NY 172: Another Large Normal (GAME OVER)

[Yates]

@Mod - Please remove me from V/LA. Thanks for your patience!

[Yates]

Also, Mastin's post seemed more townish than scummish to me when I looked through them. Why are some people voting him?

Exactly this: VVV

prob 'cause he's posting it up in MD and cares more about winning prof. mafia than helping find scum.

Once I realized Mastin not only

didn't

site flake but was actually posting like crazy in another game? Screw that.

[Egg]

That and he was townreading me for being the same as last game and I hadn't done anything yet. This came right after AP wondered why I wasn't the same in both games. It's a lazy non-genuine read which is not at all like town Mastin.

[4nxi3ty]

unvote, vote: mastin

won't be around for deadline
vote stays here

[projectmatt]

Since you question my legitimacy and that I'm highly recommended to vote someone from the 3, I believe it will be you Matt.

VOTE:

Oh my gosh lmao

You're mafia

TheWayItEnds, the only reason I would be willing to vote you for self preservation is because I don't have a strong townread on you. However, you are def not my first choice which is why I am not voting you. I actually TR your reaction to me saying I would vote you, actually.

Vote: AngryPidgeon

[Snork]

VOTE: mastin

The other wagons are meh.

[mastin2]

I also really liked the comment about "the 2 off the wagons because RachMarie said so". When the wagons were almost ENTIRELY split in half the playerlist, AND were both on town, you cannot use that kind of dumb logic to scumhunt... by some kind of arbitrary fucking formula.

I meant it when I said RM is blacklisted. I hope someone fucking shoots her. I want her out of this game regardless of her alignment. She's a fucking liability.

VOTE: Snork.

This is not town ranting.

Wondering about a Snork-PA-TWIE-4nxi3ty scumteam.

[mastin2]

Unvote, Vote Penguin

Can we really make this happen?

Sure. But that would be breaking my mold of saving her for the lylo mislych.
(Serious answer: She's not really that strong of a scumread. I can see her as scum or as town, in about equal likelihood; interactions are the only thing pushing her into scum.)

Why would it be so odd for mastin to read you as town if you are?

It's not. My relationship with AP is...complicated. But what AP was referring to is the lack of paranoia, which is unusual coming from a town me. Generally, town-us are paranoid of one another but still get a correct read ultimately. Which has happened, more or less, 'cause AP's town and I know he's going to call me town.

[Egg]

I also really liked the comment about "the 2 off the wagons because RachMarie said so". When the wagons were almost ENTIRELY split in half the playerlist, AND were both on town, you cannot use that kind of dumb logic to scumhunt... by some kind of arbitrary fucking formula.

I meant it when I said RM is blacklisted. I hope someone fucking shoots her. I want her out of this game regardless of her alignment. She's a fucking liability.

VOTE: Snork.

This is not town ranting.

Wondering about a Snork-PA-TWIE-4nxi3ty scumteam.

Yes it is.

[mastin2]

Pere, I agree that if anyone has a null red on Mastin they should say why. I can't see the kind of null where they just can't pull any info out of his posts. What I could see is someone wavering in their read.

I agree, as my own read on her is wavering. Her initial posting seemed like scum-Mastin to a T. Only the last few posts have given me any town feelings.

Not this post specifically, but general area around here, PV's very strongly town.

Top Wagons
TheWayItEnds [4 votes] (DeasVail, mastin2, PeregrineV, Damon_Gant)
ThAdmiral [3 votes] (SnowStorm, RachMarie, Nero Cain)
projectmatt [3 votes] (4nxi3ty, penguin_alien, Egg)

Holy shit that matt wagon sucks.

Matt's town. Never lynch him.

ThAd's also town, even though the only possible scum name I see on there is SnowStorm and I don't think he's scum.

But I do really like the TWIE wagon.

So I guess I can go back there.

VOTE: TWIE.

[mastin2]

Snork, AP said projectmatt was lurking, giving town reads, and going back to lurking in response to my noticing projectmatt lacking scum reads. Nero didn't like my trusting that AP was telling the truth about that without researching it on my own. So I asked Nero if AP was lying.

And I'm actually kind of thinking Nero is right about Six, but I'd rather lynch mafia than find out right now.

Preview edit:
Yeah looking for town more than scum is fine. But even if that is what you are doing, you need to call someone scum at some point too. Not doing so just seems like scum wanting to fly under the radar and not step on toes.

And I might actually be changing my mind on Six from when I started this post. I might be ok with lynching him sooner rather than later.

Preview edit again:
Rach, don't worry about it yet. Trust me. Please.

Egg's posting here is looking worse and worse.

I am town JOAT no friggen way would we have TWO town JOATs.

Rach, trust me. He's town. You're town. Let's not get distracted on townVtown and instead focus on lynching scum.

Anyway. I'm going to be late for work if I post anymore, so I'll continue from page 100.
Egg's posting on Six seems opportunistic, though.

[Egg]

Mastin, I was holding on to the secret that I saw Rach crumb JOAT.

[SiX]

Mastin, I was holding on to the secret that I saw Rach crumb JOAT.

Yea, since why would you reveal it openly? That would be anti-town so don't even try to use that as an excuese.

[Egg]

Um. Ok. I think you are making my point for me and trying to use it against me at the same time. I think maybe you didn't understand what I was saying.

[Nero Cain]

hey Matt, if you were willing to join the TWIE wagon to save yourself why not the Mastin wagon?

[RachMarie]

VOTE: Mastin

Will be willing to switch before deadline if needed to get a lynch done. Even if I have to do it on my kindle and I HATE posting on my kindle in mafia because its very limited in what I can do with it and I am constantly having to zoom it back up to 175% so I can see it because unlike my computer it will not stay zoomed at 175%

To everyone (but Snork since I know he hates this) I ended up in the ER and have Cellulitis and I have to keep my feet up and can't spend a lot of time on the computer. But with the deadline so close I will check on my kindle.

[TheWayItEnds]

Mastin wagon sucks way less than the matt wagon.

Unvote, Vote Mastin

[Yates]

All aboard the mastin train. Choo! Choo!

[Egg]

That's L-2 with deadline 16 hours away.

[penguin_alien]

I'll vote mastin once we get a VC to make sure I don't derphammer.

[DeasVail]

Deas, people play differently as scum too. Saying that he's try harder to do things as scum is just wrong. He doesn't have a history of doing that, so why does it make sense to assume that if he drew scum in this game, he'd definitely change his style? My point is we can't use any meta tells here and we can't take his lurking as a tell either way. You also say he's experienced which means he'd post scum reads as scum. Do you have evidence of this or are you just assuming again?

I'm not saying he'd try harder necessarily as scum, but it'd be much easier to just fake some scumreads as scum or pretend to have more townreads (to avoid having a super large leftover list and thus attract attention and be different) because you don't actually have to

read

people. It's much easier to be unsure of reads to PMatt's extent when you don't have the time to read people as you'd like to, and sometimes it can be a struggle to get good reads even when you do have time.

I have evidence that he's experienced at mafia. I've played with him a couple of times, one of those times being ~ two years ago.

TWIE > Mastin for me.

[Snork]

I'll vote mastin once we get a VC to make sure I don't derphammer.

What's the difference?

[Snork]

This is not town ranting.

lol.. k. I'm done talking about RM. I was in a foul mood this week due to work stress and she pissed me off. She still pisses me off but whatever. It's not worth it and it's just a game.

You, however, are either very bad at reading people or very scum. You are also the least icky wagon that exists. I'd much rather lynch pa but because she is scum, there is too much resistance and I don't have the right words to convince people.

[Nero Cain]

Wouldn't PA scum point to Mastin anyways?

[Snork]

Wouldn't PA scum point to Mastin anyways?

I don't follow.