Tales of You (Endgame)

[The Fox and the Hound]

I'm not DV, but somewhere far short of pleased. Especially given that it sounds like DV's past experience with you resembles my own. I fully expect to hear you give me some shit about Ice and Fire here, but the fact is that you've never been wrong about me when we've both been town, so this is really not working for me. This is a strong playerlist, and one in which scumcho would be pretty short on easy mislynches. Meanwhile, you know that I am an easy mislynch without someone to whiteknight me, and you are supposed to be that someone. Once again I find myself thinking of Open 527, where you scumread me for vague reasons and guess what, they were bull.

Look.

I'm not Nacho and you're not DV, but how are you not taking Nacho's post as anything besides a reachout/pressure to get a read? Because that is pretty transparently what it is.
You said "bulder (fucking really? did you just read vesperia where orc did that on purpose?) looked town". There's a pretty good reason for that - I am town and I'm really easy to read (as stated by plenty of others around the thread).

I'm curious: should others be hard townreading you at this point in the game, in your opinion?

-b

I guess it could be that...
DV and I have been all over a rabbit hole, into and out of it and all around, since we saw those posts, between "maybe we're stoking each other's paranoia fires too much and we're just going insane" to "what if we're right? No one else will ever see it". You are right that I shouldn't throw my read on you out the door. I suppose that was kind of unfair... And given that ffery thinks you're town and I think there's a pretty decent chance she's town, and I know perfectly well she's more qualified to handle your slot than I am, maybe if I was smart I would sheep her. But I don't really do that.
I'm not used to being reached out to, I'm used to no one caring about my opinion, so I guess that could be something I'd miss... I guess I should stop losing my head at least until we get clarification.

Should others be hard townreading me yet? Probably not, speaking for myself at least. It makes sense to me that there would be a lot of hesitance to trust me, and I'm not surprised about that. The actual scumreads I was not expecting, and they do put me on edge. I still have a mafia-victim-complex from my lynchbait days, even though it's becoming less justified. I feel reasonably good about my ability to demonstrate I'm town, but the possibility of not getting that chance scares me.

[Kagura]

Should others be hard townreading me yet? Probably not, speaking for myself at least.

I get the pathos stuff - this is actually pretty much exactly how I feel when more than a few people in a game fuck up their read on me.

But you don't really seem concerned with most of the playerlist, emotionally (or at least you weren't until Nacho did it).
Why is the Nacho read on you such a special case to you?

-b

[Yulia Jue]

God damn you folks just won't let me get a pagetop.

Also, ElementalHawk has requested replacement.

[PeregrineV]

Bottom of page 8.


Just a heads up to all the self-proclaimed obvtown players- saying it means nothing to me.Even if I see it, it means nothing, so saying it almost means less than nothing.

Reading continuing, but I hope all that crap is out of the way. If not, know that I'll be ignoring it.

[The Fox and the Hound]

Should others be hard townreading me yet? Probably not, speaking for myself at least.

I get the pathos stuff - this is actually pretty much exactly how I feel when more than a few people in a game fuck up their read on me.

But you don't really seem concerned with most of the playerlist, emotionally (or at least you weren't until Nacho did it).
Why is the Nacho read on you such a special case to you?

-b

History. We were scumbuddies in one of my first games back on the site, and since then that insight into my scum thought process, he's been pretty good at reading me. There was a time I would have said perfect Sometimes it takes him a couple days to figure out that I'm scum when I am, but he

always

usually figures it out, and when I'm town he knows it. It started as being one of the few who understands how I work in terms of natural inclinations (at a basic level, I'm unconfident and wishy-washy as town, and superconfident and aggressive as scum). I've improved from that open-book baseline as both alignments, but the point remains, my default expectation is to be whiteknighted regardless of his alignment (and I literally always need it day 1), and he has only ever scumread me incorrectly when he was scum, or (once) very briefly. There is most definitely more emotion attached to that read for me than that of anyone else who's expressing serious suspicion of me. And quite possibly anyone else at all.

[PeregrineV]

PeregrineV: Some people pointed out his OP as scummy, even questioning him on basis of "do you even know RVS is over?" It is an easy way to get into the game with that kind of OP. However, what if Peregrine legitimately did not even read the thread? What if he was just informing us that he was going to catch up and decided to post that hastily (because he doesn't have time to look back over multiple pages of posts)? When Peregrine was making the post, he simply did not know RVS was over and was under the assumption that it was still going on (it's Day 1 with one day barely passing; you don't expect much progress that early).

5 pages is easily in RVS range, and I kind of really like my RVS vote, it's like the last chance to play before work begins. But, when I started, I just really didn't feel like it.
And no, read nothing before that post. And pretty much nothing until now.

[Cabd]

Will make fancy with my much delayed votecount in the morning, but AngryPidgeon replaces elementalhawk effective immediately.

[AngryPidgeon]

Hi guys. Theres not even a role PM in my inbox, he just skyped me it lol cause cabd is too mia for his own good.

I'm replacing this lurkscum. I could read these 40 pages, cough of some faked scumreads, and vote townies, but I'd really just cut to the latter part of that? If someone could point me to a wagon on a townie that I could hop on and get this mafia win secured, that'd be great.

You town mastin? I can smell the fear on you, just surrender now, are you mafia?

I'm bulletproof. Just kidding, I'm a lyncher for mastinSSK¹.

VOTE: Cabd.

Vote: Cabd

FoS: The mod

VOTE: MastinSSK
Because they're probably scum, and even if they're not, I'm going to end up thinking they are, anyway.

1. BULLETPROOF lyncher for mastinSSK

[AngryPidgeon]

but I'd really just

I'd really rather, scumslipping already

SOMEONE TL;DR 40 PAGES WHILE I PLAY LEAGUE

[Red Gyarados]

(Us, Titan, Kagura, MastinSSK)
(Beliffery, CF, RBD)

(Town)
(Not full town yet)

There's your TL;DR

[PeregrineV]

Peregrine, did you catch up? What are your thoughts?

-FT

My thoughts right now are a skim would be more effective than a read.

And I'm avoiding middle of the night grocery shopping.

Please tell me the thread gets better...

[PeregrineV]

Did you seriously just post the player list?

Yes. It's easier for me to keep track of who's who.

[PeregrineV]

I am sooooo happy Pere finally popped in and posted the player list and did absolutely nothing else. I'm also looking forward to the fact that he probably won't do anything all weekend long because it's the weekend! Maybe Monday, he'll repost the player list for us again. I was really wondering how I would know who was playing, so glad he's on top of that!

Close, Tuesday!

And no, just normal crap posting.

[PeregrineV]

Hey cupcake, if you're not going to do anything, the proper procedure is to POST THE PLAYER LIST WHEN YOU POP IN!!!

KAY

Player Roster:
1 Kagura (borkjerfkin + nachomamma8) - SCUM
2 The Fox and the Hound (cephrir and DV) - SCUM
3 Yukari Yakumo - SCUM
4 orcinus_theoriginal - SCUM
5 Titan (Tammy + Sir Arthur Dane) - NICE
6 Rancid Broderick Drake (zmuffinman and natirasha) - SCUM
7 MastinSSK (Mastin2, MafiaSSK) - SCUM
8 Breakfast With Stalin (Hydra of ffery and beli) - SCUM
9 ElementalHawk (Prohawk+3dicerolling) - SCUM
10 Carbon Fiber (FourTrouble and F16) - SCUM
11 Lord Business - SCUM
12 Just Sheep Us (Broseidon and Desperado) - SCUM
13 Red Gyarados (Brian Skies and notscience) - SCUM
14 Cupcake Panda - CUPCAKE
15 PeregrineV - SCUM
16 Clyton - SCUM
17 Mac - SCUM

AMIDOIN DIS RITE?

I doubt it. Last game I made like that didn't go over well.

[AngryPidgeon]

There's your TL;DR

[AngryPidgeon]

I am sooooo happy Pere finally popped in and posted the player list and did absolutely nothing else. I'm also looking forward to the fact that he probably won't do anything all weekend long because it's the weekend! Maybe Monday, he'll repost the player list for us again. I was really wondering how I would know who was playing, so glad he's on top of that!

Lol this is town.

[AngryPidgeon]

So I set off to ISO MastinSSK for starters.

Hi all.

Rancid Broderick Drake is beyond obviously scum or at worst anti-town. We can already see this through a plethora of traits.

First off. the username.

Look at the word Rancid. It has a negative connotation. But why exactly? I like cheese, let's use cheese. If there was rancid cheese, what would you do? Toss it out. Because it's bad.
Case and point right there.

But it gets worse. We can look at Broderick as being another main indicator of how much they are anti-town. For Broderick consists of two parts "Bro" and "Derick". Now I don't know who Derick is but they are buddying to him as much as they possibly can from the get go! We should all look forward to this Derick as the sake of town and only see the sheeping, buddying anti-town nature of RBD.

But then Drake. Drakes aren't cool anymore. Why use that in a username? That's reason enough to vote them right now.

But if you can't see any of that, here's a couple of actually realistic predictions for how this game is going to go for these guys:

Nat and MuffinZ are going to self-vote in the very first post. But they're not going to do so in a traditional way.
No. The amount of synergy that they have will lead to an aggression. They are going to be questioning everyone. But they're never going to actually vote. They're never going to actually give real reasons for any votes they have. And they're going to get away with it because they're aggressive and because they're charismatic.

For all of these reasons, I can see nothing but a firm Day 1 lynch of
VOTE: Rancid Broderick Drake

Works for me. Who are you guys voting?

Oh me. Thats hawkward. GET IT. I replaced the HAWK.

[AngryPidgeon]

Someone talk to me so I can justify not reading all these pages.

[AngryPidgeon]

Hey uh mastin. Your vote on me sucks. Whats up with that?

[orcinus_theoriginal]

You're unloved

[orcinus_theoriginal]

Also cephrir wagon is all the rage. Check it out!

[AngryPidgeon]

VOTE: Cephrir
Now THIS is a scummy wagon vote.

[AngryPidgeon]

VOTE: The Fox n Hound
even

[PeregrineV]

Done. Back later today at work.

[PeregrineV]

@AP- you got scum, eh?