Xenosaga Mafia (Game Over)

[pirate mollie]

Prod dodging, planning to spent serious time with this game in the weekend.

when?

muffina I know you know why i think you are scum.

this is an olive branch, take it and we will talk

[zMuffinMan]

i don't actually know

you've said stuff, but none of it makes sense

[zMuffinMan]

summary of your points:

- i sheeped nacho's vote - you know this is based on a promise i've made before as town, so i could be town, or i could be scum doing something i've done as town, either way, you know that at the very least it's not alignment-indicative and therefore not a good reason for thinking i'm scum
- i sheeped sangres's thoughts on people - i know this to be wrong, they told you this is wrong, i asked you to provide examples, but you never did
- i had to "work up" a scum read on you - i don't really know what this means but i'm pretty sure it's wrong
- i initially suspected you because of poe - right, but again, something i do as town quite often (and i'm not really sure i've ever done this as scum, maybe i have, dunno)

i think i'm maybe forgetting something

[zMuffinMan]

oh right,

- sangres died - you think i did this because i was worried about them changing their read on me, despite no indication that was going to happen
- i ignored you - i responded every time you directed a question to me, your claim that i ignored you is because i didn't respond to you calling me town?

[pirate mollie]

1. I already addressed this
2. I said you sheeped them I didn't clarify whether or not you sheeped their reads. that you jumped all over it is what made me sus of you.
3. you totally did
4. .........
5. no, I think you did it to remove a player who perceived me as town.
6. I already addressed this

it is up to you if you want to take the olive branch. right now I am wondering about mastina but I do not like skull's opportunism at all. and I HATE pidgey's posts in this day round.

if you happen to be town and I am wrong in my read on you the least you can do is help me work things out

[zMuffinMan]

actually, you specifically did say i sheeped their views on people (that was what sangres told you that you're wrong about so it's obviously not something i made up)

and i don't think they perceived you as town. nacho did but ffery didn't, as far as i can tell, and considering they had their vote on you for a while yesterday, that point doesn't make sense

i don't particularly care about this "olive branch" you're extending to me. IF you have stuff you want to talk about in regards to other players, then i will respond to it like i'm pretending i think you're town, but i'm not going to drop a read on you because you want me to

i see pidgey and mastin posting nothing of value, and i don't like it, but *shrug*

skull i don't really see as scum, and i don't see the opportunism. what votes from him would you consider

not

opportunistic?

[zMuffinMan]

(i think you're throwing the word "opportunism" around like it has some meaning here, when it really doesn't - because regardless of whether he votes you, mastin, pidgey or me, it could be called "opportunistic" so i don't see the relevance)

[Skullduggery]

Yeah, I'm starting to get a little uneasy about Pidgey too. Lots of empty promises for content, one-sentence fluff posts, and very few solid reads. Brian and Gooner Towned up that slot super hard, though, so I'm not sure what to think about him right now.

I kinda think it's skull more than mollie

Is this just a PoE thing or do I need to rehash all the reasons why it makes no sense for me to be Scum?

I do not like skull's opportunism at all.

I would ask you to point out where I've been opportunistic, but I know you won't because you can't.

[pidgey]

I keep going through the game but i just dont really have any solid reads from anyone as scum lol sorry that im doing "empty" promises but as much as i glance scum isos i dont really make much of anything.

I seem to find a great town alibi for everyone.

Like lately i thought it might be mastin but then i find in cephir's iso that it was his biggest "scum read" so that would be some major bussing so im like UGH

I still think muffin, mollie, and skull are town. Icerint has the jailkeeper alibi, and action dan was tracked or something, so yeah, everyone seems town.

Im honestly surprised im not getting more pressure since im like the only one who has no town alibi and im playing really shitty lol

By this point im leaning mastin honestly, what are opinions on mastin?

[pidgey]

Im not terribly opposed to a mollie lynch though

not skull lynch though

[Skullduggery]

Im honestly surprised im not getting more pressure since im like the only one who has no town alibi and im playing really shitty lol

If we lynch Mollie or Mastin or whoever today and they flip Town, you and I are going to have a nice long talk in the neighborhood tonight.

If you're Town, then you should have nothing to worry about. But if you're Scum? Well, if you're Scum, then I'm going to figure it out and you'll be left with only two choice: either you kill me tonight or you resign yourself to being lynched tomorrow, because I

will

make sure you get lynched tomorrow. Consider that a promise.

But, of course, we don't even have to worry about any of this because we're going to lynch the last Scum player today, right?

[zMuffinMan]

i don't really have time for this atm but tomorrow some time (after sleep) i was planning to take something that would make me feel really numb and then attempt to... or force myself to... read mastin's ISO

[zMuffinMan]

i mean, basically i just wanna feel half-dead if i'm going to attempt it

or at the very least i need to strap my arms down to something so i don't try to claw my eyes out with my bare hands

[Skullduggery]

On a scale of one to ten, how likely is it that reading Mastin's ISO will make you change your mind about your vote on Mollie?

[zMuffinMan]

that would entirely depend on what i see

if

when i read it, no?

[borkjerfkin]

Votecount 7.4

[2] pirate mollie (zMuffinMan, Skullduggery)
[1] zMuffinMan (pirate mollie)

[4] Not Voting (ActionDan, pidgey, Iecerint, mastin2)

With 7 alive, it is 4 to lynch.

Let me know if you see any problems.

Deadline is in (expired on 2014-04-10 22:30:00)

[Skullduggery]

Fair point, I suppose. I just think it's a bit weird for you to shift gears this close to the deadline when you seem to have been so certain of Mollie-Scum for so long. Did she do something to make you second-guess that stance?

Also,

@Bork:

My vote is still on Mollie.

[zMuffinMan]

I just think it's a bit weird for you to shift gears this close to the deadline when you seem to have been so certain of Mollie-Scum for so long

it's a courtesy thing more than anything. consider it me observing the olive branch rather than taking it

[ActionDan]

gonna work on this today

[borkjerfkin]

mastin2, Iecerint were prodded.

[pidgey]

Ok so im isoing the mastin's iso and its the pain that I thought it would be

Im still going through D1 and most of the scum reads im getting out of it are weak reads. She says on 2 possible scum teams mates "scummish" at one point and another one "town".

The gets into a discussion with super scumbo bitch cephir, which reads to be very well thought of if it was a bus, and this is the main point im feeling against mastin scum. Do i think mastin can't pull if off? Of course not, she is capable of it. But ugh, would the scum team have the guts with flandre being lynched d1? I dunno.

But then, i get a jewel like mastin and MafiaSSK's interaction:

Hey Mastin and I's reads are syncing! This is a good sign!

Which mastin said exactly the same to me at the point i did my first post regarding reads. Dunno, just rang all kind of bad bells to me.

Still reading the iso, and i dont feel as bad as when I started reading it. All the interactions with the flipped scum look spontaneous and legit really, and very pressurish.

Plus, there are instances from when i've read the first part of the game where i see mollie doing some posts that strike we wrong, as if trying to seed doubts regarding other players without mollie herself putting it all out there.

Ugh i dunno, i hate myself. Still reading.

[pidgey]

Also im kinda starting to think that the possibility of a 2 man scum team is real and that we shouldnt just let that slide just yet, neither give people a free pass.

[pidgey]

DAY 1 LYNCH
[11] Flandre Scarlet (sangres, Cephrir, Angry Frat Bros, ActionDan, Aegor, Skullduggery, orcinus_theoriginal, pieguyn, Varsoon, Gooner, macmollie)
[3] Kagami (Kazekirimaru, Venmar, Flandre Scarlet)
[2] Cephrir (Kagami, mastin2)
[2] zMuffinMan (Metal Sonic, MafiaSSK)
[1] Cabd (zMuffinMan)
[1] Not Voting (Cabd)

DAY 2 LYNCH
[10] Kagami (Angry Frat Bros, Venmar, mastin2, Metal Sonic, Cephrir, Kazekirimaru, macmollie, pieguyn, Aegor, ActionDan)
[1] Kazekirimaru (Kagami)
[1] Skullduggery (sangres)
[6] Not Voting (Gooner, Cabd, MafiaSSK, orcinus_theoriginal, Skullduggery, zMuffinMan)

DAY 3 LYNCH
[8] MafiaSSK (ActionDan, Gooner, Cephrir, Aegor, sangres, zMuffinMan, Kazekirimaru, Skullduggery)
[3] Metal Sonic (mastin2, Venmar, Angry Frat BROs)
[1] mastin2 (macmollie)
[3] Not Voting (MafiaSSK, Metal Sonic, orcinus_theoriginal)

DAY 4 LYNCH
[7] Aegor (Angry Frat Bros, pirate mollie, mastin2, Metal Sonic, Skullduggery, Aegor, Kazekirimaru)
[3] Skullduggery (sangres, ActionDan, zMuffinMan)
[1] pirate mollie (Gooner)
[2] Not Voting (orcinus_theoriginal, Venmar)

DAY 5 LYNCH
[6] Metal Sonic (Venmar, Kazekirimaru, pidgey, ActionDan, Skullduggery, mastin2)
[2] pidgey (sangres, zMuffinMan)
[2] Venmar (Metal Sonic, orcinus_theoriginal)
[1] zMuffinMan (pirate mollie)

DAY 6 LYNCH
[5] Venmar (mastin2, pidgey, Skullduggery, sangres, Iecerint)
[1] pirate mollie (ActionDan)
[1] Skullduggery (Venmar)
[2] Not Voting (pirate mollie, zMuffinMan)

I probably do not like mcmollie and skullduggery the least regarding lynches that have happened.

[pidgey]

I'll come back to this game later my head hurts + work

[zMuffinMan]

Ok so im isoing the mastin's iso and its the pain that I thought it would be

i feel it

mastin's ISO is like cinnamon

small amounts of it are fine, some people like it, some people don't. whatever. but when you try to take the cinnamon challenge, you're gonna end up coughing and spluttering and spewing up your internal organs all over the place - it's not a pretty sight and i wouldn't recommend it