Mini 1558 - VisCon: Crossroads [Game Over]

[hiplop]

in all honesty, I can't tell you the exact reason I didn't unvote. Likely was a combination of uncertainty and goofyness. I realize I should have, but I genuinely thought havingfitz was scum at the same time. I was pondering unvoting to like goback and look. It looks bad that I talked about it, but yea I did have my reasons FWIW

[FakeGod]

VoteCount 2.5

SXTLHGaiden [3] - notscience, pieguyn, hiplop
Who [1] - Kalimar
Desperado [1] - havingfitz
hiplop [4] - Majiffy, Desperado, borkjerfkin, Brian Skies

Not Voting [2]

- SXTLHGaiden, Who

With 11 alive it takes 6 to lynch

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Deadline is March 30, 2014, at 11:00 AM PST.
Countdown to deadline: (expired on 2014-03-30 13:00:00)

[Majiffy]

Majiffy is almost certainly town.

Dat scum desperation.

[havingfitz]

So? It's a good reason.

It's not bad.

[Majiffy]

Then there's the 180'd read for *reasons?*

[havingfitz]

Who's next to claim? Zzzzzzzzzzzz

[hiplop]

almost like reads change or something

[Who]

Why are we mass-claiming?

[Brian Skies]

Anyone voting hiplop care to explain why? Vice others on the D1 wagon.

Because he looks like obvscum or really scummy town.

And sometimes it really is the damn butler.

so we should ignore this then? even when the brief things that i said early day 1 would imply that there is viscon continuity? do you think scum wouldn't look into past viscon games and look up the names that i mentioned?

Even if you think that scum could do this (because I wholly believe that they can), why do you think it would be a good idea to try and out a possible protective/investigative role on Day 2 (and this is the issue I have with what you're doing)? What's the town motivation in that?

And I can think of a handful of reasons why Desp wouldn't have died last night even if he were soft-claiming that.

I definitely think this is majiffy scum this game

Why do you think this is Majiffy's scum-game?

[SXTLHGaiden]

I'll drop it then. The issue that i had was how he claimed that the "FakeGod Setup" conftowned him. Especially when in the Desert one, we saw a third party faction from Wingate aligned with town.

[Majiffy]

almost like reads change or something

Yeah not like that, and not in 100 posts and no additional information.

You have completely 180'd your read on me because I'm scumreading you and buddying me obviously wasn't working.

[Brian Skies]

The issue that i had was how he claimed that the "FakeGod Setup" conftowned him.

Hmmm. But this can mean a lot of things. We're talking about FakeGod here.

Desp could be referencing a different character (a certain innocent child for example), flavor, his actual role, set-up speculation, etc.

Regarding Desp not dying, he could have been protected, the scum-team could have completely missed whatever it is Desp is implying, they could have just viewed him as less of a threat, etc.



Regardless, I do want to know what you think about it since you brought it up.

[Kalimar]

Why are we mass-claiming?

Desperado thinks he can break the setup with a mass-claim.

I don't think it'll be fully breakable. Maybe partially.

Can you/Gaiden/NS state disagreement with the MC or just claim? We're waiting on you guys and nothing else of interest is happening in the meantime. The alternative is that Desp just outs whatever he's got (lest he die a death most unfortunate before the morrow) and we move on, and I'm actually very fine with that alternative if we just get to move on with our lives.

[hiplop]

almost like reads change or something

Yeah not like that, and not in 100 posts and no additional information.

You have completely 180'd your read on me because I'm scumreading you and buddying me obviously wasn't working.

i buddy'd you yesterday in partial jokingness. You're distinctly different than other times I've seen you play. That makes me think you're scum

Keep in mind during those 100 posts I caught up

[FakeGod]

Prodded notscience.

[Who]

Why are we mass-claiming?

Desperado thinks he can break the setup with a mass-claim.

I don't think it'll be fully breakable. Maybe partially.

Can you/Gaiden/NS state disagreement with the MC or just claim? We're waiting on you guys and nothing else of interest is happening in the meantime. The alternative is that Desp just outs whatever he's got (lest he die a death most unfortunate before the morrow) and we move on, and I'm actually very fine with that alternative if we just get to move on with our lives.

I disagree with a mass-claim. If we want to break the game, only those with roles which might help to break it should claim.

[borkjerfkin]

Desp are you able to do what you planned on doing sans massclaim? Because it doesn't look like we're gonna get it at the rate this is going.

[notscience]

Hi, Acknowledging my turn to massclaim but I need my role pm for flavor and I accidentally deleted it a few weeks ago. Will update as soon as I get it.

In terms for reads, I'm at-

bork-town because it sounds like Frozenbork

Majiffy-townlean but it's majffy so I'll probably waffle on this

Fitz- scum, I don't like his selectiveness regarding the lurkersheep (this is 100% OMGUS btw)

Brian- Townlean because lolmeta

pie- town because of claim

Gaiden- doesn't look like town gaiden but it's not like that's incriminating in and of itself >.>

[borkjerfkin]

Hi, Acknowledging my turn to massclaim but I need my role pm for flavor and I accidentally deleted it a few weeks ago. Will update as soon as I get it.

In terms for reads, I'm at-

bork-town because it sounds like Frozenbork

Majiffy-townlean but it's majffy so I'll probably waffle on this

Fitz- scum, I don't like his selectiveness regarding the lurkersheep (this is 100% OMGUS btw)

Brian- Townlean because lolmeta

pie- town because of claim

Gaiden- doesn't look like town gaiden but it's not like that's incriminating in and of itself >.>

I'm not impressed by this list (especially cause you didn't even mention wagon du jour of hiplop) but also because of the lack of any kind of effort or engagement.

I mean start even with your read on me - I was an innocent child in Frozen from like page 2 on and therefore had no need to demonstrate any modicum of transparency. You're really towning me cause of meta based on that?

[havingfitz]

Lol at notscience for me being the only scum. And he gets that wrong.

Also notscience...my suspicions of you aren't based on your lurky play. That's just a bonus in getting rid of you

[notscience]

I can see some thought process that was similar, and I don't think we have any other games together where you didn't get conftown by page 10

[Who]

Actually I've decided that I should claim my role, or at least part of it (I will neither confirm nor deny the existence of more than this). I'm still opposed to a mass-claim though.

Any attempted investigation of my alignment will fail. Looking back on things I should probably have claimed this day 1, but I sort of saw it like a miller and decided to just breadcrumb it.

[pieguyn]

aaaaaaaaaagh I promise I'll make a post either tomorrow or Thursday I still haven't had time for this

[Majiffy]

almost like reads change or something

Yeah not like that, and not in 100 posts and no additional information.

You have completely 180'd your read on me because I'm scumreading you and buddying me obviously wasn't working.

i buddy'd you yesterday in partial jokingness. You're distinctly different than other times I've seen you play. That makes me think you're scum

Keep in mind during those 100 posts I caught up

Then why don't you go ahead and enlighten the class?

[FakeGod]

Prodded Desperado.