MS Fantasy Camp 2: Reaper's Tale! (Finished!)

[Plum]

Look at this guy and his Cerulean read:

Do you think either chamber or Cerulean are scum? Or NS? I appreciate the sentiment and I wish I could believe it were true, but there aren't alot of options for it here, so I don't know who those needlers would be.

I'm reading chamber as town. I thought Cerulean's early posts were incredibly scummy, but they've been towntelling lately. I could absolutely support a Cerulean wagon though.

Read: "I am up for whatever future read on Cerulean has utility for me," also, barely touches on Cerulean afterwards except to give this justification for his pseudo-scumread:

Do you really think Tammy was faking any of that conversation? I really don't think she's capable of that.

I haven't played much with Tammy so I can't speak to what she's capable of, I just know that http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.ph ... 6#p5816816 struck me as scum making a nervous joke.

Which in any case doesn't change how he's positioned himself regarding Cerulean.

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Look at this guy and his reasoning for jumping into the Tim Howard wagon near its height:

they're all over the road

the buddying post at me for townreading them, quadz walking in this morning and going "hey guys let's not get carried away and I think you are being a bit rude don't you think?", the scumread on Zed which is... I mean... what the fuck is that

this doesn't look like a persecution complex so much as a scum hydra trying to play good cop bad cop so people will feel guilty for scumreading them. mayyyyyyyybe I'm super bad at reading hydras, but it looks to me like damage control from a scum perspective rather than a town one

And look at him never mentioning it again or interacting with Tim Howard in a way relevant to this all-but momentary scumread. Even when Sixty calls him out on the vote being bad, he addresses other points but for some reason not the TH vote. ???

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Look at this guy's appeal to Shadoweh, near the height of

her

wagon:

And I keep opening the thread and then closing it again because Shadoweh's ridiculous histrionics make me just want to die inside. Shadoweh I'm begging you: I've played games with you and you're a GREAT player when you're not flipping the fuck out like this. Please take a chill pill and help us hunt scum. I'd bet my bottom boondollar that scum are trying to make you a nonfactor by needling you out of the game.

Look at him never having interacted with or commented on her play directly outside of answering a couple of questions that didn't touch on Shadoweh's alignment or play, and never doing so again. Whence his conviction that Shadoweh is definitely Town? No clue.

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tl;dr UT is scum. The dude's votes, scumreads, and Townreads are BS. Vote him, lynch him.

[Untrod Tripod]

cute, but wrong

and you trying to force a wagon away from your buddy Venmar is also cute

[Plum]

1. We've already mutually established that you're not really the target audience for this stuff, haven't we?

2. I literally could not give fewer fucks about that notion.

[Untrod Tripod]

well obviously you're not going to just claim it outright. you have to spend time twisting my words to fit your incredibly scummy picture of the game. I mean, I applaud your efforts, especially given that you were such a non-participant yesterday, but...

[Plum]

...

[Untrod Tripod]

please proceed, governor

[Shadoweh]

Instant gut reaction is that the Venmar wagon is all about :JUSTICE: (totally understandable btw) and less about actual scum motivation. Will ISO him later today.

I don't get why people are giving him heck when Nero is the one that teehee hammered yesterday. Other then still hating his trolling or something? Considering even via trolling he's still posting more then half of you I don't get what the deal is about it in the first place. Seems like more of yesterDay.

Also even if I like UT's reasoning for why I'm obvTown, I'm still of the opinion he's apathetic scum. If you thought Venmar was trolly scum I find it less likely you would have voted on the same wagon and enabled the derp-hammer in the first place. Especially when you and him were posting about at the same time. You didn't seem that edgey about it.

[Zdenek]

Vote: Plum

I was really hoping that you would say something about the scum-tell the Venmar is using.

[Nero Cain]

You know...at the time I was sick and just woken up. Doesn't really excuse my play but meh....I guess I'm slow and need it to be explained.

Venmar - (5): Nero Cain, Untrod Tripod, chamber, Venmar, Sheep Majiffy or Thor

Here I'm voting for Venmar and then Vemar self votes and his vote is a double vote.

Katsuki - (10): sangres, Shadoweh, Tim Howard, ChannelDelibird, Nobody Special, Venmar, Sixty, Untrod Tripod,Nero Cain, Sheep Majiffy or Thor

Here he's voting kat and then I vote then its a double vote.

My list of abilities doesn't say anything about a double vote and to make me and Venmar both town and make us triple voters if on the same wagon WITHOUT TELLING ME seems...idkswingy and kina bastardish in a way. So maybe I'm just a simpleton but it looks to me like Venmar is a double voter and send the hammering vote in.

[Lost Butterfly]

Day 2, VC 3

kanyeknowsbest - (3):

Venmar, ChannelDelibird, xRECKONERx

Venmar - (3):

Nero Cain

, Untrod Tripod, Zdenek

Tim Howard - (1):

kanyeknowsbest

Untrod Tripod - (3):

Shadoweh, Plum, chamber

Plum - (1):

Cerulean

Not voting - (4):

Nobody Special, Lady Lambdadelta, Tim Howard, Flipping Awesome

With

15

alive it takes

8

to lynch.
Deadline for Day 1:

11th of May at 8:10pm

Irish Time - countdown: (expired on 2014-05-11 15:10:00)

No one is V/la.[/area]

Flipping Awesome have probably fallen asleep

[Ner+Far]

vote:kkb

vote count now before Venmar gets on!

[Nero Cain]

vote:kkb

[Nobody Special]

I have a very strong feeling that Nero is intentionally being stupid about the voting thing. Because the Nero Cain that I know is not an idiot.

[Shadoweh]

My list of abilities doesn't say anything about a double vote and to make me and Venmar both town and make us triple voters if on the same wagon WITHOUT TELLING ME seems...idkswingy and kina bastardish in a way. So maybe I'm just a simpleton but it looks to me like Venmar is a double voter and send the hammering vote in.

Did you think I was being hyperbolic about your secret doublevote or something? HE TOLD YOU WHEN HE SAID HE'D SHOW YOU A MAGIC TRICK WHEN HE VOTED HIMSELF. What did you think 'Sheep Majiffy or Thor' as a vote meant?

[Venmar]

My list of abilities doesn't say anything about a double vote and to make me and Venmar both town and make us triple voters if on the same wagon WITHOUT TELLING ME seems...idkswingy and kina bastardish in a way. So maybe I'm just a simpleton but it looks to me like Venmar is a double voter and send the hammering vote in.

No, I am Majiffy, and you are Thor. My role dictates that if you and I are on the same wagon, we create a third vote automatically no matter what you or I say. The whole idea is that Majiffy has this flowchart around sheeping him and Nero, which is the basis behind my passive ability.

[Flipping Awesome]

@ LostButterfly

, I'll have reduced activity over the next couple of weeks owing to finals but I'll probably still be keeping up with the thread.
~ F-16

[Flipping Awesome]

Flipping Awesome have probably fallen asleep

:alarm buzzes:

So we're not convinced Plum's town by any stretch of the imagination, but I like the kanye wagon better than the Venmar one and I kind of like Untrod Tripod for possible town still.

VOTE: kanyeknowsbest

--PA

[kanyeknowsbest]

its some scumtell i picked up from Empire (games ago)

i dont understand how it works can you please explain it to me and why its a scumtell ty.vm.

[kanyeknowsbest]

hey bird how come youre restricting yourself to only two wagons @ the start of d2? what happened to plum?

[Zdenek]

Sixty was defending Venmar quite a lot. A scum team with him with would want them around, and a scum team without him would be helped by having them gone, so

Unvote

[Lost Butterfly]

Day 2, VC 4

kanyeknowsbest - (6):

Venmar, ChannelDelibird, xRECKONERx,

Nero Cain

, Sheep Majiffy or Thor, Flipping Awesome

Venmar - (1):

Untrod Tripod

Tim Howard - (1):

kanyeknowsbest

Untrod Tripod - (3):

Shadoweh, Plum, chamber

Plum - (1):

Cerulean

Not voting - (4):

Nobody Special, Lady Lambdadelta, Tim Howard, Zdenek

With

15

alive it takes

8

to lynch.
Deadline for Day 1:

11th of May at 8:10pm

Irish Time - countdown: (expired on 2014-05-11 15:10:00)

No one is V/la.[/area]

[Shadoweh]

Okay so, I'm sure this seems like a silly request, but does anyone voting kayne actually want to say why they're doing it, or are we just going to stare at these votes and wait for something to happen? "He wasn't here" doesn't explain to me why people care so much.

[xRECKONERx]

No I don't.

[Zdenek]

The best reason to vote for Kanye is him sidelining his vote at the end of day.
I'm still pretty much down with that.
But these are early days.

[kanyeknowsbest]

The best reason to vote for Kanye is him sidelining his vote at the end of day.
I'm still pretty much down with that.
But these are early days.

hows that make me scum?