Tales of You (Abyss Neighborhood)

[F-16_Fighting_Falcon]

I've been thinking about the game and considering ffery suddenly had an aha moment when we revealed the neighborhood about BRO-Desp's stances and reads, jumping on the JSU flashwagon towards the end may mean that Breakfast could be scum because it doesn't make all that much sense. I'll bring this in thread D2. But to be fair, Tammy did as well so it is possible for a townie to think that JSU could be scum so maybe Breakfast did too. That's the baseline I'm working with.

[pieguyn]

Hello, FourTrouble here.

I'm thinking Mac is scum. Thoughts?

this doesn't work with rbd scum there were a few posts swhere rbd was blatantly manipulating mac

I didn't see this and am still considering the Mac-scum option. Care to point it out?

all that bullshit with the rhyming at the start of the game

there's a chance it's scum theater, but it's similar to what he pulled with Varsoon in GIF's touhou how they kept referencing space dandy

[pieguyn]

So, I am re-evaluating every player in the game to figure out the scum. Pie help me out.

Town (Strongest->Weakest)

:
1 Yggdra Union - Obvtown. Strongest townread. Literally impossible to be scum.
2 Titan (Tammy + Sir Arthur Dane) - Obvtown? Of course.
3 Just Sheep Us (Broseidon and Desperado) - If anyone thinks BRO's post came from scum, they are kidding
4 Cupcake Panda - Trust level town according to BRO. Katsuki never lurks as scum
5 The Fox and the Hound (cephrir and DV) - Also very, very fucking town
6 Kagura (borkjerfkin + nachomamma8) - Has to be town because of Bork
7 PeregrineV - Positionally town because scum pushed him, other reasons in my mega-case

** Up until here, I'll bank the entire game on these reads**

(One scum is probably here)

8 Mac - Rancid seems to be manipulating him but FT has concerns
9 Red Gyarados (Brian Skies and notscience) - FT had concerns and tbh Brian Skies posts had no scumhunting but probably town
10 Breakfast With Stalin (Hydra of ffery and beli) - Consistent defense of Rancid/Mastin/AP threw me off
11 orcinus_theoriginal - Not sure what he was doing with regard to putting LB and breakfast so that threw me for a loop
12 Lord Business - Probtown from the way he approached the governer
13 Clyton - Don't like his voting Rancid and coming back to unvote. Probscum

Scum (Strongest->Weakest)

:
14 Rancid Broderick Drake (zmuffinman and natirasha)
15 MastinSSK (Mastin2, MafiaSSK)
16 AngryPidgeon

TOWN
1 Kagura (borkjerfkin + nachomamma8) <- bork seems town adn I've defenitely seen the town Nacho passion this game although I prefer to take my time reading Nacho
3 Yggdra Union (giffy and pieguyn) 3 Yukari Yakumo
5 Titan (Tammy + Sir Arthur Dane) <- v
10 Carbon Fiber (FourTrouble and F16) <- v
12 Just Sheep Us (Broseidon and Desperado) <-all obvtown
13 Red Gyarados (Brian Skies and notscience) <- notsci being around like at all means they're town. I haven't been paying attention to them much so correct me if I'm wrong

15 PeregrineV <- agree with you here
17 Mac <- on the assumption of RBD scum. it's a null without bias

2 The Fox and the Hound (cephrir and DV) <- I'm only unsure here bc it's Cephrir. generally, when our thoughts align this well, he's scum. I'll go with your read cause I can't read him for shit
8 Breakfast With Stalin (Hydra of ffery and beli) <- I can't remember anything ffery did all game but I'm notusing that as a tell considering she was busy for a while at the start of the game iirc? besides that I haven't seen anything obvtown she's done firsthand. I need more data here
14 Cupcake Panda <- I can't get any read on cupcake panda. I'll go with your reads on this one

4 orcinus_theoriginal <- role seems town
6 Rancid Broderick Drake (zmuffinman and natirasha)
7 MastinSSK (Mastin2, MafiaSSK)
9 AngryPidgeon 9 ElementalHawk (Prohawk+3dicerolling) <- role might be town?
11 Lord Business <- recent behavior seems town
16 Clyton

[pieguyn]

if any of my reads are wrong it's probably breakfast or RG. if we're wrong about mastin and RBD, swap in fox and hound mostly bc I can't read him at all

[BROseidon]

RBD voted breaky.

That makes me nervous. Then again, muffin does have a bussing meta and blah blah blah.

Fuck :/

[pieguyn]

I think I know who LB is and if he is who I think he is this is exactly the kind of thing I think he'd do as scum. but at the same time if he is that person I think he'd be more involved if he was scum here

I'm so confused

and happy scumday BRO ^_^ /late

[CarbonFiber]

Yeah, I think it is EXACTLY what he would do as scum. So, yeah. I'm still debating who to vote for.

[F-16_Fighting_Falcon]

There are some key reasons why this RBD lynch is a WHOLE LOAD OF FUCKING SHIT.

I still haven't read since CF claimed but still some questions I feel people don't have answers too;

Why does scum Muffin, who is the fucking reigning DON CORLEONE on site and has fooled the majority of players in this game, feel the need to claim miller right out the gate?

Why does scum Muffin fake apathy and then go on to fucking admit it was fake and he just wanted to see if anyone would townread him?

WHY IS TOWN MUFFINATI BEING LYNCHED?

Anyone who is suspicious of Mac: This isn't scum defending a buddy, this is wrong town.

[F-16_Fighting_Falcon]

The emotions are genuine there. Even if Rancid is somehow town, Mac is still town. I'm going to run this by FT but I just don't agree with him. Mac is town.

[BROseidon]

Interesting that RBD votes Stalin, no response.

AP votes Stalin, "AP you scum?"

[BROseidon]

Okay, writing a vote off to trolling is bizarre.

[GuyInFreezer]

So how did fery know that it was nati vote, not muffin?

[pieguyn]

and that

writing that vote off as "trolling" seems weird as fuck tbh

[BROseidon]

Votes are due tomorrow morning.

I haven't sync'd up with desp. Still debating whether to drop the vote on Stalin or make the safe vote and go for them tomorrow.

[Desperado]

get on gchat

[pieguyn]

actually, now that I think about this more
ffery not working with me re: mastin and instead positioning against me is probably a scum claim. but I'm having a lot of hesitation making that call right now for some reason

[F-16_Fighting_Falcon]

Hmm, I am still thinking about it. I honestly don't know. We can talk about it and quickvote in the morning if we are all agreed on it. BUT, I want to be ABSOLUTELY certain. If I even have an inkling that ffery and Beli are town, I am not even going to bother voting at all. (I know that's hypocritical considering I was telling people to vote RBD based on less), but this is special scenario.

[F-16_Fighting_Falcon]

actually, now that I think about this more
ffery not working with me re: mastin and instead positioning against me is probably a scum claim. but I'm having a lot of hesitation making that call right now for some reason

I don't get this either. There are four of us (you, me, BRO, and Desp) all saying that MastinSSK and RBD are scum and she is resolutely refusing to vote either so it really gives me hives (to use ffery's words). If she is scum and we nail her down, it would be a massive blow to the scumteam but if she is town, it would be a blow to town as well.

[F-16_Fighting_Falcon]

Well, BroDesp already voted LB so we are outvoted anyways. It is irrelevant now.

[borkjerfkin]

I took the weekend off MS and I feel a bit better now.

Considering where the wagons are and how I feel about ffery in general, I don't think I have the chutzpah to vote BWS today, even if it did matter.

[BROseidon]

Okay, I was right about LB crumbing something about having a post-mortem role.

Wish he'd told us what the trigger was for his return.

[F-16_Fighting_Falcon]

I was hoping Nacho posted here. I am legitimately starting to worry about his affiliation. Still want him to explain why he is complaining at people that pushed the RBD wagon instead of RBD themselves.

[F-16_Fighting_Falcon]

The more I think about it, the more ridiculously weird this is looking. Nacho has logged onto the site this weekend and today but hasn't checked into the neighborhood. His early analysis in the QT neighborhood also sent up all sorts of red flags especially some of the reasoning behind his reads, his jump into the thread to say that Mastin is town, and then complete disappearance. The later appearance at deadline to derail the Rancid lynch. If he is so uninvested in the game, how did he show up at deadline at precisely the right moments to shake things up and then got the hell out of there for good until now. I don't understand it and I am not sure I want to believe Nacho as town would do that. I also think he'd approach it in a completely different way if town. For one, as I mentioned before, it feels completely nuts to have seen what happened in the game and say that BRO was creating a "carnival of lunacy" as opposed to something like "Muffin, enough with the personal attacks, we're here to play a game, don't make it unfun for everyone involved." It feels like he is completely out of step with what's happening in the game and trying to push an agenda as opposed to genuinely being Nacho.

[CarbonFiber]

Also, do you realize how fucking bad your pushes are? DV? Really? And then Pere? You've gotta be kidding me.

[pieguyn]

I could possibly see that but the problem I'm having is that Nacho's been strongly on tilt in general recently. I feel like I can read him right given enough time and if anything I'm taking the way he was megaderailing that lynch as a towntell for the time being although I might reconsider it later

(like look at GIF touhou where he massively derailed a lynch off scum zmuffin and probably lost the game bc of it)