NY 172: Another Large Normal (GAME OVER)


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Post Post #1125 (ISO) » Sat Mar 22, 2014 11:07 am

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It's day 1. Deadline for the day is March 28th, 21:59 UTC. That's (expired on 2014-03-28 17:59:48).

Vote Count 1.17
talah [4 votes] (AngryPidgeon, Mister Rogers, Snork, Luca Blight)
Luca Blight [4 votes] (4nxi3ty, projectmatt, Damon_Gant, Nero Cain)
pisskop [3 votes] (Zdenek, Yates, DeasVail)
Damon_Gant [2 votes] (SnowStorm, mastin2)
mastin2 [2 votes] (BipolarChemist, PeregrineV)
4nxi3ty [1 vote] (ThAdmiral)
Yates [1 vote] (pisskop)

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: {aptil, RachMarie, talah}

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Post Post #1126 (ISO) » Sat Mar 22, 2014 11:17 am

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Oh dear goodness. I might finally be getting it. People actually sympathize with Talah for saying, "I'm lost"?

Just for the record I will say this: That is the scummiest assertion a person with Talah's experience could possibly make. It is proven to be a lie from his Gundam game. A scum that is "lost" does not have to attack players, make cases or otherwise expose themselves to scrutiny; they can spend their time posturing and buddying people as Talah has done all game.

And finally, if you force scum to actually scum hunt by requiring it in their ISO, you force them to leave tracks that can be analyzed days down the road and yes including and most especially LYLO. Again, that's why an "I'm lost" attitude is so scummy. No cases to analyze, less meaningful & trackable data. Less risk.
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Post Post #1127 (ISO) » Sat Mar 22, 2014 11:19 am

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@Nero: With your game so far? Definitely not. You wanna lynch me, better get humping.
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Post Post #1128 (ISO) » Sat Mar 22, 2014 11:22 am

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In post 1124, DeasVail wrote:
In post 1050, Mister Rogers wrote:@DV: Also, you played in that game with him. How come you didn't notice the difference in his play?
Is this a question, or is it just the beginnings of an accusation that you're cleverly but not really disgusing?
I don't like how you ask this question and then don't answer mine.

Speaking of tone, am I noticing a tonal change in DV with this post?
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Post Post #1129 (ISO) » Sat Mar 22, 2014 11:23 am

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Mister Rogers, if someone has a different opinion from your own, it doesn't necessarily mean that they're blinded by emotion, just dumb, or scum.

PEdit: Yes, I'm noticing a tonal change as well! Well done!
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Post Post #1130 (ISO) » Sat Mar 22, 2014 11:26 am

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Hey Nero, I've got an idea! Since I'm a Bert-alt and everything I am obviously wrong about Talah, right?

GREAT! So lets get him lynched so you have case material for my wagon!!!

Its a win-win!

Deal?
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Post Post #1131 (ISO) » Sat Mar 22, 2014 11:26 am

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See that would make it EASY for you because you wouldn't have to do any work. :D
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Post Post #1132 (ISO) » Sat Mar 22, 2014 11:28 am

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In post 1129, DeasVail wrote:Mister Rogers, if someone has a different opinion from your own, it doesn't necessarily mean that they're blinded by emotion, just dumb, or scum.
Are you referencing something specific here or just throwing out general tips?

Did you answer my question that you have dodged once (twice?) already?
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Post Post #1133 (ISO) » Sat Mar 22, 2014 11:29 am

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In post 1132, Mister Rogers wrote:Are you referencing something specific here or just throwing out general tips?

Did you answer my question that you have dodged once (twice?) already?
I am referencing your previous post.

I didn't and don't intend to (basically it's a question to which there is no reasonable answer and I think discussing it would be wasting everyone's time).
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Post Post #1134 (ISO) » Sat Mar 22, 2014 11:31 am

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In post 1124, DeasVail wrote:Talah, regardless of your alignment, don't let this game affect you too much. Esp. if your town, players will be players and do silly things and be frustrating etc. and if you're scum then I understand even moreso.
Roger. Pun intended. Still town, but thanks.
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Post Post #1135 (ISO) » Sat Mar 22, 2014 11:37 am

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In post 1133, DeasVail wrote:
In post 1132, Mister Rogers wrote:Are you referencing something specific here or just throwing out general tips?

Did you answer my question that you have dodged once (twice?) already?
I am referencing your previous post.

I didn't and don't intend to (basically it's a question to which there is no reasonable answer and I think discussing it would be wasting everyone's time).
No reasonable answer.

He is contradicting his town meta in this game and all you have to say is that "there is plenty of variance in people's town games and so its not a significant tell".

So its perfectly OK that he hasn't scum hunted this game and normally he's a scum hunting bunny? <=== Could you please answer that question?
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Post Post #1136 (ISO) » Sat Mar 22, 2014 11:48 am

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Can someone tell Vadgers to actually look up my scum meta, which consists in its entirety, of one game?

Because he's effectively saying that I'm newb-scum who has mastered the art of scumming with effectively zero experience. He's also not cross-referencing any of my other town games, which do demonstrate an evolution of process.

Meta can be done right, and it can be done wrong, and then it can be done like this. Doing none of the work and presenting it as a polished "meta case".
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Post Post #1137 (ISO) » Sat Mar 22, 2014 11:54 am

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In post 1136, talah wrote:Can someone tell Vadgers to actually look up my scum meta, which consists in its entirety, of one game?

Because he's effectively saying that I'm newb-scum who has mastered the art of scumming with effectively zero experience. He's also not cross-referencing any of my other town games, which do demonstrate an evolution of process.

Meta can be done right, and it can be done wrong, and then it can be done like this. Doing none of the work and presenting it as a polished "meta case".
Stop misrepping my meta case. It has absolutely nothing to do with you being an expert. It has to do with you not being yourself.

Nowhere does the meta case say anything about you being expert scum and that's twice you've misrepped it.

You having one scum game has nothing to do with the fact that you DO have enough experience to scum hunt effectively and that this is totally lacking in this game.

Keep swinging back and forth from "pity me the newb" to "Rogers is derp, I'm the expert". How many times can you make that swing for us?
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Post Post #1138 (ISO) » Sat Mar 22, 2014 11:56 am

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In post 1135, Mister Rogers wrote:He is
contradicting his town meta
playing differently from what I'm presenting as a full picture of his town meta in the single Gundam post I quoted
in this game and all you have to say is that "there is plenty of variance in people's town games and so its not a significant tell".
I hate fixing errors for people.
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Post Post #1139 (ISO) » Sat Mar 22, 2014 11:56 am

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I sure hope pages 37 to 46 are less pedantic bullshit than p 36 was.
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Post Post #1140 (ISO) » Sat Mar 22, 2014 12:00 pm

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In post 1138, talah wrote:
In post 1135, Mister Rogers wrote:He is
contradicting his town meta
playing differently from what I'm presenting as a full picture of his town meta in the single Gundam post I quoted
in this game and all you have to say is that "there is plenty of variance in people's town games and so its not a significant tell".
I hate fixing errors for people.
More misrep. When I present the meta case I specifically indicate and I quote: "It's not cherry picked. Look through his ISO and you will see what I mean". There is a link right in that post for people to go through your ISO as I suggest.

So quit it. You're making yourself look really bad 3 times misrepping this.
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Post Post #1141 (ISO) » Sat Mar 22, 2014 12:02 pm

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In post 907, RachMarie wrote:i am getting a T v T feel from the froofroo tween Nero and MR

dudes maybe should look at other players...
Yes.
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Post Post #1142 (ISO) » Sat Mar 22, 2014 12:04 pm

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And to that point, Talah, you have not once defended yourself properly against the
actual
meta case and you know, I kinda find it hard to believe its because your reading comprehension is that bad because you are obviously an intelligent guy.
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Post Post #1143 (ISO) » Sat Mar 22, 2014 12:06 pm

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In post 919, talah wrote:Will lynch:
Luca
aptil
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Might lynch:
Snork
pisskop
Pidgeon
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Edit: 4 pedit posts.. Getting to it *sigh*
all of these are either low hanging lurkers or blatant omgus.
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Post Post #1144 (ISO) » Sat Mar 22, 2014 12:07 pm

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@Talah: Did you even take the time to read my game on site?
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Post Post #1145 (ISO) » Sat Mar 22, 2014 12:08 pm

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@AP: Can you bi-locate so we can get an extra vote on the Talah wagon because I'm kicking Luca off... XD
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Post Post #1146 (ISO) » Sat Mar 22, 2014 12:10 pm

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In post 1143, AngryPidgeon wrote:
In post 919, talah wrote:Will lynch:
Luca
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Snow
Rogers

Might lynch:
Snork
pisskop
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Chemist

Edit: 4 pedit posts.. Getting to it *sigh*
all of these are either low hanging lurkers or blatant omgus.
Riii-iiight.

So you're suggesting I expand this to include folks I'm either townreading or want to give time to prove themselves one way or another.
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Post Post #1147 (ISO) » Sat Mar 22, 2014 12:11 pm

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Those reads have no explanation. So totally unlike your Gundam town game.
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Post Post #1148 (ISO) » Sat Mar 22, 2014 12:17 pm

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In post 1146, talah wrote:
In post 1143, AngryPidgeon wrote:
In post 919, talah wrote:Will lynch:
Luca
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Snow
Rogers

Might lynch:
Snork
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Chemist

Edit: 4 pedit posts.. Getting to it *sigh*
all of these are either low hanging lurkers or blatant omgus.
Riii-iiight.

So you're suggesting I expand this to include folks I'm either townreading or want to give time to prove themselves one way or another.
100% scumpost. I'm driving home now be back in a bit.
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Post Post #1149 (ISO) » Sat Mar 22, 2014 12:17 pm

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In post 1135, Mister Rogers wrote:
In post 1133, DeasVail wrote:
In post 1132, Mister Rogers wrote:Are you referencing something specific here or just throwing out general tips?

Did you answer my question that you have dodged once (twice?) already?
I am referencing your previous post.

I didn't and don't intend to (basically it's a question to which there is no reasonable answer and I think discussing it would be wasting everyone's time).
No reasonable answer.

He is contradicting his town meta in this game and all you have to say is that "there is plenty of variance in people's town games and so its not a significant tell".

So its perfectly OK that he hasn't scum hunted this game and normally he's a scum hunting bunny? <=== Could you please answer that question?
So the only reasonable answer is to swoon from your hot hot scumhunting and pledge my fealty to you for the remainder of the game? Ok.
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