Tales of You (Endgame)

[The Fox and the Hound]

One of these things does not follow from the other

You thought they were scum. You voted them because you thought this. GIF asked why people thought this. And you answered with that. Which is a load of shit.

I kinda wanted to hear from RBD why Elemental/AP is scum.

I'll get to it soon

we thought they might be scum

now, we don't think they are scum

it's almost as though something really drastic changed in the interim

[Natirasha]

MastinSSK, I mean this in the nicest way possible, but we make haggis today, then hunt the larger game tomorrow. Please.

-muffin

[Rancid Broderick Drake]

Also #1225 is a good starting place for why I think AP is scum, but the whole exchange with mastin was bad.

Anyway, getting to it soon.

[Just Sheep Us]

Hey BRO

Just so we're clear

You think we claimed Hated Miller Gladiator out the gate because... we're scum who decided claiming an extremely negative utility role that was easily provable was a gooooooooood idea because... DERP DERP DERP I'M BRO AND I'M HOPING NOBODY THINKS ABOUT THIS AND THIS MISLYNCH GOES THROUGH WITHOUT ME LOOKING OBVSCUM

Wait you're also hated?

Ugh you short-circuited my brain.

Also scum-gladiator claiming gladiator's completely fine. Scum claiming miller is a thing that's done. The hated part fucks with it, though.

[Rancid Broderick Drake]

we thought they might be scum

now, we don't think they are scum

it's almost as though something really drastic changed in the interim

You cannot be this dense

Regardless
of
whether
your
read
changed
the
initial
reasons
for
the
read
still
stand

Your read changed AFTER AP replaced in. Which means it had nothing to do with the ElementalHawk hydra, and since GIF specifically asked why people thought the ElementalHawk hydra was scum (given he claims he was townreading 3dice's posts), your bullshit answer doesn't apply here

[Rancid Broderick Drake]

Also why do you even think AP is town, foxhound? Respond to #1225 please.

[Rancid Broderick Drake]

1226 even.

[Just Sheep Us]

HEY MUFFIN.

AP USED THAT EXACT ENTRANCE, NEARLY VERBATIM, IN A GAME WHERE HE WAS TOWN. AND WHERE MASTIN WAS SCUM AND PUSHED HIM FOR IT.

SO TELL ME MORE ABOUT HOW IT'S "NOT A TOWN ENTRANCE"

So tell me this,

You see someone post something they've done as town before, "nearly Verbatim," and you think that points to them being town?

You know what I do when I'm scum? Try to fucking imitate my town game. You know what I don't do when I'm town? Repeat the same boring entrances I've done in another game and then criticise people who aren't reading me as town because of it when it's something that's easily fucking faked.

This is really simple stuff, and part of the reason you're obvscum is because town-you would know how fucking basic this is.

But instead you don't give a shit.

Because you're scum.

Never addressed this.

Why are you treating the entrance as a scummy instead of null if you think it's meta manipulation?

[Just Sheep Us]

Fuck it, I need to go do my translation theory homework.

I hope by the time I come back mastin/RBD's begging to be lynched so I don't have to deal with their dumbfucktarded bullshit.

[CupcakePanda]

1. I don’t tolerate ad hom wars

Please keep it relevant to the game, folks.

Then tell the scum to stop abusing my anger issues.

[Rancid Broderick Drake]

Because not only is he trying to pass it off as an "obvtown" entrance (because he knows he's done it as town before, but he also isn't stupid enough to realise it's something he could fake as scum, so it's not a fucking obvtown entrance, and him calling it obvtown is because he's hoping people draw the parallels and call it obvtown because he's done it as town before) but I think it's an entrance he specifically did as scum trying to imitate his town game because I already thought the fucking slot was scum prior the the replacement.

[CupcakePanda]

Hey BRO go read this game while you calm yourself down.

http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=56&t=15946

[Rancid Broderick Drake]

Like did you even fucking read the back and forth between AP and mastin?

He's calling his own entrance obvtown

When it's so easily fucking fakeable as scum that it's not funny

Because, as you said, it's just a fucking nearly verbatim imitation of an entrance he's done as town before. He knows people in this game know he's done it as town before. It's not a fucking difficult thing to do as scum. But he calls it obvtown and he's hoping people look at it and think he's town because he's done it as town before.

It's the exact fucking move he'd pull here as scum, and the way he interacted with Mastin after it is further evidence of this

[Rancid Broderick Drake]

MastinSSK, I mean this in the nicest way possible, but we make haggis today, then hunt the larger game tomorrow. Please.

-muffin

he wants you to stop posting because it crushes his spirit having to read back and forth walls of bullshit that leads nowhere

i, on the other hand, love wall wars, so when i get home im going to make this game a fucking nightmare if they're labouring under the illusion it's actually possible to lynch us here

-Nati

And I'm quoted these posts,
So our dear mod, Cabd
Remains happy with us
... ... ... What the fuck rhymes with Cabd? Kebab'd?

[MastinSSK]

arrogance.

Hey, kettle? You're black.

The difference is? I recognize the arrogance. And try to keep it under control.
If BROseidon is actually town this game?

He hasn't.

I owe him no apologies if he's town, though I'm increasingly convinced that I will because he's

actually

scum.

Someone tell me why ElementalHawk is scum.
3dice's posts were pretty town to me?

All of them looked incredibly faked. Artificial. Convenient, manipulative, and not making sense coming from town. But more than that, AP's just painfully obvious scum.

You can't overlook the fact that multiple people are scum reading the same person, and we can't all be scum.

Given who's pushing the RBD wagon?

Yes. You can.

Why don't you go run more towns into the ground with StrangerCoug-esque lynches. Sounds like a great plan!

Let's see...who mislynched me, then Molla, and had Majiffy as scum and townread both Jake and Titus? Oh, yeah. You did. (Who here had Jake and Titus near the top of their scumlist? Oh, yeah. I did.) What day was the SC mistake? Oh, yeah, D1. What days were the mistakes on me and Molla? Oh, yeah. D3 and D4. Who here had their reads change and tried to figure things out? Oh, yeah, I did. Who here never changed his scumread until that player died? Oh, yeah, you did. So let's see. Who truly ran the town into the ground that game?

As I said. If town? Same. fucking. mistake.

[Rancid Broderick Drake]

Rehabed?

[Rancid Broderick Drake]

Seriously, what rhymes with Cabd?

[Yukari Yakumo]

All of them looked incredibly faked. Artificial. Convenient, manipulative, and not making sense coming from town.

I disagree.
His #478 was very transparent and town. What exactly was it articifial and convenient?

[MastinSSK]

Nabbed.
Grabbed.
(Loosely) Lad.

[Cabd]

Seriously, what rhymes with Cabd?

Blabbed.

[Rancid Broderick Drake]

How did I not think of those?

[Yukari Yakumo]

Also why am I getting "because AP is scum" when I asked for "why is EH scum"
:/

[The Fox and the Hound]

I don't think repeating something like that is telling in any way, shape or form. I am not giving points for calling oneself obvtown, although it can be done correctly.

It amuses me that apparently I have to have reasons for things and you don't. And Mastin doesn't even have to pretend to have any!
But I'll humor you since DV apparently doesn't think you're both scum. I've gotten pretty good gut feelings, but if I have to try explaining them. The interactions with mastin expressed a lot of the exact same frustrations I've been feeling with them the whole game but that I haven't really put into so many words.( In no small part because I was trying to give space knowing that I'm always going to think mastin is scum. But I just cannot do it, apparently.) There's the treating mastin as town bit, which I don't think I could honestly maintain even if I believed it when someone was making as incredibly shitty a case on me as that one. The mini reach to me in 1113 was a nice little bit of morale that doesn't do much in the way of scum motivation and gave me a little more energy to not just give up, though at this point I probably would again if I wasn't upset.

I'm sleep deprived as all hell right now and I need to sleep. Maybe DV will feel like dealing with this bullshit but I wouldn't blame him if he didn't

[The Fox and the Hound]

Like did you even fucking read the back and forth between AP and mastin?

He's calling his own entrance obvtown

When it's so easily fucking fakeable as scum that it's not funny

Because, as you said, it's just a fucking nearly verbatim imitation of an entrance he's done as town before. He knows people in this game know he's done it as town before. It's not a fucking difficult thing to do as scum. But he calls it obvtown and he's hoping people look at it and think he's town because he's done it as town before.

It's the exact fucking move he'd pull here as scum, and the way he interacted with Mastin after it is further evidence of this

I absolutely read it, and the whole thing had me feeling like I'd want to strangle mastin if I were in his shoes.

I don't know why you are so hung up on the entrance.

[The Fox and the Hound]

arrogance.

Hey, kettle? You're black.

The difference is? I recognize the arrogance. And try to keep it under control.

You don't. You like to talk about it, and it almost becomes it own fucking meta-arrogance. And you think pretending to acknowledge it counts for anything while you keep insisting you are infallible. And I have always and will always read massive unjustified overconfidence as scum because that is literally the definition of me scum.

Bad night, hope you get lynched while I'm asleep