His vote today on you was half assed, he pushed Katerina to the point of claiming with out even voting them, let lone building a case. I haven't seen the degree of paranoia you describe as a town tell. I see aggression, not paranoia. ScumIn post 1348, Sound of Silence wrote:Town-Bert's paranoia about the fery head of this hydra knows no bounds. His paranoia about the GiF head is nearly as all-consuming. Based on our prior games, I don't think he's currently capable of fooling us with fake paranoia about fery, and probably not about GiF either.In post 1334, WrathChild wrote:SoS, why are you town-reading Bert. I feel like the KA counter wagon is scum driven. Slammed at work, I need some time to compare some voting trends from today. I've been trying to lead a lot of different wagons today and want to compare who jumps on who, but haven't had the chance. If anyone wants to please feel free to.
Though Bert is the easier read of the bertkerberos hydra, Nacho's mafia soul was forged in the same infernal fires as fery's. When he's trying to hit the right notes around her, he'strying. When he's town, hitting those notes is very close to effortless. fery gets fooled frequently enough that she's not going to help nacho figure out what the right notes currently are so this explanation is all you get.
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Disagree. The Bert head is mostly absent right now. 3 weeks vla. But his initial reaction to our early day 1 trolling was town-bert paranoia. As was his immediate vote upon his return and finding some slight appetite for our lynch in recent posts.In post 1350, WrathChild wrote:
His vote today on you was half assed, he pushed Katerina to the point of claiming with out even voting them, let lone building a case. I haven't seen the degree of paranoia you describe as a town tell. I see aggression, not paranoia. ScumIn post 1348, Sound of Silence wrote:
Town-Bert's paranoia about the fery head of this hydra knows no bounds. His paranoia about the GiF head is nearly as all-consuming. Based on our prior games, I don't think he's currently capable of fooling us with fake paranoia about fery, and probably not about GiF either.In post 1334, WrathChild wrote:SoS, why are you town-reading Bert. I feel like the KA counter wagon is scum driven. Slammed at work, I need some time to compare some voting trends from today. I've been trying to lead a lot of different wagons today and want to compare who jumps on who, but haven't had the chance. If anyone wants to please feel free to.
Though Bert is the easier read of the bertkerberos hydra, Nacho's mafia soul was forged in the same infernal fires as fery's. When he's trying to hit the right notes around her, he'strying. When he's town, hitting those notes is very close to effortless. fery gets fooled frequently enough that she's not going to help nacho figure out what the right notes currently are so this explanation is all you get.
Nacho is playing aggressively. But, aggressive doesn't equal scum.
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No.In post 1349, beastcharizard wrote:
I thought there might be a chance. In order for what you are saying to make sense that would mean you think I would be bussing CJ if I voted them.In post 1347, Drunken Lies wrote:
Honest question: did you seriously believe this would work? Because it looks more to me like using false logic to set up lynches.In post 1345, beastcharizard wrote:and then if CJ flipped scum we would be able to focus on the people who said yes that they did mind.
You said, "Ask if it's ok to put CJ at L-1 and then lynch those who say Yes."
You are offering false assumptions as valid information from which to make conclusions. 1) that if CJ were scum, his buddies would actively come to his defense and 2) the people that say they don't like you putting someone at L-1 are scum.
Both of these have too many variables to use as a concrete foundation for hypothesis. You are introducing fallacies and attempting to affect lynches with it. Which is exactly what I said.- MafiaSSK
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Prodding Katsuki.
Vote Count 26
Sound of Silence (1): PeregrineV
Bertkerberos (5): WrathChild, Katarina LeBlanc, Doduo
Misaka Network (0):
Doduo (1): Sakura Hana
Candle Jack (1): Katsuki
Wrathchild (0):
KingdomAces (3): Misaka Network, Candle Jack, Antihero
DrunkenLies (1): Sound of Silence
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beastcharizard (1): KingdomAces
Katsuki (1): Drunken Lies
Katarina Leblanc (1): Bertkerberos
notscience head of Doduo, is on VLA until the 21st.
Deadline for the second lynch is in (expired on 2014-03-22 15:41:00).
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Bert is pretty high on my town list right now. The fact that he is the counterwagon to KA is not surprising. I had thought Doduo was likely town but haven't had that feeling in a while. I'm also inclined to believe the triple voter is more likely a town role.
Given EP's townflip, I am also inclined to go back to my original suspicion of Wrath's role/alignment/claim. As I understand it, alignment was not confirmed to either, is that right? So one could be scum? I actually need some info on this part as I'm not familiar with the theme. And mobile so can't go look at the two names mod IC'd in beginning. But Wrath claimed to be one of them, iirc. Are these the same people? I don't even remember.
Anyway if you assume those two town, doduo is the only possible scum there. Plus anyone cheerleading the bert wagon without actually placing a vote (names?)
Only thing that bugs me about KA wagon is all 3 of those people on it are fucking suspect. I find it interesting that Anti was hollering about how scummy CJ was yet votes in agreement with him.
... just noticed SoS voting us. Are you really that lost? I have probably read less of this game than you and have a better idea of where to look. I feel like that vote is a placeholder for laziness or lurking.- Sound of Silence
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Hey DL, you are saying that you are suspicious of people cheerleading the Bert lynch but not voting, which is precisely one of my main points against Bert. He got five votes piled on katarina without a case and without actually voting her. You called katarina town, but still this seems like townplay by Bert? You think Bert is town and are not surprised that he is the counter wagon to ka, but you think the ka wagon is scum heavy? First, the ka wagon was to derail the ongoing Bert wagon, second you are a flip floppy piece of contradicting scun. You are next after Bert.I swear I left my gun somewhere.- Antihero
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hey ETLIn post 1355, Drunken Lies wrote:Only thing that bugs me about KA wagon is all 3 of those people on it are fucking suspect. I find it interesting that Anti was hollering about how scummy CJ was yet votes in agreement with him.
>read candlejack's recent posting again
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>realize why i backed off
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I do sorta but you are not acting the way you were in your other town games. Its not that you are playing your scum game; more that I do not see your town game here.
SoS I dont know what you're talking about so I don't think anything about it.
Wrath - flip floppy? Where have flip flopped? And wouldnt that tell you I am town anyway? I'm more suspicious of people who park their votes. I dont think you have a good handle on how to apply scum tells, imo, no offense. But yeah I think this is definitely Bert's town game, to a T. Have you had experience with him? Because I do.- Sound of Silence
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I hope you're not serious.In post 1355, Drunken Lies wrote: Given EP's townflip, I am also inclined to go back to my original suspicion of Wrath's role/alignment/claim.- Katarina LeBlanc
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You know, you're tittering the line between completely lost villager and extremely daft scum.In post 1360, Drunken Lies wrote:I do sorta but you are not acting the way you were in your other town games. Its not that you are playing your scum game; more that I do not see your town game here.
SoS I dont know what you're talking about so I don't think anything about it.
Wrath - flip floppy? Where have flip flopped? And wouldnt that tell you I am town anyway? I'm more suspicious of people who park their votes. I dont think you have a good handle on how to apply scum tells, imo, no offense. But yeah I think this is definitely Bert's town game, to a T. Have you had experience with him? Because I do.
The reason the votes are parked on Bert is because he started scumreading me, and pushing bad lynches the entire day all together. Basically, he's acting like scum. In no way has he justified all the lynches he has pushed nor has he refuted points held up against him rather than continue with tunnelfaced-ness despite being proven wrong. That's a scummy thing to do. He's doing things with scum intention.
How does that fit anyone's town game?
If you say that you know his town game, then defend it. Don't make a generalization of "oh he's acting town" just to excuse him of what he's doing. Let's give you one last opportunity to redeem yourself, quit scumreading the IC and use your damn logic from now on.- Misaka Network
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How does EP's townflip have any sort of effect on Wrath's role/alignment/claim?In post 1363, Misaka Network wrote:
I hope you're not serious.In post 1355, Drunken Lies wrote: Given EP's townflip, I am also inclined to go back to my original suspicion of Wrath's role/alignment/claim.- Antihero
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Maybe you should unclick it, old sport
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Katarina's first real attack is on EP for "self imposing a town block", which doesn't make any sort of sense and just seems like a weak reason to vote. Her end of meta interactions are also kind of shit here: she states that no one understands her meta and she won't look town for anyone and beast will never comprehend her depth and then boring shitIn post 594, Katarina LeBlanc wrote:
Cite NOC games where you can equate my meta. Not including my first game in the site (Knight Errant). I want you to read through the entirety of my thought process and what makes you think you have a shred of knowledge that you think you know what goes through my head. I will not look town for the sake of you, you have to figure that out yourself.In post 570, beastcharizard wrote:
Being useless. You are doing nothing. You are normally way more proactive then this. Normally I am certain if you are town by this point.In post 564, Katarina LeBlanc wrote:
Why am I doing what? :3In post 552, beastcharizard wrote:Why are you doing this? You never do this when you are town. Your play is actually frustrating me at this point.
Oh really, what's your win/loss as TownIn post 571, Endless Possibilities wrote:as i grow stronger on mafiascum hannah grows weaker
or maybe just plain scum
Why are you trying to self impose a townblock including yourself. That first post of yours that included a bunch of names was just pretty weird.In post 590, Endless Possibilities wrote:Beast if by the slim chance that you are town follow me and lynch candle jack
All you PO guys can trust my scumhunting
Besides pieguy just made my hydra on town for me for free so you guys can also trust me yes
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I was in the process of explaining myself: that piece was ignored completely.In post 671, Katarina LeBlanc wrote:
It's okay friend, no one saw it.In post 653, WrathChild wrote:Unlike the last guy that claimed I need to. Two days left I'm lynch leader and I don't think this play is too terrible even if I didn't need to claim. I'm phoenix, IC. Hopefully the other guy stays quiet for now.
Let's start piling up on this guy
VOTE: Bert
You were counterclaimed flavor-wise, explain yourself.
Why would you add an unnecessary "joke" at the end of your post, it doesn't fit within the general tone of it. Rather, something to seal off the read or the entire post.
My vote is on you because Misaka just soared through the roof in townreads and has a cuter avatar than yours. I think I already know your to the name theft deal, but I want to hear it from your own fingers.
@SOS - So you're acknowledging you're not his Mason buddy o3o
Bolded is legitimately telling me that I'm scum because I didn't format my post right which is... troubling...Meet the heads: Dr. Dre is Nachomamma8, the mentor; 50 Cent is Bert, the troll who never dies.- Bertkerberos
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You know if you're going to use me calling someone town as a reason to push them harder, you might as well just be voting meIn post 1371, Antihero wrote:...and nacho's are already showing up to tell me i'm full of shit
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