Mini 1560 - Reck's Walk of Shame (GAME OVER)

[Natirasha]

I don't wanna lynch CDB because he's buddying me.

[Fate]

bella has two pages to do something substantive or she is the lynch for the day

She is also under my protection. Now get along

[Fate]

Unvote:
Vote: Channel

Can't say CDB remember

[Aegor]

yeah, undo, your post is so very constructive and you totally didn't do again that thing where you cut out of the discussion the part where I call you out on your bullshit.

undo wagon > doc wagon > cdb wagon

come on guys

So....This is basically just OMGUS followed by sheeping.

Freak has been added to my lynch pool.

[Bella]

bella has two pages to do something substantive or she is the lynch for the day

Interesting approach to pushing a lynch, noting the use of a time frame beyond my control ("pages" can be posted fairly quickly, say when a person is asleep) in order to curtail discussion. Unsure if stupid or malicious as yet.

[Bella]

(Initial thought would be stupid because AnimeAvatar.jpg, but I'm reserving judgment.)

[Fate]

Izzy dont' be scum =/

[~Jordan`]

bella has two pages to do something substantive or she is the lynch for the day

Interesting approach to pushing a lynch, noting the use of a time frame beyond my control ("pages" can be posted fairly quickly, say when a person is asleep) in order to curtail discussion. Unsure if stupid or malicious as yet.

please don't let this be your best post during these two pages sleepy head

[Natirasha]

You're free to ignore Jordan, Bella.

[Bella]

I am getting the distinct impression that he is worth ignoring.

Fun fact: People who use spoiler tags in Mafia games can go to Hell.

[Natirasha]

Spoiler: Consternation

Me too.

[~Jordan`]

I am getting the distinct impression that he is worth ignoring.

Fun fact: People who use spoiler tags in Mafia games can go to Hell.

Spoiler:

hell doesn't exist you silly

[Bella]

Oh,

Unvote

, I forgot about that.

Anyway, to address the alleged cases made against my predecessor:

OK this is why Doc is scum the simple version;

I thought Jordan was kidding at first, or maybe newTown, but votehopping like that

Votehopping argument made on page 2, it was terrible then but eh one could say it was made to try and progress things which is OK if that were the intention, however...

early nervous votehopping

It is a mainstay.

Votehopping isn't a tell to begin with but accusing someone of it in RVS is actually just laughable and his posts just read completely manufactured cramming as many buzzwords into them as possible its just nonsense. He is clearly just making up content and attempting to make it sound good (the votehopping argument shows buzzword -> terrible actual argument).

Argument flawed: Assume existence of "RVS" (it doesn't, no votes are truly random), assumes existence of "tells" and that vote-hopping isn't one of them ("tells" are never absolute, and vote hopping is absolutely a behaviour associated with certain scum strategies). Essentially boils down to a dislike of jargon, which I kinda agree with but at least it's a step up from pure concentrated stupid.

Grrrr mad Doc. Building cases out of thin air is kinda what happens at the start of the game, but I would like to know exactly what you're referring to.
I like how it's nervous votehopping though I fail to see how nervous applies to the situation. Votehopping is probably better than not since it helps keep the game moving. So why is it scummy?
Also what really bad reactions? And why they're bad.

Doc Holliday's reasoning feels fake and his attempt to discredit the people voting him looks scummy.
VOTE: Doc

There were other things I noticed, but I don't have time to get to them right now. Hopefully later.

This entire case is a) emotional response to a failure to understand the case Doc made and b) stuff not included but he'll totally get to them "later". Uh huh, right.

Aegor's case against Doc is basically the same as all his posts in this game: Attacks on people who a) call him scum or b) agree with people who call him scum.

Jordan is an idiot. I know Fate likes him because he's expressed an intention to sheep him, but come on.

Now that's over, can we get back to actually attempting to find scum instead of whatever the hell the wagon on Doc was?

Vote: NicCage

Wins over Aegor because Fate said so. He's basically done nothing and already engaged lurk-mode with promises of future content. I would be happy voting Aegor because his focus is not on finding scum, but attacking people who express suspicion of him and staying alive.

[~Jordan`]

lol you think votehopping is a scumtell

[~Jordan`]

why did you choose slandaar's formulation of the doc case when he is barely even signed up for this game

[Titus]

I'm not liking Aegor and Slandaar. They're basically pushing all the popular wagons but doing jack shit in terms of scumhunting.

Freak is scumhunting now. Vote is not going there.

Gut says that experienced town are trying to turn the newbs against each other and sail.

I'll look into this more this weekend when my project wraps up.

[Aegor]

Gut says that experienced

town

are trying to turn the newbs against each other and sail.

What?


Bella, thoughts on CBD?


VOTE: NicCage

[~Jordan`]

vote: Bella

No, this this getting ridiculous. And I

live

for the ridicule.
The idea that I am an idiot is a myth driven by the fact that no one can be silly for long without people thinking none of it's on purpose.
Check out the game I've played in since i returned to the site. Ask Aegor or Titus, who were both in it. I'm just as competent as any of your or more — and clearly much less of an asshole about it.
I can play the fun-hating anal-retentive schtick, too, and I'll show you how it's done...today, actually.

Pedit: damn it, Aegor

Titus, Aegor. I don't dig the idea of being wrongfully dismissed as an idiot. Can I use you as references?

[~Jordan`]

Also:

Titus, Aegor's play today compared to Open 560. Similar, no?

[Titus]

@Aegor, that's a typo. I put in a 12 hour day at work for the past 2-3 days. Obviously, town doesn't win by putting itself against each other. I meant experienced scum was turning the newb town against each other and sailing. It all ran together.

[Aegor]

Actually VOTE: Bella

Re: Jordan. He orchestrated our scum victory in a C9++ game by means of a cop fakeclaim in lylo.

[~Jordan`]

1. I challenge anyone ITT to show where in Natirasha's iso anything is said that is substantially helpful.
Natirasha summed up: a whole lot of nothing pretending to go somewhere.
Guys, Natirasha is active lurking. That's not scummy in and of itself, but the fact that it

poses

as substantive scummy makes it suspicious. Whenever he is ever pressed to explain his nebulous posts, he just

sits

there.
Why isn't this getting more attention??

CDB is bad in a similar way, but he doesn't pretend he's actually been playing the game. Slandaar is bad in almost the same way, but he's always that bad screw him.

2.

yeah it's not my best comment. I could have made a better one, but then again...

Really? You acknowledged Aegor's argument? Now that's a bit suspicious.

now that's an interesting view. what's suspicious about aknowledging my comedy limits?

Post 24 is why I think the Freak wagon is bad.
The running narrative about Freak's page one behavior is that he's been "nervous and attempting to brush off the sudden attention";
This pretty naturally prepared post makes evident the more plausible thesis that

Freak simply treated Aegor's criticism of his RVS vote as criticism of his writing style

and reacted appropriately. The rest of the controversy over Freak is confirmation bias and poor reading.

His posts consistently read as town and people need to get off the idea of him being scum.

Undo, why did you take so long to vote Freak after he became suspicious to you?

[~Jordan`]

is bella like the female instantiation of cyberbob?

[Freak]

Oh,

Unvote

, I forgot about that.

Anyway, to address the alleged cases made against my predecessor:

[quotes Slandaar's post 172]

Argument flawed: Assume existence of "RVS" (it doesn't, no votes are truly random), assumes existence of "tells" and that vote-hopping isn't one of them ("tells" are never absolute, and vote hopping is absolutely a behaviour associated with certain scum strategies). Essentially boils down to a dislike of jargon, which I kinda agree with but at least it's a step up from pure concentrated stupid.

I don't like this defense. Yes, random may not be the right word for it,

bogus votes

is more appropriate maybe, but either way -- Doc accused Jordan of vote hopping after he joined the first "Real-ish" vote of the game. His previous vote was on NicCage, apparently motivated by the fact that NC voted the first player to post because he himself wanted to be the first player to post, and Jordan didn't seem to like that.

Now, is it really vote hopping when it's shit like that? I really think it's not, and that Doc made a shit show about it. I expected you to at least agree with this.

Also, either tells are never absolute or vote hopping is absolutely a scumtell. Make up your mind.

1. I challenge anyone ITT to show where in Natirasha's iso anything is said that is substantially helpful.
Natirasha summed up: a whole lot of nothing pretending to go somewhere.
Guys, Natirasha is active lurking. That's not scummy in and of itself, but the fact that it

poses

as substantive scummy makes it suspicious. Whenever he is ever pressed to explain his nebulous posts, he just

sits

there.
Why isn't this getting more attention??

if that's how she plays I don't know what's gonna change with more attention, but yeah I'm down with any

Let's make Nat open up

initiative.






And Aegor, regarding to this post:

yeah, undo, your post is so very constructive and you totally didn't do again that thing where you cut out of the discussion the part where I call you out on your bullshit.

undo wagon > doc wagon > cdb wagon

come on guys

So....This is basically just OMGUS followed by sheeping.

Freak has been added to my lynch pool.

fuck you for two reasons:

* you're discrediting my comment on undo as

just OMGUS

, after I repeated all game I think that's scum behavior and not stupid behavior.

but probably you didn't even read my posts because,

* you say I'm sheeping while I summarized my position on lynches up until that post, a position I shared with no one else so who would be the one I'm sheeping?


Besides, using the concept of OMGUS as you and CooLDoG did regarding this case is ridiculous to begin with, because any scum behavior can be explained by that person sucking at being town. So if you're gonna hunt scum, why even consider that option?

[Freak]

@Aegor, that's a typo. I put in a 12 hour day at work for the past 2-3 days. Obviously, town doesn't win by putting itself against each other. I meant experienced scum was turning the newb town against each other and sailing. It all ran together.

who are the other newbs here besides me, now that doc is gone?