Tales of You (Endgame)

[Cabd]

Votecount 2-15 (Unchanged from 2-14)

With 14 players alive, it will take 8 votes to lynch or nolynch.


MastinSSK (5): Just Sheep Us, PeregrineV, Yggdra Union, orcinus_theoriginal, CupcakePanda
Nachomamma8 (2): Red Gyarados, MastinSSK
CupcakePanda (1): The Fox and the Hound
PeregrineV (1): Titan


Not Voting (5): Nachomamma8, Carbon Fiber, Clyton, Breakfast With Stalin, AP

Mod Notes:

With 14 players alive, deadline is set for 15 days: (expired on 2014-05-07 22:26:21)

[AngryPidgeon]

nowhere in that sentence do I see the word scum.

[Breakfast With Sandy]

nowhere in that sentence do I see the word scum.

[AngryPidgeon]

[CarbonFiber]

The central core as I see it are: Mastin, AP, desbro, you, stalin with a little pie and me added in for flavor.

The periphery is everyone else.

If Mastin flipped town my reads on desbro, nacho, pie and maybe you might feel in flux. That might be because of neighborhood, but I would be looking at all of you cross-eyed trying to figure out which one of you were scum pulling everyone's strings.

How do you feel AP fits into this? Do you have a read on him now?

[CarbonFiber]

CF: I think the game state is whatever it is because you/tammy/ffery are talking about peripheral things and waffling back and forth forever. Mastin 2 for that matter. No one is pursuing scum reads just getting paranoid about I can't even tell what. Phone post

And making plans as scum beyond a day or 2 out is silly because of course things will go unexpectedly. At ffery: the direction is pretty much mastin getting lynched. There has been no other direction.

I probably waffled very little this game, particularly my pushing the Rancid wagon was probably tunneling. I'm considering the possibilities of course, as in "what if Mastin is town" because the last time I did that when I suspected him, I ended up realizing he was in fact town.

And "peripheral things" aren't all that bad if they help read the other person tonally and get a feel for them. I am much more averse to back-and-forths where two people scumread each other but that's probably just me.

[orcinus_theoriginal]

Nacho am I town, scum, or fptslbooa?

Scum. Unless you die soon!

If I shove you really hard will your team NK me?

Also, why was I blocked?

Your target was me but it failed.
Seemed like you weren't blocked to me!

ap are you a child?

[CarbonFiber]

And making plans as scum beyond a day or 2 out is silly because of course things will go unexpectedly. At ffery: the direction is pretty much mastin getting lynched. There has been no other direction.

my vote sometimes has electromagnetic effects.

makes me cautious about using it.

which is to say I think that beli and I could probably break that wagon if we had a better idea where we should vote. And since we've grown less comfortable about voting Mastin we're struggling with what next and if it makes sense to eventually put our vote there with misgivings.

So, you are basically saying that you could lead a counterwagon to Mastin if you want but aren't sure if you want to? If he's scum, you probably could. That's part of the reason I am still scumreading Rancid is that their wagon was harder to push despite a more prolonged and sustained push than counterwagons like Orc and I think scum would want to push the wagon that is not on them.

[AngryPidgeon]

im proud as fuck at this game

So am I! Thoughts about that game cheer me up whenever I am starting to get a little annoyed at this one.

Hey, do you wanna hydra with me sometime in the future when you are back from your mafia break.

I would love to!

Awesome.

*Waits for Pidgeon to call me scum*

Actually....

to post is to be perceived AP, start posting town and I'll start thinking you are town

That hasn't been in my sig for a while

Also we should hydra when one of my games ends or something. I like it more when we coordinate our trolling efforts.

Bacde, Tracker, killed Night One

AngryPidgeon, Mafioso,

killed Night One

Also I found this gem from that game >.>

Shit in drunk. . Lynch kcudz, hes maf. Bacde, babe, roll with me on this. Im 95% sie its kcudz.

[AngryPidgeon]

ap are you a child?

No? why?

[Breakfast With Sandy]

And making plans as scum beyond a day or 2 out is silly because of course things will go unexpectedly. At ffery: the direction is pretty much mastin getting lynched. There has been no other direction.

my vote sometimes has electromagnetic effects.

makes me cautious about using it.

which is to say I think that beli and I could probably break that wagon if we had a better idea where we should vote. And since we've grown less comfortable about voting Mastin we're struggling with what next and if it makes sense to eventually put our vote there with misgivings.

So, you are basically saying that you could lead a counterwagon to Mastin if you want but aren't sure if you want to?

correct.

If he's scum, you probably could. That's part of the reason I am still scumreading Rancid is that their wagon was harder to push despite a more prolonged and sustained push than counterwagons like Orc and I think scum would want to push the wagon that is not on them.

Timing mattered. So did a divided town. wagons are sometimes more volatile near deadline.

Who were the scum pushing the orci wagon?

[Titan]

The central core as I see it are: Mastin, AP, desbro, you, stalin with a little pie and me added in for flavor.

The periphery is everyone else.

If Mastin flipped town my reads on desbro, nacho, pie and maybe you might feel in flux. That might be because of neighborhood, but I would be looking at all of you cross-eyed trying to figure out which one of you were scum pulling everyone's strings.

How do you feel AP fits into this? Do you have a read on him now?

I don't know. I don't have a town read on him. The only thing I do think is that his role could be town, but cabd!game.

I have no idea whatsoever how to read AP. How is desp/bro reading him?

[Breakfast With Sandy]

I think bro is townreading him. bro talked me out of my vote over AP's claims

[Titan]

[Breakfast With Sandy]

ORCINUS

[orcinus_theoriginal]

what dude im studying

[AngryPidgeon]

I think ffery might be scum :/

[Titan]

[Breakfast With Sandy]

what dude im studying

Are there any restrictions on your govern role?

[AngryPidgeon]

Hey I already posted that at Clyton earlier :p

[orcinus_theoriginal]

I think ffery might be scum :/

tell me things

pedit d1 only

[Breakfast With Sandy]

I think ffery might be scum :/

I'm finally breaking out of brainfreeze and you're scumreading me NOW?

[Breakfast With Sandy]

I think ffery might be scum :/

tell me things

pedit d1 only

k.

then I'm totally onboard with beli

[Titan]

Hey you know what? You should re-sing this song as Psycho Kitty...

[CarbonFiber]

Timing mattered. So did a divided town. wagons are sometimes more volatile near deadline.

Who were the scum pushing the orci wagon?

If I am right about Mastin/Rancid/AP being scum, then they are the scum that helped derail the wagon and were happy to "work" with townies who wanted a different wagon, not so much in the way of votes but more of influencing the direction of the lynch with their voice. This makes any counterwagon much easier to push than Rancid themselves. Not that they pushed Orc in particular but helped push those multiple other wagons along with you and Nacho. In that way, forming a counterwagon is obviously easy. And it will be easy today (for you or anyone else) to form a counterwagon to Mastin at deadline depending on who the target is.

I think it has to do with players like Mastin or Rancid being active and polarizing that people form strong opinions on them. If enough people read them as hard town (which hapenned with Rancid), even if a bunch of people read them as hard scum, they will be difficult to lynch because the people strong-townreading them would go for

any

wagon that is not them with the intention of saving them as opposed to pushing a particular lynch of their choice. It can be advantageous as scum to be polarizing as opposed to being universally townread and Rancid certainly were. I think it is possible for town to be polarizing figures. I just don't know if that is the case here.

Do you think the nature of how the wagon formed says anything about Rancid's alignment?