Tales of You (Endgame)

[Yulia Jue]

Votecount 1-31

With 17 players alive, it will take 9 votes to lynch or nolynch.

PeregrineV (2): AngryPidgeon, Mac
MastinSSK (1): CupcakePanda
Just Sheep Us (5): orcinus_theoriginal, Red Gyarados, Breakfast With Stalin, Rancid Broderick Drake,

MastinSSK

, Kagura
AngryPidgeon (1): Lord Business
Rancid Broderick Drake (6): CarbonFiber, Just Sheep Us, PeregrineV, The Fox and the Hound, Yggdra Union, Clyton

Not Voting (1): Titan

With 17 players alive, deadline is set for 18 days: (expired on 2014-04-18 00:01:39)

Mod note: Deadline is soon.

[Just Sheep Us]

So, ffery, given your current read-state, how to you view the narrative of mastin/Titan/RDB/CF/FoxHound/AP/myself based on your reads (i.e., who's doing what in terms of actions?)

Right here - you posted this to the same goddamn player you crumbed the dethy to in Death's Diner.

You're reading into that wrong.

I always scum hunt by narrative.

Those were the core people of the game at that time.

Holy shit wtf am I doing.

[Breakfast With Sandy]

Ok. maybe that wasn't telegraphing the neighborhood. I'll retract that.

[CarbonFiber]

Nacho, how do you seriously not see BRO town here? You've read the neighborhood QT and read everything in the game and the way he is going about pushing lynches is really, really obviously town because this isn't the way scum-BRO does it.

[Kagura]

I think scum are much more likely to play according to past town meta (unless they don't like scum/are very transparent), while a town player's play is likely to be evolving such that their townplay

will

change.

You realize you argued earlier in the game that this game resembling your past townplay and not your scumplay made you town, right?

(Nullscum moves to weakscum.)

As DV has pointed out, this is apparently based on DV expressing one viewpoint while I expressed another.

Getting myself lynched first, watching as the town lynches my strongest townread, and secretly hoping the town loses is my thing. Don't go stealing it!

*shrug*

If Nati doesn't want to be lynched, he won't be lynched. I asked him to do something that could probably be considered against the spirit of the game, but since it's not a rule violation (I don't think) it will basically conftown us

In case it wasn't already obvious, I've asked him to paraphrase our entire hydra QT re: this game (200~ish posts so far, almost entirely me) - from the pre-game receiving role reactions to current, in order

I once again remind all people wagonning RBD of the post that should be enough to yank them out of their tunnel stupors.

If they do it and it looks genuine, I'd probably be swayed, but otherwise not by this alone.

They can't do it because it's a massive rules violation.
The way that this situation has come about is incredibly town and I really want you to think about if this comes from scum or not. Do you really think tha Muffin and Nati's frustration is fake, bullshitted, come up out of the blue? Because we have all seen Muffin fight lynches before. Has he ever fought a lynch like this at all?

Somehow I didn't get that 'rules violation' was the conclusion. I thought that the conclusion was 'meh, I don't feel like it', which wouldn't do much for me. Also, we asked if we could paraphrase or even quote parts of our hydra QT earlier in the game and it was fine, is that totally different?

I thought it could be. But I am feeling pretty good about you being town at this point (pretty much no thanks to you, but all the same) and I do trust towncho's reads more than my own. I don't know. If you can come up with a decent compromise lynch I might be okay with it but I'm not gonna go totally against my own reads either.

I haven't actually seen Muffin fight a lynch before that I recall?

~Ceph

Who are your strong townreads?

[Just Sheep Us]

Shit Desp isn't on gchat.

I'm trying really hard to stay in this game.

I don't know how I'm still typing.

[AngryPidgeon]

Though this of course raises the slight concern that the DesBRO wagon goes through, is town, and F-16 uses it to launch a crusade against Rancid/myself.

Which changes basically nothing?

[Breakfast With Sandy]

Bro, you never replied to my post about your scumreading bad theory/illogic and why that's relevant to your "scum claim" argument.

[MastinSSK]

Votecount 1-30

With 17 players alive, it will take 9 votes to lynch or nolynch.

PeregrineV (5): Kagura, AngryPidgeon, MastinSSK, Mac, Rancid Broderick Drake
MastinSSK (1): CupcakePanda
Just Sheep Us (3): orcinus_theoriginal, Red Gyarados, Breakfast With Stalin
AngryPidgeon (1): Lord Business
Rancid Broderick Drake (6): CarbonFiber, Just Sheep Us, PeregrineV, The Fox and the Hound, Yggdra Union, Clyton

Not Voting (1)

With 17 players alive, deadline is set for 18 days: (expired on 2014-04-18 00:01:39)

Rancid, Kagura, and technically-me have switched to DesBRO. That's five officially on him. Another on the wagon switching would be six. (AP.) I'd hope Mac could switch, but looks like not. But this is still viable for those who're townreading Rancid and/or want to grab at towncred.

[The Fox and the Hound]

Who are your strong townreads?

Titan, Clyton, CF, ffery, maybe you.

[Just Sheep Us]

Bro, you never replied to my post about your scumreading bad theory/illogic and why that's relevant to your "scum claim" argument.

ffery, I can barely type right now.

I'm lying in bead tryina to cath my beat.

I feel like I'm gonna collapse.

[Breakfast With Sandy]

unvote

What's going on?

[Rancid Broderick Drake]

F-16 the fact we are sitting here doing our damndest to keep you from lynching us and you literally are sitting in a goddamn echo chamber is so bothersome.

You pride yourself in being a well-read player, but you ignore the facts.

Scum Nati doesn't bitch and moan when caught.

Or how about who you are trusting on the read.

Nacho ffery mastin(ssk) mac

Vs

Gif desperado broseidon cephrir

Here's a hint: one of those groups has played a fuckton of games more with me than the other. And you know what they are saying?

VOTE: DespBRO because this is the wagon i actually want.

<3 Cabd

I told you why I want PV, Nati. There is a chance BRO is just really, really bad at the game, but read PV's posts leading up to the vote and think about what I said before I'd read past p97

[Kagura]

Nacho, how do you seriously not see BRO town here? You've read the neighborhood QT and read everything in the game and the way he is going about pushing lynches is really, really obviously town because this isn't the way scum-BRO does it.

You're ignoring me.

[MastinSSK]

Which changes basically nothing?

True, but he gains conviction that he really has no need for.

At least PV to me actually has a significant chance of flipping scum. DesBRO is just a shot in the dark, which I'm supporting since it seems to be the only non-Rancid option available.

[Kagura]

Vote: PeregrineV

[Kagura]

BRO, are you okay?

[The Fox and the Hound]

Kagura, what is it that makes you think the meltdown isn't some desperate attempt to avoid lynch? The QT paraphrasing thing almost reminds me of the claiming shenanigans of Macrophage in that Last Will game way back. It's weird and looks like something scum wouldn't do, but I'm wondering if there is really any point to it other than a fabricated attempt to look town?

I guess I know that if I'm in the mood for it, I'll become increasingly desperate as scum to the point where I'll do things that I wouldn't normally do in an attempt to have people townread me, so I want to know what in particular makes you think this is not the case here.

[Rancid Broderick Drake]

I told you why I want PV, Nati. There is a chance BRO is just really, really bad at the game, but read PV's posts leading up to the vote and think about what I said before I'd read past p97

Also Clyton fits the mold for what I said about that as well, but I'm not really reading him as scum

[The Fox and the Hound]

^-DV

[CarbonFiber]

Nacho, how do you seriously not see BRO town here? You've read the neighborhood QT and read everything in the game and the way he is going about pushing lynches is really, really obviously town because this isn't the way scum-BRO does it.

You're ignoring me.

FINE. I'll
UNVOTE:
and you can be happy for derailing a scum lynch even after a bunch of people put so much effort into making it happen just like you derailed the muffin lynch in Xenosaga.

I'm pretty sure people are just going to say "lol, you weren't convincing, we were wrong, it happens" and some such shit.

[MastinSSK]

unvote

What's going on?

Well, what's going on is that if he's town, he thinks he's getting flashwagoned by scum in his blind arrogance.
If he's scum, he's having a panic attack that he got flashwagoned off of literally nothing.

[MastinSSK]

VOTE: PeregrineV.

[Yggdra Union]

Though this of course raises the slight concern that the DesBRO wagon goes through, is town, and F-16 uses it to launch a crusade against Rancid/myself.

what the actual fuck is this? THIS LITERALLY SERVES NO PURPOSE OTHER THAN TO DISCREDIT F-16

WHY THE FUCK IS NO ONE SEEING THE SHIT MASTIN IS PULLING IN THIS GAME

JUST FUCKING LOOK AT IT. IT'S COMPLETE FUCKING BULLSHIT

mastin is now going to quote this post and respond with some bullshit excuse that is nothing more than a blank check for scum to hide behind and or call attention to F-16's so-called "arrogance" or otherwise downplay his read on her. [/BRO]

I still wanna lynch RBD, but if not, anyone up for a mastin lynch?

-Y

[Kagura]

Nacho, how do you seriously not see BRO town here? You've read the neighborhood QT and read everything in the game and the way he is going about pushing lynches is really, really obviously town because this isn't the way scum-BRO does it.

You're ignoring me.

FINE. I'll
UNVOTE:
and you can be happy for derailing a scum lynch even after a bunch of people put so much effort into making it happen just like you derailed the muffin lynch in Xenosaga.

I'm pretty sure people are just going to say "lol, you weren't convincing, we were wrong, it happens" and some such shit.

In Touhou, for shitty reasons.
I'm not derailing a scum lynch here.