League of Legends (Old)

[Saki]

Got plat last night.

Finally.

Took long enough.

gratz

welcome to the club

Weren't you crying about being stuck in gold?

I hit plat a while back

forgot to brag ITT

[Glork]

Like yah sure there's no channel time on jax leap but he lands you slice away instantly if you cast it in reaction and you dont get hit by the empowered AA.

I'm pretty sure Empowered works on the jump itself, and since the jump is targeted you should take all damage regardless.

I'm pretty sure i always take damage regardless of moving away during his jump (to avoid counter strike)

Except if you're doing it right, you'll leap, AA, empowered AA for max damage. Empowering resets your autoattack so you want to maximize your damage that way.

(Alternatively, if you're worried about them escaping or CCing you, you prep Counterattack, Leap Strike, AA, Emowered AA. I prefer to counterattack after the initial burst but I'm bad so take that with a grain of salt. Leading with the stun can help guarantee you win the trade if it lands, but it's easy to see coming.)

[notscience]

Back to my thing- playing as them. Zepher kinda hit on it nicely.

I usually prefer to play really passively, which doesn't really work a lot currently with ADCs all expecting you to go balls to the wall 24/7. Last season I could play someone like Nami/Janna no problem, but this season it's more difficult because I find a lot more trading

[chesskid3]

Except if you're doing it right, you'll leap, AA, empowered AA for max damage. Empowering resets your autoattack so you want to maximize your damage that way.

This.
If all you're doing is one empowered leap then you aren't chunking them like jax likes to do.

[chesskid3]

so ideally how the trade goes
leap in, slice happens before the empowered AA, aa gets used on a minion, dice back in, counterstrike is triggered, stun, q, walk out, positive trade

[Saki]

Back to my thing- playing as them. Zepher kinda hit on it nicely.

I usually prefer to play really passively, which doesn't really work a lot currently with ADCs all expecting you to go balls to the wall 24/7. Last season I could play someone like Nami/Janna no problem, but this season it's more difficult because I find a lot more trading

Tell your ADC that you want to play passive and hope to god he didn't pick something like Twitch.

or play Morgana

[MrZepher]

or play Morgana

Basically this.

[PJ.]

Back to my thing- playing as them. Zepher kinda hit on it nicely.

I usually prefer to play really passively, which doesn't really work a lot currently with ADCs all expecting you to go balls to the wall 24/7. Last season I could play someone like Nami/Janna no problem, but this season it's more difficult because I find a lot more trading

Tell your ADC that you want to play passive and hope to god he didn't pick something like Twitch.

or play Morgana

Or shut the fuck up and play a champ that can handle going in. Cater to your guy. It's fairly easy to guess what your partner wants just from their champ select and the shit they say in champ select. You have an instalock adc only Twitch? That guy is going to be confident and going to want to fight or harrass. Play Leona. You have a timid guy who got forced into ADC and picked Ashe? Pick Janna, Thresh, Soraka. Know what works in botlane AND what the guy playing carry wants. YOU ARE SUPPORT! You make the game early. That vayne can't win the lane by herself(unless she can but that's a different story that involves rito matchmaking). You need to play/pick accordingly!

[Nikanor]

Back to my thing- playing as them. Zepher kinda hit on it nicely.

I usually prefer to play really passively, which doesn't really work a lot currently with ADCs all expecting you to go balls to the wall 24/7. Last season I could play someone like Nami/Janna no problem, but this season it's more difficult because I find a lot more trading

Tell your ADC that you want to play passive and hope to god he didn't pick something like Twitch.

or play Morgana

Or shut the fuck up and play a champ that can handle going in. Cater to your guy. It's fairly easy to guess what your partner wants just from their champ select and the shit they say in champ select. You have an instalock adc only Twitch? That guy is going to be confident and going to want to fight or harrass. Play Leona. You have a timid guy who got forced into ADC and picked Ashe? Pick Janna, Thresh, Soraka. Know what works in botlane AND what the guy playing carry wants. YOU ARE SUPPORT! You make the game early. That vayne can't win the lane by herself(unless she can but that's a different story that involves rito matchmaking). You need to play/pick accordingly!

I'd much rather be forced to be passive because my support picked Nami than be forced to be passive because my support is 0/6/0 first time Leona.

[MrZepher]

The panzer school of "play what's op only" SURPRISINGLY doesn't apply to everything.

[Saki]

You have an instalock adc only Twitch?

Dodge queue. Knowing yoloqueue he's probably not good.

You have a timid guy who got forced into ADC and picked Ashe?

Never fucking happens.
In the rare case it does, dodge queue.



I'd rather dodge, take the -3lp and the 5min penalty, than take the pain of trying to support an ADC who has either no idea what he's doing or won't fucking listen to his support.

[BROseidon]

Got plat last night.

Finally.

Took long enough.

gratz

welcome to the club

Thanks.

Took me long enough.

Fun fact: One time when I was hanging out with Rioters, CertainlyT made fun of me for complaining about "only being plat."

[BROseidon]

Anyone have any advice for the current support Meta? I have trouble with the aggro supports.

Get good at Lulu.

Start AP gold item.

Go 2nd tier AP item (don't full upgrade)->sightstone->mobility shoes->Twin Shadows->Hat->Void->Sell AP item for 'nomicon.

Win.

[RayFrost]

My rules for yoloq picking in general:

Above all else, play champions you know how to play. (Don't first time malphite just cuz your team wants you to play him for omgepicyasuocombos)

Then pick for what suits the team / lane out of that pool of things you're good at.

Then pick what teammates ask you to pick for their own preferences. If you're good at thresh lulu leona zyra and they all are good picks but your adc wants you to play zyra, play zyra - he probably understands how zyra works more than how the others work, and you're good with her so it's not a risk.

The reason for the third one has the added extension that it makes your teammate(s) like you more, which means lower chance of rage, higher chance of communication, and higher chance of them performing their best due to :feelgood:

Note that a lower chance of rage doesn't mean a guaranteed lack of rage. People get wound up and upset. Shrug.

My rules for yoloq playstyle as support:

Watch adc's movements and enemy bot lane's movements, decide if they're passive or aggressive. Adapt playstyle to match how the lane is playing out to minimize the loss / maximize the gain from the differences.

I've had games where I was passive until level 7 or so on leona because my adc wanted bf sword before going in. I was chill with this and then we suddenly went balls deep on the lane opponents that had been trying to bully us out of lane all game for free double kill. I've had games where I went aggressive on soraka / janna at level 4 and we just pushed the enemy bot lane out of the game.

I never go into a game with any specific playstyle set into my head. It's all about backing up a teammate's plays and deciding when you feel they'd back up your own / making sure they do by pinging / etc. Even a basic level of communication with pings can help coordinate this, or typing out ideas while in base for when you get back, etc.

There's bad games there's good games, but I find I have more good games than bad ones (in terms of coordination / teamwork / results) when I follow these guidelines. Whenever I stray away from being flexible or get caught up in trying to "mesh well" with the team at the cost of my ability to play my champion, I tend to lose.

You do you, they do them, it works out. Or it doesn't. And you move on to the next one. Rinse repeat.

[BROseidon]

Or always pick Lulu or Thresh.

They pair with pretty much every ADC and can play aggressively or passively.

And they're both broken to hell.

pedit: Zyra support is kind of meh right now. Better to just go Lulu. She does most of what Zyra does, but better, and has her broken-ass w.

[notscience]

I have champions I know better than others that I try to prefer and play, however at the same time I try not to damn the comp (so I'll play something I don't play as often if we absolutely need it).

I liked Lulu a lot last season. Haven't really been able to get into her that much this season, mostly due to not really having that much success with the gold generation as her.

Who's a good passive toplaner?

[chesskid3]

nasus

[RayFrost]

Other laners that are fine being passive can include but are not limited to: singed, yasuo, warwick, udyr, trundle, shyvana, ryze, and mundo.

Note that some of these can be played aggressively, but they scale well enough to not NEED to be aggressive in the laning phase.

The noteworthy ones are udyr and shyvana. They split push insanely well, so they can serve a very powerful purpose in the game without ever actually ~fighting~ anything but minions and towers. Like legit these fucks are annoying as shit if you can't pin them down when they decide to take your top inhib then swing down to your bot towers then speeddash away when you chase them and waste your time while their team takes baron for free.

[chesskid3]

Just had a great d/c game for first 7 minutes

somehow still won

whee

[Glork]

Other laners that are fine being passive can include but are not limited to: singed, yasuo, warwick, udyr, trundle, shyvana, ryze, and mundo.

Note that some of these can be played aggressively, but they scale well enough to not NEED to be aggressive in the laning phase.

The noteworthy ones are udyr and shyvana. They split push insanely well, so they can serve a very powerful purpose in the game without ever actually ~fighting~ anything but minions and towers. Like legit these fucks are annoying as shit if you can't pin them down when they decide to take your top inhib then swing down to your bot towers then speeddash away when you chase them and waste your time while their team takes baron for free.

DONGERS.

[TheIrishPope]

uh

[Oman]

That feel when I upvote someone on the LoL subreddit and see it's actually pickemgenius. Jesus.

[Red Gyarados]

@Rayfrost- What does toplane Udyr build?

[RayFrost]

@Rayfrost- What does toplane Udyr build?

Toplane udyr can build variably, but I know trinity force is pretty standard with tanky item choices including things like frozen heart / visage or bveil.

If you get ninja tabi cuz high ad team comp then zephyr is a pretty valuable item purchase.

If you plan to go split push farmerino udyr build, you should probably go ghost tp and get early distortion boots to just zoom zoom and give absolutely zero of the metric fucks.

Other build paths are oriented toward other things, but yeah.

[BROseidon]

Udyr can build whatever the fuck he needs to based on the gamestate.