemed to carry over from the RVS. He did little to push the wagon along and I got the distinct feeling he was trying to tie people to Zekrom (zakk, TSO). Thor and Scorpion are vague paranoia reads at this point. The former I feel played softball with Zekrom, essentially telling him what he needed to do to get Thor to relent. The latter zoomed in on Zekrom-scum perhaps a little too early and too easily. BROseidon doesn't really bother me.

Off the wagon, smargaret is scummiest by a fair margin. Scummy defense of Zekrom, scummy push on Cxin, scummy pretty much everything. Bulbazak is about as strong a town-read as I'm comfortable giving him and TSO I thought handled Zekrom in a manner that I'd find unusual for scum. Zakk is certainly a special little snowflake and I can't wait for him to turn into PeregrineV.

Moving on to D2.

[CrashTextDummie]

Bit of weirdness from Bulba to start D2:

First, NKs are a mess of WIFOM, especially when you don't have enough to establish a pattern. Second, if my purpose as scum was to kill those who suspect me, explain why I would kill Porkens, who I felt I could lynch, over Thor, who was seen as univeral town and would never get lynched?

Again, the question is: Why would I kill someone who I felt i could get lynched, instead of just killing the person who would never get lynched?

Do you usually assess who's easy and hard to lynch when you're town?

If this has been brought up and answered further down the line, feel free to ignore me.

[CrashTextDummie]

All caught up. Smargaret is an overwhelming scum read. I actively hated Scorpions thrust for the entirety of D2 that he was in and penguin hasn't instilled much confidence in the slot. Smudger I thought looked decent in his D2 posts, but Antihero was somewhat sketch around the Cxin wagon.

Thor makes me sad. All his pushes from D2 forward have been offensively bad and I'd hate for him to sully his reputation further if he was town in this game. Which I currently think he might be. Could I interest you in talking some sense, Thor? Pull you out of the darkness and onto the side of goodness and justice?

PV's entry into the game was awesome and his entire play so far is without blemish. Very town.

I urgently need updated Smargaret reads from Bulba and penguin.

vote: smargaret

I'll get to case making and arguments after a round of sleep.

[Thor665]

Except for the part where you then misunderstood my position. While a lot of this wasn't explicitly stated, the logical chain of conclusions wasn't exactly hidden, either.

That presumes I cared enough about you to follow that line of thought and have it in my head later when I read the one off comment and/or decided to go back and see if I could put the comment in context.

I'm not getting how that misunderstanding happened, and now I'm trying to figure out whether it's a null-derp, town-derp, or scum-derp.

I'm not getting why you think it would be any more or less likely to be any given one as opposed to "wasn't following BRO enough to put a non-contextual comment back into context via either recalling it off the top of his head or research" nor do I see why you would expect it to be and how this conversation could possibly lead to you managing to do so. Clarify?

Could I interest you in talking some sense, Thor? Pull you out of the darkness and onto the side of goodness and justice?

You mean by not suspecting a slot you indicated was not a good slot?
I dunno, maybe, why don't you ask me something or present this Smargaret case and ask for feedback?