NY 172: Another Large Normal (GAME OVER)

[RachMarie]

hey welcome PA

[Snork]

Rach what other reads do you have?

[projectmatt]

Sorry for the last drop in activity. I have the opportunity to meet one of my favorite actors today so that's been my primary preoccupation. Currently, I don't want Talah very much and in spite of the fact that people are clearly jumping on the Luca wagon to look better, I still want him today.

Will post tomorrow if there's still time to do so.

[penguin_alien]

I'll be catching up today; let me know if there's anything in particular you want me to address.

[Yates]

let me know if there's anything in particular you want me to address

Woot! Reads on pisskop and Zdenek, please!

[aptil]

That last line just screams look how town i am , i want a lynch today

I agree that it is superfluous to speculate about a no lynch scenario but do you actually think that's scummy? Especially given the lack of activity by certain players [*cough* you *cough*] and the announced V/LA's of others [Zdenek, Mastin, pisskop] that will actually put us up against the clock?

Yes. We had enough time and even with low activity of some players , i think most of them are experienced enough to not let this happen .

RachMarie has done fuck all and when questioned returns with the fact that she has a headache.

So YOU were the one!

I don't remember who was picking on RM for making "lurker" excuses with the sinus stuff but this stood out to me:

@RachMarie-Mayor-Mod

- are we able to have a votecount tally and timer please?

Was going to do it last night but was too tired and crashed instead. VC coming up....Rach

Because she was the MOD.

Wrong here . That was me .

[Snork]

So YOU were the one!

I don't get this comment. Yates said the same thing.

[aptil]

So YOU were the one!

I don't get this comment. Yates said the same thing.

I am saying he is wrong . You were not the one . That part should have been in quotes .

[Zdenek]

Vote: Luca

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[Snork]

I want to look over Nero again too.

[Snork]

Where was the intent to hammer?

[Damon_Gant]

L-3

[Snork]

Vote: Luca

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Then wth is this?

[Zdenek]

Seeing what would happen.

[AngryPidgeon]

Vote: Luca

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Then wth is this?

[Snork]

Don't act like that's a stupid question, AP.

[AngryPidgeon]

yup roger's floodin thread

Ya holy crap guys. There was like 10+ pages about NOTHING that spawned over the weekend. Lets keep the game readable. Clearly Rogers is an UberNinja alt >.>

Aptil - why the hell are you still sitting on your vote. Like its not an explicitly scummy thing to do, but we've gone an entire day phase without seeing anything committal from you other than "Content = town, lurking = scum" and its HIGH TIME I see something INSPIRING from you to convince me NOT to vig the crap out of you tonight.

VOTE: Talah- This is much better than lynching Luca .

^ Oh, never mind. Elaboration on why from your perspective would be great; I don't recall you talking about Talah, but its possible I missed something in the weekend spam.

RachMarie has done fuck all and when questioned returns with the fact that she has a headache. <<<< Hello?????? Why is anyone townreading this????

My guess is that at least one or 2 scumbags are whiteknighting her (bipolar/talah) because they know they can point to towngames of hers and say that her playstyle being what it is is a town sign this game. And the rest of the people defending her are probably just bad. Although I think I recall seeing some decent posts from her recently.

Wich doesn't really strike me as a town response. Its not a 100% correct tell but I think scum are more likely to avoid responding to attacks. You also did the same to 4nx.

I disagree? I know for me at least, being confrontational is a pretty big scumtell. As scum, I tend to dig in and OMGUS hard or whatever. Totally ignoring pressure on you ALWAYS gets people to call you out. Rogers is new (supposedly?) so I guess he wouldn't be that aware, still Rogers is town though.

If I were scum would I play it as badly as this? Of course not

My first thought was to post a snarky picture here, but I actually kind of like this defense . It feels honest and like something along the lines of what I would say in a similar position.

P-edit: No, I just got here and saw that Zd is fake-hammering people again apparently which is what garnered the reaction. Not your question. Not that I actually expect your question to generate any good reply.

[AngryPidgeon]

I'm starting to worry that Talah is getting bussed.

Awesome, help me bus Talah then.

Zdenek, you seem to think both talah and Luca are scum, but your vote remains on a pisskop wagon that realistically is very unlikely to take off. Why not consider moving it?

Zd, help

me

Luca bus Talah then.

If Luca is town he is the worst player I've ever played with. He's got to be scum, right?

Being the worst player you've ever encountered is likely a null-tell.

FWIW, Im not really interested in lynching Luca today. I get slightly townvibes off him being a blatant troll. Not much, but enough that Im expecting a townflip from him. And whoever was talking about bussing... There is way more motive to post a good case on your buddy if you are bussing. If you are going for credit, go all out. Sheeping cases on townies as you vote them is scummy as fuck. Lurkscum are more likely to just slide on a townwagon quietly to not draw attention to themselves. I think Luca is more likely to be town than not here so mostly moot, but I STRONGLY doubt Luca is scum with Talah.

I think his early attack on Mastin is genuine and good scumhunting (regardless of whether he's right or not), so I don't understand why people are making such a big deal about him not scumhunting.

No it wasn't? He omgus'd mastin, made a meta case on him based on his entry post (which he never elaborated on or backed up in anyway) and then decided he didn't care about mastin and wsa going to leave her to me to sort. So, no, no scumhunting happened there, just posturing and backpedaling out of what was looking like a 1v1. What about Talah's points on mastin were good by any stretch of the imagination? Given you have mastin in your not-lynch pile, this is particularly mindnumbing.

[PeregrineV]

I'll be catching up today; let me know if there's anything in particular you want me to address.

Case on talah
Nero
DV

You're in a pretty sweet spot, imo, so have at it.

[PeregrineV]

Keep clutching those straws, mate!

Nice contribution there. Tell me why you're not scum. Tell me who is and why, with more concrete reasoning than "[ever] so slightly dodgy" opening posts. Ideally quote or link to incriminating posts and give decent reasons.

I am town because I recieved a role PM telling me so. When I find out who is scum, you will be the first to know

Not even a survival vote on the opposing wagon huh? I'll have to go check your ISO, but you think talah is more town than you?

[AngryPidgeon]

I think this kind of stuff is wonderful town attitude.

Encouraging people to policy vote you and self-voting is a "wonderful town attitude"?

WOW. wow. (wow). WHAT?

When it comes to everyone else, I either would attack with you a hug if you suggested their lynch, be prepared to compromise on them, or would still not consider lynching them but have not put them in the list because I'm too lazy to have read them properly yet.

Where do I sit on your ^ above sortings and why?

Looking through Bipolar's ISO, his posts have a scummy feel to them.

Yes. Yes they do. Hes also been hardcore coasting ever since all the dumbs in the thread rained down towncred on him over the fake vig claim.

Dude was V/LA for a while and just got back and suddenly you find him scummy nope nope nope I do not buy it that is definitely scummy of you going for the low hanging fruit

Ok, wait a minute RM. In order for someone to be low-hanging fruit, they have to be actually low-hanging, which Bipolar is not due to all the towncred thrown at him. And Luca suddenly realizing someone is scummy makes sense given that Luca had shittons of posts to catchup on recently.

Rach's post literally make no sense; why would I jump off the wagon of the player with the second highest votes, to someone with no votes? How is that targeting low hanging fruit? I said his posts seem scummy, I never mentioned his V/LA. Rach is the one going for low-hanging fruit, not me.

Huh, actually if this flips scum, Rach needs to be turbo-lynched right after. Thsi could easily be scum QQing about being bussed.

[PeregrineV]

Also need to check this group DeasVail, RachMarie, Yates, Zdenek who took the Luca Blight wagon into the lead away form the talah wagon.

DV was previously voting pisskop.
Rach was previously not voting
Yates was previously voting pisskop.
Zdenek was previously voting pisskop.



Time to look at ISOs re:Talah.

[Damon_Gant]

If I were scum would I play it as badly as this? Of course not

My first thought was to post a snarky picture here, but I actually kind of like this defense . It feels honest and like something along the lines of what I would say in a similar position.

You're joking right? That's a god-awful defence.

[Snork]

Actually, I sa something interesting when I was looking for something in Nero's ISO. Search for Talah in there. I havent gotten to organizing it yet but I think others might see what I mean.

@pa: I await your fresh perspective. Any wagon analysis you manage to do would also be wonderful.

[Nero Cain]

no what do you mean?