Xenosaga Mafia (Game Over)

[pidgey]

yah but like, we are scuking at the moment.

[zMuffinMan]

well that entirely depends on whether or not mollie is scum. if she is, i'm doing pretty fucking stellar at the moment, so i dunno who the fuck this "we" you're referring to is.

if she isn't, then yeah sure, whatever. BUT THERE'S ONLY ONE WAY TO FIND OUT IF WE'RE SUCKING OR NOT.

[pirate mollie]

posture moar muffina

I am not the best orator. <---- this should not come as a surprise to any1. I think your whole sheeping LEMME BE CLEAR WITH THIS OMG OTHERWISE WE SPEND 12 PAGES OF NITPICKING FINE POINTS

[pirate mollie]

posture moar muffina

I am not the best orator. <---- this should not come as a surprise to any1. I think your whole sheeping LEMME BE CLEAR WITH THIS OMG OTHERWISE WE SPEND 12 PAGES OF NITPICKING FINE POINTS

FUCK THIS SHIT WHY DID THAT SUBMIT

AS WHAT I WAS SAYING

"NITPICKING FINE POINTS" in lieu of abdicating your votes screams to me manipulation of nacho, specifically, with a greater agenda in mind.

and that is all I have to say. for once.

cos sometimes it just feels pointless.

[zMuffinMan]

you realise that nacho outright told you that we made the same deal in the hydra game and that the only reason i didn't go through with it there is because you forced a lynch through on him

do you think i wouldn't have kept to the deal in the hydra game? or are you saying i was scum there, too?

also you realise they outright told you that i wasn't sheeping their reads, and was, in fact, trying to get them to change their vote when i disagreed with where it was - e.g. when ffery outright told you i almost convinced her to vote aegor except she didn't have a chance to speak with nacho before day ended

coz, you know, that would kinda counter your point about me abdicating anything

this isn't nitpicking anything. it's showing that you're blatantly wrong

[pirate mollie]

i don't think i was being at all antagonistic except when she had basically been proven to be wrong and still insisted she had a case

so yeah, i called her bad if she's actually town and didn't see the problem there

but i didn't antagonise her before she started going on and on about bullshit that (a) wasn't true, (b) she refused to back up, and (c) she refused to acknowledge was wrong after been shown exactly why it was wrong

I feel like you have been antagonistic since the start of the game. you ignored me. I thought I pointed it out a lot more than I did. so sue me

I don't like the way you had to work up to a scumread on me. like you had to work for it and I think it is because your poe list consisted of town and who the fuck is not ready to lynch mollie. only here is the thing, I think you know that I am not and easy lynch which explains the single focus and it gives you room to hide. I think this is why nked sangres cos you KNEW they would start looking elsewhere. they have all game and kept settling for compromise lynches but eventually they would have settled on YOU.

you are scum and with every breathe in my body I will keep screaming it from the rooftops!

[pirate mollie]

you realise that nacho outright told you that we made the same deal in the hydra game and that the only reason i didn't go through with it there is because you forced a lynch through on him

do you think i wouldn't have kept to the deal in the hydra game? or are you saying i was scum there, too?

also you realise they outright told you that i wasn't sheeping their reads, and was, in fact, trying to get them to change their vote when i disagreed with where it was - e.g. when ffery outright told you i almost convinced her to vote aegor except she didn't have a chance to speak with nacho before day ended

coz, you know, that would kinda counter your point about me abdicating anything

this isn't nitpicking anything. it's showing that you're blatantly wrong

there is so much I want to say

so much

[pirate mollie]

eta: it doesn't show that I am blatantly wrong. there is a lack of a thought process here which I cannot explain

[zMuffinMan]

you ignored me

quote one thing you said to me that i ignored

who the fuck is not ready to lynch mollie

pretty much the whole game didn't want to lynch you at the time

they have all game and kept settling for compromise lynches but eventually they would have settled on YOU.

what's this based on? because pretty much everything they said about me in thread indicates otherwise. did they change their tune in the neighbourhood QT or are you just talking out of your ass now?

[zMuffinMan]

also yes, it does actually show you are blatantly wrong, because the thing you're suggesting i'm scum for is something that i've done as town in the past, in a game that you were in and therefore have knowledge of even if nacho didn't tell you about it here

[pirate mollie]

1. reached out to you with my dumb town read! you were happy with it, it was only when it faltered that you even thought I was scum.
2. site meta. don't expect me to think you are so ignorant as to not know this or how much I am disliked!!! I think you took great pains to point it out or something.
3. cos I know those 2 players but sweet that this is what you do, "oh did they say this? huh? HUH? HUH????"

/whatevers

eta: here we go with the self-meta arguments. and I can't effectively argue against it. *sigh*

[zMuffinMan]

1. reached out to you with my dumb town read! you were happy with it, it was only when it faltered that you even thought I was scum.

you are lying about the time line here

. you were calling me town right up until the point that i called you scum, it was only after that that you started calling me scum. i have already pulled up the necessary quotes to prove this, i will go back and do it again if i need to

the reason i never commented on your town read on me is because i didn't give a shit about it? what the fuck was there to comment on?

2. site meta. don't expect me to think you are so ignorant as to not know this or how much I am disliked!!! I think you took great pains to point it out or something.

tbh, i have no idea how much you are liked or disliked by other players, i've played with you like 3 times prior to this game and it never seemed to be an issue in those games

3. cos I know those 2 players but sweet that this is what you do, "oh did they say this? huh? HUH? HUH????"

i ask because your argument is essentially, "sangres died and they would have eventually suspected you because ~magic~"

and since you responded like this, i am going to assume that it wasn't based on anything they said and is indeed based on ~magic~

here we go with the self-meta arguments. and I can't effectively argue against it. *sigh*

except it's not a self-meta argument.

you are literally suggesting that something that you know i've done as town is scummy because ~magic~

you can't effectively argue against it because it's a bullshit excuse for thinking i'm scum

[zMuffinMan]

actually i know you have something with ffery but that's about it

[pirate mollie]

I think what is frustrating you is that I don't really provide an argument that you can easily refute. you are nitpicking and I think you understand me enough as a player to know that I am not very adept at arguing against this.

3 games and you should know this about me amI wrong in assuming you are not retarded with your dancing moves?

I don't believe you I think you are full of it. it was a reach out

[zMuffinMan]

I don't really provide an argument that you can easily refute

. . . . .

[zMuffinMan]

if you calling me town was supposed to be a "reach out" and you had issues with me not responding to this so-called "reach out", why didn't you ever mention it?

also, since when do you "reach out" by calling someone town and nothing else?

[Iecerint]

Muffin, you were the one who felt strongly about Venmar town yesterday, correct?

[zMuffinMan]

maybe?

[zMuffinMan]

i don't remember if anyone else thought so

[zMuffinMan]

o sangres did kinda for a while but then changed their mind at the end of the day i guess

and maybe there was someone else but i don't remember

[Iecerint]

Also, are there any players who think Venmar is town?

me

Yeah, this is the exchange I was thinking of.

[Iecerint]

I don't really see a reason for you to read Venmar that way as scum (e.g., going out of your way to describe the context of something he said that I said I found scummy, etc).

Unvote

[ActionDan]

lalalalalala

[borkjerfkin]

Votecount 7.1

[1] pirate mollie (zMuffinMan)
[1] zMuffinMan (pirate mollie)

[5] Not Voting (ActionDan, pidgey, Iecerint, mastin2, Skullduggery)

With 7 alive, it is 4 to lynch.

Let me know if you see any problems.

Deadline is in (expired on 2014-04-10 22:30:00)

[pirate mollie]

if you calling me town was supposed to be a "reach out" and you had issues with me not responding to this so-called "reach out", why didn't you ever mention it?

also, since when do you "reach out" by calling someone town and nothing else?

I thought I did. that is why i was asking you why you were sheeping sangres. even if you dismiss your sheeping to some dumb thing I ask you this, will this be consistent in all games? I understand what is frustrating you but you are making no effort to understand what is frustrating me, which makes me think you are fucking scum.

I was overgamed when this 1 started and during most of the duration, that is why I chose to hydra with some1. my hydra partner flaked cos of understandable IRL stuff and I have been floundering a bit, which is what I do when I am overgamed and I don't have a hydra partner. <-------- go look at how many games I completed during this 1. this is all fucking verifiable.

I thought I said more than I did, I certainly made notes of it on my spreadsheet. when I asked you about your votes, that was me voicing suspicion of you cos it was standing out. I don't go rabid in all of my games believe it or not. I had a pretty solid townread on sangres especially after aegor flipped sk cos that was my only reservation about that slot was that might be an sk faction with danny.

speaking of danny,

DANNY WHY ARE YOU NOT DOING ANYTHING??? AS CLOSE TO CONFIRMED I WOULD EXPECT YOU TO BE TAKING A LEAD OR AT THE VERY LEAST WORK WITH YOUR TOWNREADS WHY ARE YOU NOT DOING THIS???

BACK TO MUFFINA. I am going to tell you the same thing I have told majiffy and thorella; I can't out argue you. I just know in my heart and in my gut that you are scum. and that is all I have to say really. even if you get me lynched today you still have tomorrow to deal with and I am banking on town hopefully

not

being retarded altho with the way that my recent games have been ending it is probably retarded to even have hope.