NY 172: Another Large Normal (GAME OVER)

[Luca Blight]

Talah, so much digging going on. He claims I am a shoe-in for scum (absolute rubbish, since when has inactivity always equated to scum) and then self-votes. His opening posts also looked every so slightly dodgy.

UNVOTE:

VOTE: Talah

[Snork]

p-edit: Why anyone is pushing MR is outside my ability to understand. His intentions are so transparent. Another reason Talah is scum. MR comes around to scumreading him, and voila, MR is a magical lynch option.

This is a pretty bad reason to be scumreading talah. The only reason for him to be scumreading MR is because he as scum would want to look town from it. No way someone like talah as scum actually thinks he has a chance of lynching MR.

I don't think that's the point, imo. Assuming Talah is scum, I don't think his intention here is to mislynch MR. I think his intention is to split votes and make noise. I disagree with you that it's a bad reason to scumread Talah. I don't see the logic behind Talah's sudden attack on MR. It doesn't make sense to me given the history in the thread. I also think that had Pisskop not already been making a push on MR, Talah might have addressed MR's suspicion of him differently, in the way he addressed others' suspicions of him. I feel that Talah's attack on MR is purely OMGUS and not based in reality. I think that is mostly a null tell, mostly, but when compared with all the other reasons I am scumreading Talah, it fits and does not dispel my previous suspicious.

p-edit: Oh yeah. Luca. Well, that's the biggest reason I'm currently scumreading Talah. Using Luca as an excuse not to scumhunt or vote anyone else is just so bad.

[talah]

Talah, I guess I disagree. Mister Rogers just seems

really

into the game and wanting everything done his way to an extent that I can't see scum mimicking. I will also say that I doubt your push on Mister Rogers (nor your self-vote) is going to lead anywhere today and you most likely won't be getting my support, but feel free to prove me wrong, as I acknowledge that I could be wrong about MR.

Ehhhh.. Look yeah I get where you're coming from, and I agree that town can be the worst kind of tunnellers and wrong wrong wrong. I had Rogers as town earlier and please take my editorialisations with a grain of salt. But he's really really irritating and is making this game a really easy place for scum to hide. A lot of people are townreading him; noone's prepared to back his positions. It's just something that needs to be called out for the crap it is.

[Plessiez]

It's day 1. Deadline for the day is March 28th, 21:59 UTC. That's (expired on 2014-03-28 17:59:48).

Vote Count 1.15

talah [5 votes] (AngryPidgeon, Mister Rogers, talah, Snork, Luca Blight)
pisskop [3 votes] (Zdenek, Yates, DeasVail)
4nxi3ty [2 votes] (ThAdmiral, Damon_Gant)
Damon_Gant [2 votes] (SnowStorm, mastin2)
Yates [2 votes] (projectmatt, pisskop)
mastin2 [2 votes] (BipolarChemist, PeregrineV)
Luca Blight [1 vote] (4nxi3ty)
Mister Rogers [1 vote] (Nero Cain)

2 players are not voting

: {aptil, RachMarie}

With

20

players alive it takes

11

votes to lynch somebody or to go to night.

Activity

Nobody has recently been prodded.
BipolarChemist is V/LA until March 23rd.
mastin2 is V/LA until March 31st.

[talah]

And by that, I essentially mean the amount of shitposting he's doing.

If he's town, scum have got to love it. I'll even go so far as to say he doesn't even have to be wrong about everything he's saying - it's the need to filter through the dead skin which is damaging.

Ed: DAMN YOU PLES TAKING MY POSTS OUT OF CONTEXT
(Also I've played in a previous game Ples modded and never said Hi, so "HAI" :D)

[talah]

Talah, so much digging going on. He claims I am a shoe-in for scum (absolute rubbish, since when has inactivity always equated to scum) and then self-votes. His opening posts also looked every so slightly dodgy.

UNVOTE:

VOTE: Talah

...

{crickets chirping}

[Snork]

Talah, let's assume you're town. Just blanket alignment trust, for a moment.

Besides MR, who is the scum on your wagon right now?

[Mister Rogers]

I also find it funny that Talah finds my reads from page 12 repulsive, switched from town-reading the slot that had no content, to "might lynch" without ever interacting with me at all.

Good scumhunting bro.

Btw, I just re-ISO'ed you and I think I understand why people are town reading you so hard after your catchup. I was going to wait to see like your reads post. So far ya, very townie.

But your main? Who is it?

[Snork]

And you're not allowed to say "Snork" either because I already know that's false. I am looking to get your perspective on the others.

p-edit: I don't have a main.

[talah]

Soooo... You're willing to lynch me because a couple of my entry post were 'every so slightly dodgy' and I've voted myself?

What happened in between?

You were on the same wagon as me with 4nxi3ty as well. What was scummy about that vote I made, then?

Do you have other opinions on the game?

Ed: ^@Luca

[Mister Rogers]

Talah, so much digging going on. He claims I am a shoe-in for scum (absolute rubbish, since when has inactivity always equated to scum) and then self-votes. His opening posts also looked every so slightly dodgy.

UNVOTE:

VOTE: Talah

Gosh you know how to speak? Seriously I was about to quote your post and simply say "You're a shoe-in for scum".

If you're town please demonstrate this by getting into the game.

If you're scum, keep jumping on popular wagons and disappearing.

PS I like the addition of words and reasoning. Are you going to be active now?

[talah]

Talah, let's assume you're town. Just blanket alignment trust, for a moment.

Besides MR, who is the scum on your wagon right now?

I'd rather leave that for a moment and see how this thing pans out.

[Snork]

Talah, let's assume you're town. Just blanket alignment trust, for a moment.

Besides MR, who is the scum on your wagon right now?

I'd rather leave that for a moment and see how this thing pans out.

I'd rather we had an honest discourse.

[talah]

And you're not allowed to say "Snork" either because I already know that's false. I am looking to get your perspective on the others.

p-edit: I don't have a main.

This is kind of an aside but I was thinking you may have played a small part in Fire Emblem, never mind.

[Snork]

EBWOP: "had" should be "have".

But seriously, Talah. You don't want to analyze your own wagon?

[Mister Rogers]

4nxi3ty (mostly for 213 as it completely ignores that he's actually proving himself that town do indeed have doubt)

Nice thread research but what exactly do you mean? Is he somehow asserting that town shouldn't have doubt?

[talah]

Talah, let's assume you're town. Just blanket alignment trust, for a moment.

Besides MR, who is the scum on your wagon right now?

I'd rather leave that for a moment and see how this thing pans out.

I'd rather we had an honest discourse.

I really want your answer to my 966. It feels important to me.

[Mister Rogers]

Ah that reminds, I've actually changed my mind about Pisskop. I kind of liked the way he responded to me last night. I think his reads are pretty bad but I can see what he's doing.

+1 Wow I think I am very glad you are here.

[talah]

EBWOP: "had" should be "have".

But seriously, Talah. You don't want to analyze your own wagon?

Five votes, one of which is mine, is barely good wagon analysis.
This is a bit of a problem I had with Pidgeon as well - jumping in all over things which need to take their proper course.

[talah]

Ah that reminds, I've actually changed my mind about Pisskop. I kind of liked the way he responded to me last night. I think his reads are pretty bad but I can see what he's doing.

+1 Wow I think I am very glad you are here. :)

See, in this instance I don't even know what Rogers is saying. Is he saying that Snork is town? Is he saying that pisskop it town? Both? Is he buddying Snork?

Who knows. Certainly not anyone.

[Snork]

I get what MR is saying with 992.

Talah, let's assume you're town. Just blanket alignment trust, for a moment.

Besides MR, who is the scum on your wagon right now?

I'd rather leave that for a moment and see how this thing pans out.

I'd rather we had an honest discourse.

I really want your answer to my 966. It feels important to me.

Go about your catch-up then, but I still wanna hear that list of who I've been defending without reason.

Would you prefer I gave you some off-the-top-of-my-head BS answer? This is going to take time to compile, as I have not ISO'd you in depth yet. But it is on my list.

EBWOP: "had" should be "have".

But seriously, Talah. You don't want to analyze your own wagon?

Five votes, one of which is mine, is barely good wagon analysis.
This is a bit of a problem I had with Pidgeon as well - jumping in all over things which need to take their proper course.

Do you think jumping at shadows, or what appear to be shadows, is a scumtell?

[Snork]

Ah that reminds, I've actually changed my mind about Pisskop. I kind of liked the way he responded to me last night. I think his reads are pretty bad but I can see what he's doing.

+1 Wow I think I am very glad you are here.

See, in this instance I don't even know what Rogers is saying. Is he saying that Snork is town? Is he saying that pisskop it town? Both? Is he buddying Snork?

Who knows. Certainly not anyone.

Also, I think attributing ignorance to the entire playerlist is bad. If you are confused about something he's posting, why don't you ask him instead?

[Mister Rogers]

MR comes around to scumreading him, and voila, MR is a magical lynch option. I'm sure Pisskop's misguided attention towards him helped Talah decide this was a good idea.

My take on it was that it was a progression. Initially I think he thought he could manipulate me (coercion into voting lurkers) & buddy me (compliment me on BJC improving the game state) but once it became official (I posted my short scum list & re-voted him), he named me as a scum suspect.

[Snork]

I wouldn't call that progression - at least not a natural one.

[Mister Rogers]

A lot of people are townreading him; noone's prepared to back his positions. It's just something that needs to be called out for the crap it is.

I accept criticism. I've never seen you trying to call out anything. Your own case against you does not count.