Left 4 Dead Mafia! (Game Over!)

[Svenskt Stål]

i didnt read d1 welp

all i know is the last 2 days were speedlynches cause there were guilties

are you fucking serious

[Metal Sonic]

Also something tells me that the two setup looks awfully similar

ehh try not to assume this. xenomafia were barely similar.

although this game uses the same mechanics of the previous game though, but this time its the town that are the zombies, not the scum. so ya its different.

[sekai no ki]

Yeah town MS here.

Hi.

[Metal Sonic]

i am a very nice player and i do not use vitriol against perfectly innocent people

unlike pidgey uh huh with that "dipshit" business

[Metal Sonic]

Yeah town MS here.

Hi.

i took 5 seconds to take a peek at page 1 who was this

and this seems like a boss hydra







i hope

[GuyInFreezer]

Also something tells me that the two setup looks awfully similar

ehh try not to assume this. xenomafia were barely similar.

although this game uses the same mechanics of the previous game though, but this time its the town that are the zombies, not the scum. so ya its different.

I said that because the flips in this game match the setup in the previous game so far.

[Metal Sonic]

well clearly the role "herder" was invented by the game mod himself lol

but it is entirely possible that the other standard game PRs in the mix might be different

for example AMNESIAC COP

[GuyInFreezer]

s-i-m-i-l-a-r

(why am I arguing over stuff like this and being grumpy
It must be because someone woke me up over skype at 6 AM)

[Metal Sonic]

in my geography class my teacher told me that using "similar" to describe two graphs meant that the two graphs were the "same"

i was terribly confused

[Metal Sonic]

I'll post that ISO analysis tomorrow morning lol I forgot about it and switched off my com

[PeregrineV]

1. Majiffy
^Scum. I already explained the basics behind it, but basically, Majiffy's posting here is entirely scum-oriented. The best of his posting is "meh", when almost all the rest of it is scun. He puts on a good act, but this is his scumplay.

2. Toogeloo/Newplayer
^I'll need more content before this solidifies, but I remember Toog being fairly town, so a decent townread. Basically, posting seems fairly genuine and looks oriented on scumhunting, rather than manipulating.

3. Sekai no Ki (Fferyllt/Pieguyn Hydra)
^Scum, through-and-through. I've been pounding this one in, but the simplest way of saying it is that their entire posting has zero scumhunting in it, and is entirely focused on manipulating things. They're survivalistic and using basically every trick in the scumbag's handbook.

4. SweatingChessball (DrippingGoofball/Chesskid3 Hydra)
^Also a decent townread. Though they haven't been posting as much as I'd prefer, and their content as of recently has been slightly lackluster, they're still a fairly decent townread, because their thoughts seem to be coming from a town player. Both of them have stances that are easy to see and relate to. Basically, just by extrapolating their posting, you can see that they're town; they've got a clear trajectory that is easily followed, and I can easily understand what gives them their reads.

5. PeregrineV
^Basically conftown thanks to his reaction to being wagoned.

6. RedCoyote
^A minor townread. His posting looks to be his Walking Dead self, in that I can see him thinking those things as town and it has the same basic tone. However, this is not a strong read, because RC's content is absolute crap and he's basically been a hardcore lurker--even active-lurking, because his massive walls? The content in them is mostly useless, and disjointed from his reads.

8. Alpazard (Pitoli/NotScience Hydra)
^Strongish townread. I really liked their reaction to pressure, but beyond that, they've got some good posting which looks to be unique. They strongly look like town who's thinking things through, and coming up with their own reads and reasoning. I've shown some of this, but not all of it.

9. Aegor
^Solid townread, but admittedly a bit of a stale one. Aegor's posting strongly looks town overall, coming from a town mindset. There are parts of the game where when I see his posting, I think "meh". But as a counterpart to Majiffy, that's the WORST in his posting; there are other times where I can clearly see the town in his posting.

10. GuyInFreezer
^Also a decent scumread. Basically, GiF's posting, pure and simple, looks like it comes from a scum mindset. It doesn't look like he's analyzing things. It doesn't look like he's scumhunting. It looks like he already knows the answers, and is posting around that. His reads make no sense from town, either; they use bad reasoning and all-in-all, he comes across as being highly fake.

11. Bulbazak
^One of my strongest townreads. Bulbazak's posting is basically pure town essence. His thoughts line up nearly perfectly with my own. His reasoning, I can see. His read progression and evolution is natural, and not forced. He's analyzing. He's scumhunting. He's not manipulating players; he's trying to figure things out. Add in his early (but highly genuine) AtE, and you've got a solid town player.

12. Thor665
^Probably town. I've really liked Thor's posting overall, but like several others, this is mostly from the beginning. His recent posting is more null, but the only player I can see him as being scum with is apparently town, and even then, that was just a brief theory. His reasoning, I can follow. I can see where he gets his stances from, and actually agree with a fair bit. Though I'm admittedly not good at reading Thor, I do believe that's still a strong indicator of him being town.

13. Svenskt Stål
^Weaker scumread. Sven's largely dropped off my radar. He's been lurking. His earlier posting was bad, and his best posting has been highly "meh". His stances make no sense, and overall, he reads as being highly survivalistic, and also manipulative. However, I CAN see him as being town. Especially given my much stronger scumreads.

14. Rubicon
^Decent scumread, but near the bottom of my list. Rubicon's posting has all been awful. It's just been entirely anti-town, without a shred of pro-town thought. The closest he came to having pro-town content is the post where he basically called most of my suspects scum, and that's another reason I've doubted my scumread on him, since him being scum and me being right about others being scum would require him basically turbo-bussing. HOWEVER, his content since then has gone back to being lurking pieces of trash, not productive, and basically, not town.

15. ActionDan
^Though he was a minor scumread of mine, his claim apparently means he's town, soyeah.

16. Vezokpiraka
^Even without the claim, he was a strong townread. With it, he's conftown.

17. BBMolla
^Identical to Vezok, albeit slightly weaker on both accounts. BBMolla is town.

18. Pidgey
^Nulltown. Pidgey's posting has seemed town at points, but it's entirely lacking, overall, and he has a lot of bad interactions.

19. AngryPidgeon
^Frustratingly, town. This is a town-AP, through-and-through.

20. dopog
^Also town. I've REALLY liked dopog's posting this game. It's unique, it's original, it strongly looks like town forming their own opinion and analyzing things, rather than scum trying to manipulate.

21. Nero Cain
^Though he's gone V/LA, the content Nero's posted has seemed solidly town. So, overall a decent townread, albeit not a strong one. When he returns, I'm fully confident he'll obvtown up in his own unique way.

22. Zdenek
^Among my strongest townreads. Zdenek's posting this game has been right on the money. His thoughts are easy to follow and raise REALLY good points, a lot of which I've agreed with. And even the ones I didn't, I could understand where he came from. He's strongly analyzing things and trying to figure them out, working with others, rather than manipulating them. Bluntly, the only concern I could have about him is that I don't remember a town him having been this competent. That a "too townie to be town" fallacy is literally the only way he's not town should give you a good idea of just how strongly town he is.

[Majiffy]

VOTE: vezok piraka

vote parking this is not a serious vote

You should try not putting down "not serious votes" on leading wagons of the day.

i am a very nice player and i do not use vitriol against perfectly innocent people

Perfectly innocent mafia players?

[PeregrineV]

These are my scum reads of varying degrees;
{Toog, Mastin, Vezok, Pidgey}
Thoughts on each?

Town reads;
{Molla, Rubicon}
Also kinda want to say I had these as town, too;
{Svenskt Stål, dopog}

Thoughts on these would be appreciated too.

Do you have an updated version of these?

[Majiffy]

Midget, Sven, Molla, Zdenek town
Apla/MS leaning town
Sekai, Aegor, AD, Vezok, Pidgey scum

You and GIF still null, probably won't ever read.

[Majiffy]

I'd say Sekai and Aegor are more lean-scum but paranoia/unignorable gut vibes, respectively.

[Majiffy]

Also apparently unignorable is not a word?

The fuck, English.

[vezokpiraka]

Midget, Sven, Molla, Zdenek town
Apla/MS leaning town
Sekai, Aegor, AD, Vezok, Pidgey scum

You and GIF still null, probably won't ever read.

You have 5 people listed as scum when two scum already died. What's up with that?

[Majiffy]

Scum reads are scum reads. Someone might flip town. Do you want me sitting around with my thumbs up my ass saying "hurr well all my scum reads are flipped either town or scum so I guess I'm done lol"?

Fucking retard.

[vezokpiraka]

Scum reads are scum reads. Someone might flip town. Do you want me sitting around with my thumbs up my ass saying "hurr well all my scum reads are flipped either town or scum so I guess I'm done lol"?

Fucking retard.

And now you are insulting me for no real reason.
I think you are scum that wants to leave himself as many mislynches as possible.

[Majiffy]

Sure thing buddy.

[Metal Sonic]

ok

vezok is town

but i absolutely agree with majiffy's opinion on him

[Majiffy]

vezok is town

but i absolutely agree with majiffy's opinion on him

... my opinion is that hes scum.

[Metal Sonic]

oh i was referring to "Fucking retard."

[Majiffy]

Well theres that too but it isnt alignment indicative.

[GuyInFreezer]

V/LA for weekend