The Reckoning III (Math is Hard) Holy crap, perfect town win

[Sir Waffles Wafflington]

Okay then, hypothetically speaking. Why would you, as town, come into a game and assume a wagon on you is due to a claimed guilty?

because that's the only kind of wagon that goes this fast

I still don't understand why you would assume a guilty claim unless you were guilty?

[Antihero]

i thought eleven flipped scum

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VOTE: ~Jordan

it's red
i thought i was scum when i opened my role PM, too

[~Jordan`]

i thought eleven flipped scum

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VOTE: ~Jordan

i really don't have the time for this

[Antihero]

I still don't understand why you would assume a guilty claim unless you were guilty?

right, because no one ever fakes guilties

never

[Gammagooey]

>_>

<_<

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[Antihero]

i can already see why waffles is driving mollie apeshit berserko

[Ythan]

i thought eleven flipped scum

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VOTE: ~Jordan

I get it.

[Ythan]

i thought eleven flipped scum

UNVOTE: Your New Gay Overlords
VOTE: ~Jordan

i really don't have the time for this

Because you're so busy with all that

[Sir Waffles Wafflington]

...I kinda want to lynch cheery dog. I realize if he flips scum we're next, but I've been sitting here thinking about gammas message. Noones said anything about getting a message night one. It can't be someone informed or there would be hints of it yesterday, right? It can't be investigative because they'd say waffles and cheery dog are both town if that was the case and who's heard of an investigator that can send messages. It can't be an ask the mod something because then still the send messages thing.

And it's such an odd pair to put together. But we had a real chance of dying last night, so our town flip could have cleared cheery dog. It's just bugging me and I'd us get lynched to clear the message that way than someone else erroneously get cleared if it's a scum message.

IDK but it doesn't feel right.

[Sir Waffles Wafflington]

i can already see why waffles is driving mollie apeshit berserko

I know poor put upon mollie definitely didn't start anything.

[~Jordan`]

i thought eleven flipped scum

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VOTE: ~Jordan

i really don't have the time for this

Because you're so busy with all that

still falls flat
what happened to you, man?

[Magua]

Gammagooey is terrible at playing along. The chance of it working on Antihero was small, but better a small chance than no chance.

it's red
i thought i was scum when i opened my role PM, too

I'm quite aware. My initial-gut-reaction mod to the PMs upon receiving my role was to curse them for making me scum; then I actually *read* my role and sent another PM yelling at AP for reversing the colors (again).

So by the time I looked at the thread, I knew that red was town because I'd already gone through that whole thought process in regards to my role.

Jordan's post indicates that he didn't go through it after reading his role.

if that was the case and who's heard of an investigator that can send messages

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And it's such an odd pair to put together. But we had a real chance of dying last night, so our town flip could have cleared cheery dog. It's just bugging me and I'd us get lynched to clear the message that way than someone else erroneously get cleared if it's a scum message.

IDK but it doesn't feel right.

So if it doesn't feel right, what do you expect lynching Cheery to do (in either case)? Eg, you lynch Cheery, he flips scum, then what? You lynch Cheery, he flips town, then what?

[~Jordan`]

Jordan's post indicates that he didn't go through it after reading his role.

It's just that I haven't read my role pm in days.

[Ythan]

...I kinda want to lynch cheery dog. I realize if he flips scum we're next, but I've been sitting here thinking about gammas message. Noones said anything about getting a message night one. It can't be someone informed or there would be hints of it yesterday, right? It can't be investigative because they'd say waffles and cheery dog are both town if that was the case and who's heard of an investigator that can send messages. It can't be an ask the mod something because then still the send messages thing.

And it's such an odd pair to put together. But we had a real chance of dying last night, so our town flip could have cleared cheery dog. It's just bugging me and I'd us get lynched to clear the message that way than someone else erroneously get cleared if it's a scum message.

IDK but it doesn't feel right.

1 You're confident that nobody knew yesterday? wrt the hints part
2 Who's ever heard of a whatever I am though.

[Ythan]

i thought eleven flipped scum

UNVOTE: Your New Gay Overlords
VOTE: ~Jordan

i really don't have the time for this

Because you're so busy with all that

still falls flat
what happened to you, man?

I'm sorry I don't know who you are.

[~Jordan`]

Yeah. I get that a lot.

[~Jordan`]

I'm going to stop posting until I have a mission statement.

[Sir Waffles Wafflington]

Magua - Partially thinking out loud, partially would like to get others takes on it. Something doesn't feel right about it though.

I still don't understand why you would assume a guilty claim unless you were guilty?

right, because no one ever fakes guilties

never

Well, benmage isn't playing?

If you read from start of day, which you seem to have since you said that a couple people were like lynching antihero then, you would know there wasn't a guilty on you. I'm just trying to figure out why that would be your automatic assumption. (This head of this hydra has had you as a town read most of the game, I'm not trying to set you up, I'm trying to get at what you were thinking because that just seems an odd assumption to make at the start of day if you're town.)

[Antihero]

well, other than the flips, i don't know what's going on with the claims

someone said something about a messenger... and i think you said something about being a joat

i should probably make a list...

[Sir Waffles Wafflington]

...I kinda want to lynch cheery dog. I realize if he flips scum we're next, but I've been sitting here thinking about gammas message. Noones said anything about getting a message night one. It can't be someone informed or there would be hints of it yesterday, right? It can't be investigative because they'd say waffles and cheery dog are both town if that was the case and who's heard of an investigator that can send messages. It can't be an ask the mod something because then still the send messages thing.

And it's such an odd pair to put together. But we had a real chance of dying last night, so our town flip could have cleared cheery dog. It's just bugging me and I'd us get lynched to clear the message that way than someone else erroneously get cleared if it's a scum message.

IDK but it doesn't feel right.

1 You're confident that nobody knew yesterday? wrt the hints part
2 Who's ever heard of a whatever I am though.

I'm not confident of that, I just don't remember anyone trying to put cheery and us together yesterday. I don't have the thread memorized but it's not something that sticks out.

Right now I'm just thinking of the time that in marketplace II scum sent me a message trying to set up someone else and I'm thinking along those lines.

[Antihero]

(This head of this hydra has had you as a town read most of the game, I'm not trying to set you up, I'm trying to get at what you were thinking because that just seems an odd assumption to make at the start of day if you're town.)

you only hear the echo chamber of "oh i'm assuming player X is the lynch today" if player X has some kind of role-incriminating evidence on him

i didn't know if someone claimed something yesterday

[Sir Waffles Wafflington]

No, the scum that we lynched yesterday claimed a guilty on mollie though. I'm still suspicious that it was bussing, but other people think it's town.

[Ythan]

well, other than the flips, i don't know what's going on with the claims

someone said something about a messenger... and i think you said something about being a joat

i should probably make a list...

Keep posting, maybe we'll get to day 4 faster.

[Gammagooey]

...I kinda want to lynch cheery dog. I realize if he flips scum we're next, but I've been sitting here thinking about gammas message. Noones said anything about getting a message night one. It can't be someone informed or there would be hints of it yesterday, right? It can't be investigative because they'd say waffles and cheery dog are both town if that was the case and who's heard of an investigator that can send messages. It can't be an ask the mod something because then still the send messages thing.

And it's such an odd pair to put together. But we had a real chance of dying last night, so our town flip could have cleared cheery dog. It's just bugging me and I'd us get lynched to clear the message that way than someone else erroneously get cleared if it's a scum message.

IDK but it doesn't feel right.

considering that i know the message is from another player if the person is scum and wanted people to think cheery was town for a day or two they would just say that cheery is town. if you think he's scum anyway and then ignore the message and if enough people actually agree with you then he can get lynched unless whoever sent the message claims, but lynching him based on just 'there is a scary message about him and me' is pretty silly.
(personally he seems very slightly town to me after the eagle flip but i wouldn't be super surprised if he was scum. still probably not going to vote him today though.)

relevant claims are
ythan-vig
waffles-joat
gamma-person who got a message
iec-autohammerer

there have been other claims but they're not relevant right now so find them yourself if you want.

[Ythan]

Waffles sent the message and are attempting to get town Cheery lynched to clear themselves.

This is probably not true I just want to be able to quote it later when it is.