I'm finally breaking out of brainfreeze and you're scumreading me NOW?
You are breaking out of brain freeze? IDK why are you trusting BRO's read on me? Or is it just his comment about my gambit?
It just felt ridiculously hedgy when you quoted me and said I didnt call Nacho scum in that sentence when... I've been mostly calling them scummy all game.
In post 4616, Titan wrote:The central core as I see it are: Mastin, AP, desbro, you, stalin with a little pie and me added in for flavor.
The periphery is everyone else.
If Mastin flipped town my reads on desbro, nacho, pie and maybe you might feel in flux. That might be because of neighborhood, but I would be looking at all of you cross-eyed trying to figure out which one of you were scum pulling everyone's strings.
How do you feel AP fits into this? Do you have a read on him now?
I don't know. I don't have a town read on him. The only thing I do think is that his role could be town, but cabd!game.
I have no idea whatsoever how to read AP. How is desp/bro reading him?
In post 4635, Breakfast With Sandy wrote:Timing mattered. So did a divided town. wagons are sometimes more volatile near deadline.
Who were the scum pushing the orci wagon?
If I am right about Mastin/Rancid/AP being scum, then they are the scum that helped derail the wagon and were happy to "work" with townies who wanted a different wagon, not so much in the way of votes but more of influencing the direction of the lynch with their voice. This makes any counterwagon much easier to push than Rancid themselves. Not that they pushed Orc in particular but helped push those multiple other wagons along with you and Nacho. In that way, forming a counterwagon is obviously easy. And it will be easy today (for you or anyone else) to form a counterwagon to Mastin at deadline depending on who the target is.
I think it has to do with players like Mastin or Rancid being active and polarizing that people form strong opinions on them. If enough people read them as hard town (which hapenned with Rancid), even if a bunch of people read them as hard scum, they will be difficult to lynch because the people strong-townreading them would go for
any
wagon that is not them with the intention of saving them as opposed to pushing a particular lynch of their choice. It can be advantageous as scum to be polarizing as opposed to being universally townread and Rancid certainly were. I think it is possible for town to be polarizing figures. I just don't know if that is the case here.
Do you think the nature of how the wagon formed says anything about Rancid's alignment?
What you're saying is counter to everything about how Nati plays as scum. zmuffin was in there, and he's not afraid at all to be abrasive as scum. But, it's more of a feature in his town game.
I think that assuming a wagon that doesn't form easily is a wagon on scum is a dangerous assumption.
User formerly known as Sc*mf*ck.
Hydra of fferylt and Belisarius; clever signature line to be decided later
I may be hasty. The reason beli elevated you to untouchable townread had to do with what your role would mean in the hands of scum. Only being able to use it on day 1 negates some of that argument.
User formerly known as Sc*mf*ck.
Hydra of fferylt and Belisarius; clever signature line to be decided later
I'm (Arthur) the wall. Don't let Tammy fool you. She trolls you w/o you even knowing! It's like you're in a constant state on mindfuck. RUN WHILE YOU CAN.
If I am right about Mastin/Rancid/AP being scum, then they are the scum that helped derail the wagon and were happy to "work" with townies who wanted a different wagon, not so much in the way of votes but more of influencing the direction of the lynch with their voice. This makes any counterwagon much easier to push than Rancid themselves. Not that they pushed Orc in particular but helped push those multiple other wagons along with you and Nacho. In that way, forming a counterwagon is obviously easy. And it will be easy today (for you or anyone else) to form a counterwagon to Mastin at deadline depending on who the target is.
Except Mastin and RBD were BOTH trying to get me lynched so this point is just weird.
I may be hasty. The reason beli elevated you to untouchable townread had to do with what your role would mean in the hands of scum. Only being able to use it on day 1 negates some of that argument.
sorry, what?
revealing that my role is only usable on day 1 makes me more likely to be scum, if we were just basing on role
also mara's replacing in with me
We are lazy people on an adventure, flirting with life but too shy to go all the way.
I'm (Arthur) the wall. Don't let Tammy fool you. She trolls you w/o you even knowing! It's like you're in a constant state on mindfuck. RUN WHILE YOU CAN.
I'm (Arthur) the wall. Don't let Tammy fool you. She trolls you w/o you even knowing! It's like you're in a constant state on mindfuck. RUN WHILE YOU CAN.
I'm finally breaking out of brainfreeze and you're scumreading me NOW?
You are breaking out of brain freeze? IDK why are you trusting BRO's read on me? Or is it just his comment about my gambit?
I'm trusting his logic not his read. And I'm trusting the logic solely regarding your gambit not starting off as a scum-mistake. You're still in my maybe-scum pile.
It just felt ridiculously hedgy when you quoted me and said I didnt call Nacho scum in that sentence when... I've been mostly calling them scummy all game.
Ok.
Amid the pressure of great events, a general principle gives no help.
On the path to becoming yourself, you'll need to choose alignment over validation from others, peace over addictive chaos, and being misunderstood over false acceptance. --TheHolisticPsychologist
In post 4653, Breakfast With Sandy wrote:I think that assuming a wagon that doesn't form easily is a wagon on scum is a dangerous assumption.
I know but I wasn't saying that in a vacuum but considering the circumstances.
In post 4656, AngryPidgeon wrote:Except Mastin and RBD were BOTH trying to get me lynched so this point is just weird.
I didn't get the feeling that they genuinely wanted you lynched but that's debatable.
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I just felt like the general idea being pushed that there is no direction besides Mastin's lynch was a bit inaccurate. It is actually too easy to push in a different direction.
I'm (Arthur) the wall. Don't let Tammy fool you. She trolls you w/o you even knowing! It's like you're in a constant state on mindfuck. RUN WHILE YOU CAN.
Like it's no secret I don't play with Ms. Marangal.
But whatever.
Good luck town.
Half troll/Half wall.
I'm (Arthur) the wall. Don't let Tammy fool you. She trolls you w/o you even knowing! It's like you're in a constant state on mindfuck. RUN WHILE YOU CAN.
I mean, unless you don't mind working and talking to me. I would like to do that, since orci-town read on you guys gave me a chance to not not let my paranoia drive me to scum-read your slot, and figure out where/why I town-read you as scum, and scum-read you as town and pick up your town-markers