MS Fantasy Camp 2: Reaper's Tale! (Finished!)

[Nero Cain]

this game is pretty boring so far. Kat having no content and instead just screaming and yelling would make for an excellent day 1 lynch. Would not be surprised if Nacho was bussin here.

moar kat votes plox.

[Katsuki]

WHO ARE MA BUDDIES NERO?

[Katsuki]

Children, please.

Not only is this trash talking not bringing us closer to a scum lynch, it's horribly bad.
Almost as worthless as F16 making a Town case on an IC.
Lambda, skittles aren't blue, they're

purple

mauve.

Katsuki's response to suspicion as scum is to bury the thread in bullshit, deflect, post nonsense.
Katsuki's response to suspicion as town is to talk about how I should be able to read him because this obviously isn't his scum meta (and it obviously isn't his scum meta), etc.

CLEARLY YOU DONT KNOW MY META
WE DONT TALK TO SCUMREADS THATS NOT HOW IT WORKS

I WAS WILLING TO MOVE ON
BUT
YOU THOUGHT YOU COULD MISLYNCH ME
SO GUESS WE STUCK HERE EH

[Nero Cain]

WHO ARE MA BUDDIES NERO?

doesn't smufing matter, Fate.

[Lost Butterfly]

Day 1, VC 10

sangres - (1):

Katsuki

Tim Howard - (4):

ChannelDelibird, Sixty, Zdenek, Shadoweh

Cerulean - (3):

Untrod Tripod, Tim Howard, Plum

Sixty - (3):

kanyeknowsbest, chamber, Cerulean

Katsuki - (3):

sangres,

Nero Cain

, Lady Lambdadelta

Not voting - (4):

Nobody Special, Flipping Awesome, xRECKONERx, Venmar

With

18

alive it takes

10

to lynch.
Deadline for Day 1:

26th of April at 5pm

Irish Time - countdown: (expired on 2014-04-26 12:00:00)

No one is V/la.[/area]

[Venmar]

Venmar, I'd like to hear what of

Nacho

's posts you found objectionable at first and how you now changed your mind.

(RIP fferyllt)

There aren't specific posts that made me think Sangres was scum per say, it was his whole vibe in the first batch of his posts in his ISO. They are very obnoxious, un-serious, and trolly, which I found very out of character for both Nacho, and the Sangres hydra as whole in general per their town meta i've seen. His #216, where he votes on Katsuki, was particularly out of character for Sangres, and the reaction itself was objectively bad. I changed my mind on Sangres a bit when several people reminded me that this isn't necessarily Sangres/Nacho's scum meta

either

, which nullified my read.

Sangres's recent posting, noticeably #295, have been a major improvement and are helping me town-read him now.

[Zdenek]

It looks like Empire is probably the only one who will engage my wall

~ F-16

Write a few lines why someone is scum, and you'll have my full attention.

[Zdenek]

I'm reading Howard as town.

I'm all ears.

[Flipping Awesome]

Katsuki is likely scum because of his bad vote on Sangres, opportunistic hopping onto wagons.

Tim Howard as well for his poor pushes on Sangres and Cerulean.

I don't have much other than an "off" feeling but I'll get a better idea of who is scum once more people post.

Venmar, you said Sangres 295 is good but what was it in your post 294 that you saw about Sangres that made you unvote?

~ F-16

[chamber]

Vote venmar

[Plum]

Sure, I'll take it.

UNVOTE:
VOTE: Venmar

Sponteneity is a virtue, after all.

[Venmar]

but what was it in your post 294 that you saw about Sangres that made you unvote?

Jesus christ if you do not understand why I unvoted by now, then you need to read harder.

[Flipping Awesome]

Your story actually does check out on a re-read. You seem to have unvoted because others have pointed out to you that it is not Nacho's scum meta either and the town read came later after you had already unvoted. How many games have you played with him with either of you being town/scum? Can you post a few links?

~ F-16

[sangres]

reports of my death were greatly exaggerated.

[Shadoweh]

Shadoweh, can you walk me through your thought process of criticizing my posts at first and then turning around and townreading them? (Penguin had a few thoughts in the QT but she said she'll post tonight so you should probably be able to interact with her then).
~ F-16

I wasn't critizing your posts, merely stating I don't have an idea of how to read you. Considering the general popularity you have I don't believe gaining a read on you today is a priority. Superficially I think you're townish?


Venmar's Day 1 in a nutshell: "I have no scumreads and I must talk about how Town Nacho is."
Maybe you should try reading someone else in the game instead. No, really, talk about how you read other people.
As tempting as moving is, I just got on this wagon and a lack of posting is never a reason to move in my books.

[Flipping Awesome]

Shadoweh, I actually think I was very unpopular at the beginning of the game considering only Nacho and Empire were strongly townreading me. Hopefully that'll change and our alignment will become more obvious as the game goes on though. I agree with most of your other reads. I am not sure what you are trying to say about Venmar exactly.

~ F-16

[Flipping Awesome]

Sorry ffery, I didn't mean to ignore your posts. I more wanted to get to the bottom of this:

I pride myself on being able to read Nacho very well and I guess this doesn't connect too much with his scum game either.

At first glance, it looks townish because he is asserting meta-authority over Nacho which makes him somewhat liable if he is scum and incorrectly accusing you. But I am not sure how much to factor it in.

~ F-16

[sangres]

@f-16 that was in reply to venmar's rip comment.

[Venmar]

Venmar's Day 1 in a nutshell: "I have no scumreads and I must talk about how Town Nacho is."

Gross and untrue distortion of facts is gross.

I'll move on on my own pace, you can stuff it if that bothers you.

[chamber]

You are talking stiltedly about a lot of odd stuff though.

[Shadoweh]

You're only unpopular if someone is actually voting you.
Actually, sometimes you can be popular and still have a wagon for no visible reason.
I'm saying people don't think you're scummy and it's obvious they don't.

It looks more like Venmar is backing down from a hard position to push due to drawing heat from it.

Gross and untrue distortion of facts is gross.

Oh, you're right, I forgot you said "I think Howard is Town." So there's one person you have a read on besides sangres. Trying to understand your read on Sangres is an exercise in futility because it's all tone arguments and no substance. What did 295 do for you that 99 didn't?

[Sixty]

Also, apparently making another player feel like a bad person is super pro now, awesomely well done there, sixty.

You can see how the things you are saying are actually sort of really... bad, right? Especially quadz: I don't know Nexus at all as a person, but quadz seems to be more of a diplomatic type and tends not to poke at a conflict when one is clearly bubbling it instead of defusing it.

I'm fairly positive that was a Nexus post.

But that's beside the point, the point being that that slot should be dead by now. It's an excellent point; why aren't you making it?

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LLD, could you offer a more understandable reaction picture?

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@Nero Cain - this puppyhalf would rather lynch Tim Howard over FATEsuki.

[Zdenek]

Scum Venmar might be telling us that Tim Howard is town.

[chamber]

Join the good fight!

[Flipping Awesome]

Venmar's Day 1 in a nutshell: "I have no scumreads and I must talk about how Town Nacho is."
Maybe you should try reading someone else in the game instead. No, really, talk about how you read other people.
As tempting as moving is, I just got on this wagon and a lack of posting is never a reason to move in my books.

It's not Venmar's lack of posting that makes me leery of him, it's what's actually in those posts. The prioritizing of reading Nacho-sangres, yet once he gets a town read on them, he doesn't use it. Like, there's no reach-out, no attempt to interact. Which if he knows the slot that well I'd expect.

Katsuki feels worst to me here. Untrod Tripod and Plum also read scummy, although I don't know that I've persuaded F-16 of that yet WRT Plum. I like the Tim Howard wagon as well, and based on where they are in the VC from 304, both the Katsuki and Tim Howard wagons are town driven, with my weakest read being Sixty on either wagon.

VOTE: Katsuki

Zdenek, was your CDB mention a throwaway choice or a scum read? Because if anything I think his first post skewed town for him.

--PA